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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [Justgeorge] [ In reply to ]
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There may be some small component that is physical, maybe a constricted airway or some-such, but it is mostly a mental issue. I frequently deal with people who have similar issues, and I expect you will disagree with this, as most of them do.

"I keep hoping for you to use your superior intellect to be less insufferable. Sadly, you continue to disappoint." - gofigure
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [sonofdad] [ In reply to ]
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sonofdad wrote:
There may be some small component that is physical, maybe a constricted airway or some-such, but it is mostly a mental issue. I frequently deal with people who have similar issues, and I expect you will disagree with this, as most of them do.

Especially since the gag reflex is something triggered by contact with the roof of your mouth, back of the throat or tongue near the tonsils. If a mask is triggering a gag reflex, he's wearing it wrong.

Slowguy

(insert pithy phrase here...)
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [Cavechild] [ In reply to ]
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Cavechild, is that really you, or did some Big Gubment Nanny State Leftist hijack your account? What about FREEEDOM!!?


Hey I'm just happy some of you liberal wing-nuts can actually agree with common sense. I'm sure it won't be too long before MSNBC and CNN tell you that someone can identify as vaccinated and you'll be up in arms about how Big-Pharma is making billions of dollars being anti-choice. But biology is like the Constitution. Fluid right? I'm guessing in the next year all the printing of money will give you a little insight into the science of economics.

Worth a read:

https://www.wired.com/...t-helped-covid-kill/

Explains some of the history of how aerosols were defined for infectious diseases, and how we erroneously settled on the 5 micron particle size.
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [Thom] [ In reply to ]
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [big bentley] [ In reply to ]
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big bentley wrote:

???

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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [Justgeorge] [ In reply to ]
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Justgeorge wrote:
cholla wrote:
Cavechild wrote:
Yet nothing is being done by the government to even slightly inconvenience people that are too hard-headed to get a free vaccine. It's fairly simple. Implement a national vaccine passport program where if you don't have one, you can't fly, stay in a hotel, eat in restaurant, shop in a store, go to school, go to a movie,...... If we did this and had it take effect this summer, we would be in the high 90% fully vaccinated rate very quickly.



This, 100%. Although I share the shock of others that realized we agree with YOU ;)


I know, we can have people get their vaccine Lot number tattooed onto their arms.

Wouldn't that be redundant? The implanted chip should already provide all the needed information on vaccine status.
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [cholla] [ In reply to ]
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cholla wrote:
Justgeorge wrote:
I know, we can have people get their vaccine Lot number tattooed onto their arms.


Wouldn't that be redundant? The implanted chip should already provide all the needed information on vaccine status.


Digital primary system with an Analog back up - sounds reasonable

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We went to the Trenton Punk Rock Flea Market yesterday - although it was outside, everyone was fully masked without a problem

"Isn't RandMart the old punk rock dude who had the crazy ex*? Then this post checks out"


* Not THIS ex, another one
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html

Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [g_lev] [ In reply to ]
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g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!

This is one of the stupidest things in a line of stupid things that people continue to clamor on about. Too many idiots out there who can't differentiate between "you don't have to" and "you shall not."

I hear all kinds of people claiming that continuing to wear a mask means you don't follow science because CDC says not to wear them anymore. Those people are pretty much all dumbasses.

Slowguy

(insert pithy phrase here...)
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [g_lev] [ In reply to ]
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g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html

Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!

I was the first to call it therefore all others are just building and expanding on my premise.
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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slowguy wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


This is one of the stupidest things in a line of stupid things that people continue to clamor on about. Too many idiots out there who can't differentiate between "you don't have to" and "you shall not."

I hear all kinds of people claiming that continuing to wear a mask means you don't follow science because CDC says not to wear them anymore. Those people are pretty much all dumbasses.

Not to mention their inability to know who has what authority to regulate. The CDC is a medical institution. They released a statement saying fully vaccinated people are neither at risk of contracting COVID (or at least a severe case), and are also not at risk for transmitting COVID. It's a purely scientific take on the situation. Hence why states still have mask mandates. It's not time to lift mandates yet because many people still haven't been vaccinated.

Then when many of us balked at the announcement, the antis claim it's because we suddenly don't trust the CDC. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's simply that it was made too early. And predictably the antis are taking it to mean the masking thing is over.

The announcement should have waited a few more weeks.

But now here we are... and hopefully this doesn't cause problems
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


I was the first to call it therefore all others are just building and expanding on my premise.

You win! Congrats!

Suffer Well.
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [g_lev] [ In reply to ]
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g_lev wrote:
slowguy wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


This is one of the stupidest things in a line of stupid things that people continue to clamor on about. Too many idiots out there who can't differentiate between "you don't have to" and "you shall not."

I hear all kinds of people claiming that continuing to wear a mask means you don't follow science because CDC says not to wear them anymore. Those people are pretty much all dumbasses.


Not to mention their inability to know who has what authority to regulate. The CDC is a medical institution. They released a statement saying fully vaccinated people are neither at risk of contracting COVID (or at least a severe case), and are also not at risk for transmitting COVID. It's a purely scientific take on the situation. Hence why states still have mask mandates. It's not time to lift mandates yet because many people still haven't been vaccinated.

Then when many of us balked at the announcement, the antis claim it's because we suddenly don't trust the CDC. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's simply that it was made too early. And predictably the antis are taking it to mean the masking thing is over.

The announcement should have waited a few more weeks.

But now here we are... and hopefully this doesn't cause problems

I'm fine with the announcement being made as soon as CDC thinks they have the info to back up an opinion. The last thing they need is for it to look like they delayed making an announcement to impact policy. It's then up to government, media, etc to communicate what the CDC announcement means. And it's up to people to use their full brain capacity.

Slowguy

(insert pithy phrase here...)
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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slowguy wrote:
g_lev wrote:
slowguy wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


This is one of the stupidest things in a line of stupid things that people continue to clamor on about. Too many idiots out there who can't differentiate between "you don't have to" and "you shall not."

I hear all kinds of people claiming that continuing to wear a mask means you don't follow science because CDC says not to wear them anymore. Those people are pretty much all dumbasses.


Not to mention their inability to know who has what authority to regulate. The CDC is a medical institution. They released a statement saying fully vaccinated people are neither at risk of contracting COVID (or at least a severe case), and are also not at risk for transmitting COVID. It's a purely scientific take on the situation. Hence why states still have mask mandates. It's not time to lift mandates yet because many people still haven't been vaccinated.

Then when many of us balked at the announcement, the antis claim it's because we suddenly don't trust the CDC. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's simply that it was made too early. And predictably the antis are taking it to mean the masking thing is over.

The announcement should have waited a few more weeks.

But now here we are... and hopefully this doesn't cause problems


I'm fine with the announcement being made as soon as CDC thinks they have the info to back up an opinion. The last thing they need is for it to look like they delayed making an announcement to impact policy. It's then up to government, media, etc to communicate what the CDC announcement means. And it's up to people to use their full brain capacity.

That's fair... but the bold statement here is the problem...

In any case... My county in PA is now at 62.5% first dose, 34% fully vaxxed. Our local R0 value is at 0.69... I think we are doing pretty well here
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


I was the first to call it therefore all others are just building and expanding on my premise.

You win! Congrats!

Doing a victory lap as I type
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


I was the first to call it therefore all others are just building and expanding on my premise.


You win! Congrats!


Doing a victory lap as I type



Suffer Well.
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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slowguy wrote:
sonofdad wrote:
There may be some small component that is physical, maybe a constricted airway or some-such, but it is mostly a mental issue. I frequently deal with people who have similar issues, and I expect you will disagree with this, as most of them do.


Especially since the gag reflex is something triggered by contact with the roof of your mouth, back of the throat or tongue near the tonsils. If a mask is triggering a gag reflex, he's wearing it wrong.

You're correct. ( And P.S., Justgeorge meant to say he has a strong gag reflex not weak one ) It is something people do to themselves by thrusting their tongue upward and backward and pressing on the same area you would with your finger to try and make your self throw up. It's not done intentionally and there are issues with the anatomy of the throat and tongue and tongue thrusting habits. It's a reflex on top of a reflex. These people will often time gag on pills or even brushing their teeth yet can eat and drink fine.
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


I was the first to call it therefore all others are just building and expanding on my premise.


You win! Congrats!


Doing a victory lap as I type


You can do better
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


I was the first to call it therefore all others are just building and expanding on my premise.


You win! Congrats!


Doing a victory lap as I type




You can do better

Why would I? My effort was commensurate with the importance of the achievement.

Suffer Well.
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

That’s so funny. This reminds me of when I was talking with my 15 year old son recently about my daughter who is pure-teenage-insanity. She stopped doing school work and had Ds and Fs this year. I told her she’s probably going to have to repeat this year. Now she’s in overdrive to bring her grades up. She’s very snarly about it. She has succeeded in getting back to Cs and Bs. I would love to ask her what she thinks about all of it, but my son says only jerks say, “I told you so.” We were laughing about it. I could ask, “did you learn your lesson?” and be such a bitch.

Congratulations on being so smart. It’s fun to see your success. I didn’t catch your prediction, but it sounds like it was a pretty big deal.
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Re: CDC said off with the mask if [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
jmh wrote:
windywave wrote:
g_lev wrote:
windywave wrote:
Almost like I am a seer

https://www.axios.com/...e4-2ae02ae9ec61.html


Because this was such a bold prediction nobody could possibly have foreseen this?!


I was the first to call it therefore all others are just building and expanding on my premise.


You win! Congrats!


Doing a victory lap as I type




You can do better

Why would I? My effort was commensurate with the importance of the achievement.

Personal satisfaction of doing a job well?
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