Bare posted a video saying he pretty much was fully recovered from the marathon immediately after, and could have gone for a run the next day. Any guesses what cycle he's on?

It's not the drugs but the shoes. My buddy ran 2:38 at this race and 5 days later 5mi tempo @ 5:40 pace. Also others in Strava I follow similar.

You guys need to make up your mind. I just bought super shoes based off his reply but now cancelled the order based off yours. Can I hold a 6' mile for a marathon with them or not?

It's not the drugs but the shoes. My buddy ran 2:38 at this race and 5 days later 5mi tempo @ 5:40 pace. Also others in Strava I follow similar.

I'll just leave it with a quote by Des Linden about super shoes "they make a marathon feel like a 22 mile run"

I watch some of Nick's videos-- he used to be local to me living just north of Austin which is why I think he showed up in my Youtube feed. When he was here and still doing tri training videos I would try and goad him into the SwimRun race here by commenting on his Youtube but it didn't work.

monty wrote:

I’ve done a lot of racing over the years, and I think I can say that the number of times I’ve finished a race and said “I paced that great” is maybe once. A 5k. Half Ironmans, half marathons, marathons, Ironmans, etc. never done a great job. But that ONE 5k, ha! //

I hear you brother, I have blown up and limped in more times than I can count. Maybe out of the 1000+ Multisport races I have done, I paced it perfect maybe 30 times. But I do have to say that if I had this little watch that I wear on my wrist now everyday, I would have done much better in a lot of those races, especially the running ones. I would say about 5% of the old time running races had accurate mile markers, so forget about checking your pace, and when we did finally have HR monitors, it took awhile to figure them out and how to use them on racedays...My little 6 week 40mpw marathon experiment during the beginning of the Tri season might have been just a wee bit faster. But looking back I'm kind of glad I had no information other than how I felt, and running with a pack of old dudes that passed me at mile 10 doing 5;40 pace. Nick ran a great even race, the kind to be proud of for sure. But when you look at all those even splits, could he have gone faster and still held on? That was the question we got to ask over and over of ourselves in those old days, and it usually got answered on the race course. I went from a 2;32 pace at mile 24, to finishing in a 2;36. Yes the 40mpw was problematic, but I got to answer that question and was quite happy later that I did.


The new tech is great and has advanced the sport and times tremendously. But sometimes I really enjoy watching someone race old school, throw it all out the window, and just race the racers. It mostly happens in ITU these days, no time to check the stats, just hang until you can't anymore, and let the chips fall where the fall...Ha! another ST tangent and not one mention of, well you know who....(-;

I have a good friend who worships this guy. I think Nick is a good athlete, but I have to also wonder if he is aware of the disservice he is doing. My friend has an athletic background, is very fit, but it’s mostly gym muscle. Nick has given him a false hope, that he can also be a respectably performing endurance athlete. I’ve never seen anyone work so hard, and keep coming up short. DNF’s at Ironman (he did get one finish just under cut-off) and marathons. He doesn’t want to loose his muscle and strength. He puts in the miles and long runs etc, but it just isn’t working. I’ve preached about serving two masters, and all that crap, and have tried to convince him that he could loose 40 pounds and run like the wind… but very often his reply has been yeah but Nick …. Lalalalalala….😵‍💫. Last month I tried to pace him to a marathon PR. His training was impressive, and I thought he had a chance. But it really hurt, seeing this big guy struggling so bad at race pace, and dropping out at the half. Even after the race it was yeah but Nick….. and I was like fuck Nick, if he was there I would have punched him in the face. Well ok, maybe not, the dude could bench press my skinny ass to moon. But, my friend is clean as a whistle, and this whole Nick Bare thing has only set him up for repeated disappointment.

I'm also skeptical, but that's not founded in anything other than my gut feeling.