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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks everyone, It was water finish. There were wetsuit and non-wetsuit divisions. I wore a wetsuit, the water temp was 71 degrees. The event, evenly split the field into 5 five waves slowest to fastest based upon your estimated finish time, with 3 minutes between waves. I erred on the conservative side, and started in the 3rd wave, which I left behind. I never saw some of the people that finished in front of me.

With this distance, once I stood up it was very disorienting. All in all, its good to be back ( I am back doing Triathlons too) Next summer I will have to travel to do some of the classic California Ocean Open Water Swims..



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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [jorgegr] [ In reply to ]
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how do you post pics? I have some from my race last weekend

yesterday 9.4 mi run w/ 11 km @ 8:49/mi and 1.5 mi @ 8:41/mi
today 5775 yd swim and rotator cuff strength

500 swim + 50 kick
5 x (200 fast, 50 kick) 2:34, 30, 28, 29, 29
450 swim + 50 kick
5 x (100 fast, 50 kick) 1:12, 12, 12, 13, 12
400 swim + 50 kick
5 x (200 fast, 50 kick) 2:30, 28, 29, 30, 30
350 swim + 50 kick
300 swim + 50 kick
250 odd 50s scull evens fly kick
25 kick c/d

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [jorgegr] [ In reply to ]
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You sandbagger!! You missed out on getting a good draft going in that 3rd wave, but crushed your time anyway. And I can't believe it was 71 degrees up there, I'm doing a couple races this weekend in Santa Cruz and it is 55 degrees right now!! And as it stands, I'm going to try and go no wetsuit, but will see after the mile race the first day if I can handle 2.5 the next day..

With that in mind, my sea level pool was 86+ today, and it was 103 and super humid outside. Needless to say it was miserable, and all paces and times had to be adjusted:

5x100s@1;40(1;30 to 1;18)
3x(100IM kick@2;30/2x50fly@1;00) kicks(1;56's) fly(40/40/39/40/38/39)
3x(100frog kick@2;30)2x50back@1;00) kicks(1;49/47/46)back(44/44/42/42/42/41)
2x(3x100p@1;30/2x100frog@2;30) pulls(1;15/14/12/14/13/10) kicks(1;48/44)
6x50@1;00 as 3 buoy(39/37/36)3 breast(47/46/43
3000SCY in 60 minutes
Last edited by: monty: Jul 24, 22 9:07
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Having just swam in upper-50's F water last week, I think you are crazy to go no wetsuit. I assume they can't prevent us from warming up and getting acclimated, but I know we'll be starting from the beach so that first dive in will be a shock no matter what. Might be able to crank hard enough on the mile swim, but I think it's going to be miserable in that temp at 2.5mile pace.

Friday Swim:
12x200 on 2:40 cruising, trying to get open water pacing nailed down. Started at 2:17's and ended up around 2:13
10x50 ~500 pace on :45. All 29.0-30.0

4000 scy total. Had a 4.25mi run earlier in the day.

Sunday:
Went to Barton springs to see if I can tolerate a full sleeve wetsuit. I guess I can but I don't like it. Plan on going sleeveless, but I feel like I have to at least bring the full sleeve in case the water is even colder. Might bring the Ark arm sleeves and use them with the sleeveless wetsuit, but that might be against the rules. Only about 1200m as I really don't enjoy dodging people that much. About 1:15-1:20 pace (/100y).
+7.5mi run

Monday, back in the hot pool:
700 warmup
2 each 500/400/300/200/100. First rep swim, second pull. Trying not to go too hard, just solid upper aerobic effort. Avg about 1:08ish pace on the swims, 1:04ish pace on the pull.

3800scy total. Will try to get in a short run this afternoon.

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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Su - 9500yd OW swim in 2:30
Did three laps around a small island in the local lake with two friends. Wore wetsuit (with sleeves) even though the water wasn't very cool, air temps 86F by the end. I'm counting this as my over distance swim of the IM build up. Dehydrated and malnutritioned 7 mile run right after. Will try to do 1-2 open water swims here in the next 6 weeks but probably more like 6500yd.

'22 IMMD, '23 SwimRun MD
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Yesterday 10.2 mi moderate. 1 mi walk, lower body strength
Today 4575 yd swim, under caloried I think

500 sw 50 k
5 x (200 fast, 50 kick) 232, 30, 29 29 29
500 sw 50 k
5 x (100 fast, 50 k) 1:12s
500 sw 50 k
5 x (100 fast, 50 kick) 1:13s
50 scull 25 k

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Tu 3500 SCY via
2x500 (7:20 7:16)
5x200 on 3:00 (2:46 :47 :48 :50 :46)
5x100 on 1:40 (1:22 :23 :20 :19 :19)
2x500 ez (7:31 8:13)

Kept it easy today as I'm still pretty sore

'22 IMMD, '23 SwimRun MD
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [RunnerSam] [ In reply to ]
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Reading about all the OW swims going on north hemisphere is getting me pumped for ow season down under

My lungs smashed yesterday and today after chlorine way way too high yesterday so a bit of a shorter one today, but with some pace work

300 easy

12x100 on 140 focussing on trying to keep light / tight consistent kick and hold stroke (112 fastest (last one) and avg 114).

Snorkel and paddles freestyle - 6 x 50 easy

2 x 50 fast around 31, 30 with 50 easy in between

200 easy
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [waverider101] [ In reply to ]
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I have two OW races this weekend, but still looks like mid 50's for water temp, so feeling a little apprehensive about them. Day before I have a pool race, masters pacific champs 400IM, and dreading that one too!!! SO got in the 86 degree pool today for my last swim, then two day taper to try and be somewhat fresh for the 3 days of racing. Ramped down the pace to try and not get so flogged as I did last time, so far so good:

3x100s@1;40(1;30/28/24)3x100IM kick@2;10(1;58/54/51)
4x500pull@6;40 descend(6;32/26/20/13)4x100IM kick@2;10(1;59/54/50/46)
10x50@1;00as 4buoy(39/38/37/36)2back(46/42)3buoy(39/38/35)
3450SCY in 56 minutes
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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11.58 mi yesterday w 9 mi at 834
4725 yds today w 5 x 200 2:31-2:29 and 11 x 100 1:13-14
It wasn’t a great workout so that is all I care to say

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
disclaimer: PhD not MD
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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mid 50s... would be surprised if they let people swim from a risk perspective without wetties in the mid 50s....! I'd be wearing a wetsuit and as many caps as I could put on my head

enjoy!
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [waverider101] [ In reply to ]
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9.8 mi easy yesterday
Today 4325 yds, 2.3 mi easy run

2 x (500 sw 50 k)
2 x (100 fast 50 k) 1:13, 12
2 x (450 sw 50 k)
2 x (100 fast 50k) 1:12s
2 x (400 sw 50 k)
2 x (100 fast 50 k) 1:13, 12
350 sw 75 k

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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If you want to post pics, you can try the following.

Note: your picture size needs to be resized and made small. An image straight from your camera will not work.

1. On the toolbar click "Insert Image"


2. Select File, and then click choose. Select the image that you want to load


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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Ouch! mid 50's with no wetsuit! I have noticed the older I get the less tolerance I have for cold! Maybe I am just getting wimpy!

-George
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [jorgegr] [ In reply to ]
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thanks!

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
disclaimer: PhD not MD
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:
I have two OW races this weekend, but still looks like mid 50's for water temp, so feeling a little apprehensive about them. Day before I have a pool race, masters pacific champs 400IM, and dreading that one too!!! SO got in the 86 degree pool today for my last swim, then two day taper to try and be somewhat fresh for the 3 days of racing. Ramped down the pace to try and not get so flogged as I did last time, so far so good:

3x100s @ 1;40(1;30/28/24) | 3x100IM kick @ 2;10(1;58/54/51)
4x500pull @ 6;40 descend(6;32/26/20/13) | 4x100IM kick @ 2;10(1;59/54/50/46)
10x50 @ 1;00 as 4buoy(39/38/37/36) 2back(46/42) 3buoy(39/38/35)
3450SCY in 56 minutes

looking fwd to the race reports
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [monty] [ In reply to ]
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How you doing racing, Monty?
6.5 mi easy run yesterday
Today… 6475 yds, little stiff, 100s 1:13s mostly some 12s, marked anything higher . That is the longest swim I have done in awhile.

500 sw 50k
2 x(100 fast, 50k)
450 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast, 50k)
400 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast, 50k)
350 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast, 50k)
300 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast, 50 k)
250 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast, 50k)
200 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast 50k)
150 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast 50 k) 1:14 bc cramp, 1:13
100 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast 50k) 1:14, 1:12
50 sw 50 k
2 x (100 fast, 50k) 1:14, 1:13
200 sw, 25 kick cd

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [jorgegr] [ In reply to ]
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the above is what I got when I tried to post a photo. Any ideas?

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Dr. Tigerchik wrote:
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the above is what I got when I tried to post a photo. Any ideas?

did you resize to make it less than 250kb? seems this forum is a bit out of date when it comes to pics 😬
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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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results:
1 mile swim
2.5mile swim

I'll let monty speak for his own races, but mine went well. I won the wetsuit division of both races. For the 1-mile swim, I basically tied the other winner from the non-wetsuit division, because he hugged the wharf on the second half instead of taking the straight line like I did (he was also wearing a long pants tech suit, so while that is likely FINA-legal open water gear, it would not be pool legal). I probably shouldn't have run 5 mile miles before the race. Water was 61F, so cold but not unbearably so. I was glad I was in a sleeveless wetsuit.

For the 2.5mile swim, we had some delays due to a late boat and the fog. I actually had to go check out of my hotel before the race to not miss the 11am checkout time. Luckily I was able to leave my bag at the hotel during the race, and they were nice enough to let me shower when I showed up to get it back. I'll paste a picture of the planned race course below and what I actually swam, because the boat went to the wrong spot. On the way back there were actually 3 boats, and from what I hear a lot of swimmers started going to the wrong (closer) boats instead of the actual course marker. I let the 1-mile winner go on this race after 500m, as I have no way to know how well to pace myself on the edge for this long of a swim. Instead I chose go easy until the last 1k, then build, so it was a lonely day for me. Ended up 3rd overall. Water was a couple degrees colder for this one and a little more swell but nothing strong enough to make you seasick or anything (it was actually choppier in my lake swim in Boerne back in May).

Splits by 500y:
5:46
6:02
6:13
6:30
6:05
6:17
6:03
6:08
+26s -- watch measured 4049 yards, it's probably a bit off. short run up the shore to the finish.

Local paper story: https://www.santacruzsentinel.com/2022/07/31/trevor-gillis-valerie-thorp-swim-to-cruz-cruise-titles-open-water-swimming/

Planned race course (2.5mi):

Actual race course:


Here was the one mile course the day before. No marker buoys, just out and around the wharf then straight to the finish. Hugging right against the wharf meant doing extra yardage.



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Re: July Fish Thread (guppies welcome) [Optimal_Adrian] [ In reply to ]
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nice job and congrats on the win!

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