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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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Let's be serious for just a minute. Impeachment of anyone is meaningless and no one cares. Be it a Dem or a Repub, we all know it's a political exercise to try and embarrass folks you don't' like. Be it Trump two times or Schipp or Mayorkas.

They should do away with impeachment all together and instead just call each other names for a few minutes and be done with it. About as impactful.


This, if I've learned one thing from Trump it's impeachment means nothing, just a waste of time and tax payer money.
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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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SDG wrote:
Let's be serious for just a minute. Impeachment of anyone is meaningless and no one cares. Be it a Dem or a Repub, we all know it's a political exercise to try and embarrass folks you don't' like. Be it Trump two times or Schipp or Mayorkas.

They should do away with impeachment all together and instead just call each other names for a few minutes and be done with it. About as impactful.

Wait, I thought you said you'd be serious for a minute.
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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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SDG wrote:
Let's be serious for just a minute. Impeachment of anyone is meaningless and no one cares. Be it a Dem or a Repub, we all know it's a political exercise to try and embarrass folks you don't' like. Be it Trump two times or Schipp or Mayorkas.

They should do away with impeachment all together and instead just call each other names for a few minutes and be done with it. About as impactful.

Let's be serious for a minute. This is a direct result of the Republican party treating impeachment with a lack of seriousness.

Impeachment or threat of impeachment has historically been a serious thing and based on actual offenses, frequently with real consequences. Federal officials including Presidents, Senators, Cabinet officials, and judges have been impeached for graft, corruption, conspiracy to aid a foreign power, political bias in judicial rulings, abuse of power, supporting insurrection and secession, tax evasion, perjury, sexual assault, obstruction, and of course incitement to insurrection, and obstruction of Congress. Of the 22 federal officials who have actually been impeached, 13 were either convicted or resigned as a result. It has typically not really been a tit for tat political tool, except now with the Republican House that couldn't legislate itself out of a paper bag because it's too busy running revenge errands for Donald Trump..

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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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SDG wrote:
Let's be serious for just a minute. Impeachment of anyone is meaningless and no one cares. Be it a Dem or a Repub, we all know it's a political exercise to try and embarrass folks you don't' like. Be it Trump two times or Schipp or Mayorkas.

They should do away with impeachment all together and instead just call each other names for a few minutes and be done with it. About as impactful.

This right here is the exact dangerous outcome the people that want unaccountability want.

SDG and the GOP want impeachment to be meaningless. They don’t want that check on the executive branch. They know that a GOP president will do things that warrant impeachment, so they want impeachment to lose its power.

Sadly are succeeding and it is very bad for our country.
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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [SDG] [ In reply to ]
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SDG wrote:
Let's be serious for just a minute. Impeachment of anyone is meaningless and no one cares. Be it a Dem or a Repub, we all know it's a political exercise to try and embarrass folks you don't' like. Be it Trump two times or Schipp or Mayorkas.

They should do away with impeachment all together and instead just call each other names for a few minutes and be done with it. About as impactful.

I'm old enough to remember when impeachment actually meant something to Republicans, who pointed to it as a mark of shame.

If I'm remembering correctly, it was known as "The Clinton Years".
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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [WelshinPhilly] [ In reply to ]
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WelshinPhilly wrote:
I'm old enough to remember when impeachment actually meant something to Republicans, who pointed to it as a mark of shame.

If I'm remembering correctly, it was known as "The Clinton Years".

Don't forget the lesson we learned with Clinton: Character Matters.
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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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slowguy wrote:
SDG wrote:
Let's be serious for just a minute. Impeachment of anyone is meaningless and no one cares. Be it a Dem or a Repub, we all know it's a political exercise to try and embarrass folks you don't' like. Be it Trump two times or Schipp or Mayorkas.

They should do away with impeachment all together and instead just call each other names for a few minutes and be done with it. About as impactful.


Let's be serious for a minute. This is a direct result of the Republican party treating impeachment with a lack of seriousness.

Impeachment or threat of impeachment has historically been a serious thing and based on actual offenses, frequently with real consequences. Federal officials including Presidents, Senators, Cabinet officials, and judges have been impeached for graft, corruption, conspiracy to aid a foreign power, political bias in judicial rulings, abuse of power, supporting insurrection and secession, tax evasion, perjury, sexual assault, obstruction, and of course incitement to insurrection, and obstruction of Congress. Of the 22 federal officials who have actually been impeached, 13 were either convicted or resigned as a result. It has typically not really been a tit for tat political tool, except now with the Republican House that couldn't legislate itself out of a paper bag because it's too busy running revenge errands for Donald Trump..

To be clear, it's an attempt by the Republican party to devalue impeachment. Trump was impeached twice. While there may be grounds to argue that the first impeachment didn't rise to the level of what should be an impeachable offense and, in the second case, there wasn't enough evidence yet or that it shouldn't have happened given the timing, there were still colorable claims of impeachable offenses. With Mayorkas, it's about policy disagreements. Rs know that the Mayorkas impeachment will go nowhere and that it will be considered purely partisan policitcs. But they think it will give them the ability to characterize the Trump impeachments as purely partisan in nature.

In their minds, if impeachment means everything, it means nothing.
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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [RogerC39] [ In reply to ]
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To be clear, it's an attempt by the Republican party to devalue impeachment

Impeachment has been a joke since Clinton. It's the appearances that matter, not the actual crime. Try to keep up.
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Re: Sec Mayorkas impeached [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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It will always be interesting to me that Republicans are:
1) arguing for no oversight for the executive branch (impeachment is dumb/there shouldnt be criminal prosecutions for politicians),
2) while also arguing Biden administration should be impeached for "looking shady."

- all that removing accountability for politicians does is allow bad actors to do bad things. If people want to bring forward dumb impeachments, let them - and they should be called out for bringing forward dumb impeachments.
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