Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 14:04

Post #1126 of 1144 (487 views)

But that doesn’t make any sense. We know that cohen lied. The defense hasn’t really provided any information as to why all the documentation of the bills / cohens testimony / hicks testimony / etc. is wrong.//

All I have to say is "If the glove dont fit, you must acquit". They are playing to one juror, and one only at this point..Feels like they may have got one too...

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [monty] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 14:31

Post #1127 of 1144 (445 views)

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [JFHJR] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 14:38

Post #1128 of 1144 (427 views)

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

Wow, that sounds huge.

Sounds like it may have been a bad mistake to build your case around a convicted, lying pos in Cohen.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [JFHJR] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 14:40

Post #1129 of 1144 (426 views)

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

What “paper” are you referring to? I don’t think there is any doubt that Trump wrote the checks to Cohen, which is 1/3d of the allegedly false business records. I agree that Cohen is an important witness but he is not the only link between Trump and the false business records.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [SDG] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 14:52

Post #1130 of 1144 (407 views)

Maybe for another 2 million wesselberg will take the fall, get him up in the bullpen.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [tyrod1] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 14:54

Post #1131 of 1144 (402 views)

tyrod1 wrote:

Maybe for another 2 million wesselberg will take the fall, get him up in the bullpen.

If people haven't learned by now it's not good to be a Trump friend or one of his employees, then they need to have their head examined.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [SDG] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 15:00

Post #1132 of 1144 (377 views)

SDG wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

Wow, that sounds huge.

Sounds like it may have been a bad mistake to build your case around a convicted, lying pos in Cohen.

A lot of criminals go free if that was the standard. Bad people surround themselves with liars and thieves. They don't hire honest people.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 15:03

Post #1133 of 1144 (370 views)

FishyJoe wrote:

SDG wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

Wow, that sounds huge.

Sounds like it may have been a bad mistake to build your case around a convicted, lying pos in Cohen.

A lot of criminals go free if that was the standard. Bad people surround themselves with liars and thieves. They don't hire honest people.

Probably why the DA needs to know how witnesses will come across and what they think a Jury will believe.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [ike] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 15:05

Post #1134 of 1144 (366 views)

ike wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

What “paper” are you referring to? I don’t think there is any doubt that Trump wrote the checks to Cohen, which is 1/3d of the allegedly false business records. I agree that Cohen is an important witness but he is not the only link between Trump and the false business records.

My understanding is Cohen is the only one who can tie Trump directly.

Think about it this way: If they had a direct connection, they'd never put a convicted liar on the stand.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [SDG] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 15:08

Post #1135 of 1144 (354 views)

SDG wrote:

FishyJoe wrote:

SDG wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

Wow, that sounds huge.

Sounds like it may have been a bad mistake to build your case around a convicted, lying pos in Cohen.

A lot of criminals go free if that was the standard. Bad people surround themselves with liars and thieves. They don't hire honest people.

Probably why the DA needs to know how witnesses will come across and what they think a Jury will believe.

Yup, OJ agrees posthumously.

Last edited by: FishyJoe: May 16, 24 15:09

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [JFHJR] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 16:22

Post #1136 of 1144 (291 views)

I think they got him this time. No, really.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [JFHJR] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 16:34

Post #1137 of 1144 (266 views)

JFHJR wrote:

ike wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

What “paper” are you referring to? I don’t think there is any doubt that Trump wrote the checks to Cohen, which is 1/3d of the allegedly false business records. I agree that Cohen is an important witness but he is not the only link between Trump and the false business records.

My understanding is Cohen is the only one who can tie Trump directly.

Think about it this way: If they had a direct connection, they'd never put a convicted liar on the stand.

“Tie Trump directly” to what? To the scheme to kill bad stories before election? Pecker testified extensively about Trump’s role in that.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [ike] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 17:05

Post #1138 of 1144 (245 views)

I wonder if anyone has ever been convicted on circumstantial evidence?

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [tyrod1] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 17:21

Post #1139 of 1144 (227 views)

tyrod1 wrote:

I wonder if anyone has ever been convicted on circumstantial evidence?

I hope so. It’s often a lot better than eyewitness testimony!

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [tyrod1] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 18:10

Post #1140 of 1144 (178 views)

tyrod1 wrote:

I wonder if anyone has ever been convicted on circumstantial evidence?

Lots of people. There is another case in the recent threads.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [tyrod1] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 19:44

Post #1141 of 1144 (130 views)

Most cases are won based on circumstantial evidence. Someone is seen fleeing a crime scene, finger prints at the crime scene, cell phone location data, etc.

You hardly ever have a video of the guy in the act.

What is going to destroy trump in this case is that he said it wasn’t a reimbursement - evidence of him saying it was. Trump said he didn’t know of agreement - there are multiple people saying he did. Trump said there was no sex - lots of details about this.

It may come down to going to 1 juror believes that trump didn’t know about the agreement that he is recorded on audio tape knowing about - and has admitted there is an NDA on. It would be like someone saying they were never at the 7-11 on main, and there is video of them leaving the store at that time.

Last edited by: sosayusall: May 16, 24 19:57

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [ike] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 20:01

Post #1142 of 1144 (106 views)

ike wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

ike wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

What “paper” are you referring to? I don’t think there is any doubt that Trump wrote the checks to Cohen, which is 1/3d of the allegedly false business records. I agree that Cohen is an important witness but he is not the only link between Trump and the false business records.

My understanding is Cohen is the only one who can tie Trump directly.

Think about it this way: If they had a direct connection, they'd never put a convicted liar on the stand.

“Tie Trump directly” to what? To the scheme to kill bad stories before election? Pecker testified extensively about Trump’s role in that.

That's not what he's on trial for.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [Tylertri] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 20:02

Post #1143 of 1144 (105 views)

Tylertri wrote:

I think they got him this time. No, really.

RIP Apollo.

Re: Trump Hush Money Trail [JFHJR] [ In reply to ]

May 16, 24 20:47

Post #1144 of 1144 (76 views)

JFHJR wrote:

ike wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

ike wrote:

JFHJR wrote:

monty wrote:

Listening to the talking head on the way home from swimming, it appears that the defense had their gotcha moment with Cohen. But after listening to what it was, seemed trivial to me. But they only have to get one juror to think it is something more, and it will be couched as 100% vindication!!!

IT was something to the effect that on that 90 second phone call where the talked about Stormy, that they also talked about a 14 year old who was stalking Cohen. Apparently that was not disclosed before, the part with the teenager. SO they asked Cohen if they talked about that, and he said yes, as well as the other thing..

So they will run with this and try and get someone to believe it was all about the kid, and not about Stormy and the money paid out. Even though every single witness before this corroborates this exact scenario.. But Cohen is a lying piece of shit, so even when telling the truth, hard to get him to be a witness with any creditability. Which is always the. case in criminal trials, you often have to use criminals to get other criminals...

Trump is pumping his fist, thinks he just won this thing, which in his eyes, he well may have. Just needs one juror...

If you weren't listening in real time, you should find a source that's reliable to read about it. It was much worse than your summary.

Cohen is the only connection between the "paper" and Trump. If they can't connect Trump to the paper, they have a problem.

Today, they painted Cohen as a liar, yes, but also a liar who would (and has) benefited from the lie, and one who was bent on revenge.

The call where Cohen linked Trump to the paper, turns out was possibly Cohen calling Trump's security about a 14-year-old who was cranking Cohen. There were text messages leading up to the phone call. The defense showed it's reasonable to assume the call (which lasted 92 seconds) was about the 14-year-old and not the Stormy stuff. And that Cohen is lying that he spoke about the Stormy stuff. Apparently, this is the first time the 14-year-old has been mentioned at all. If this was the case, the prosecution really should have introduced the dual reason for the call. Now, they'll have to do it on redirect and it'll just look like he's lying because the defense caught him in a story.

I suspect today they got all the jurors.

What “paper” are you referring to? I don’t think there is any doubt that Trump wrote the checks to Cohen, which is 1/3d of the allegedly false business records. I agree that Cohen is an important witness but he is not the only link between Trump and the false business records.

My understanding is Cohen is the only one who can tie Trump directly.

Think about it this way: If they had a direct connection, they'd never put a convicted liar on the stand.

“Tie Trump directly” to what? To the scheme to kill bad stories before election? Pecker testified extensively about Trump’s role in that.

That's not what he's on trial for.

Actually, it is a very important part of what he is on trial for. Motive matters in most criminal cases, including this one. That is partly why the prosecution opened with Pecker. The fact that the payments were for campaign purposes, and not primarily for personal purposes, has been one of the key issues in the case.

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