Most of these are placebo products only having .00000001% of the ingredient used with the stated effects in studies

PEDs are performance enhancing drugs.

These products are neither performance enhancing nor drugs.

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Tree bark? This is the first time I hear about this, so I had to google this thing.

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Just watched KB's latest video, which was in-part an unscientific advert for pinus pinaster. (The whole video was pretty unscientific, though I guess you can't expect them to give away too much data. However, revealing a financial interest in the product you're touting might be nice.)

That said, it looks like the active ingredient (extract from the bark of a French pine species) has some research to back it, going back several decades. For example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...articles/PMC3203267/. I'd be open to trying it. For me, the distinction between an illegal performance enhancing drug and a legal performance enhancing substance should be based on safety, availability to all athletes (and this includes being available at a reasonable price), and research to support efficacy and negligible health risks.

I'll just go with the caterpillar fungus Coach Ma's runners used, or just wait for cancer to transform my body to TdF winning potential.