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Re: Best disc for climbing? [thatzone]
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Why would you want or need a disc for climbing?? Just use the lightest wheels you have.
Re: Best disc for climbing? [chgrubb]
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Should clarify. A HILLY IM or 1/2 IM.
Re: Best disc for climbing? [thatzone]
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IMHO - HED Black
- It's generally awesome overall, and fast when it matters-- on flats and descent
- Killer brakes for the descent
- Relatively light as disc wheels go
- Wide internal and external, which adds to its general awesomeness
Re: Best disc for climbing?
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Someone change my mind.
A light standard wheel paired with a disc cover
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A light standard wheel paired with a disc cover
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Re: Best disc for climbing? [Ryanppax]
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Ryanppax wrote:
Someone change my mind. A light standard wheel paired with a disc cover
Yup. Best of both worlds.
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Re: Best disc for climbing? [Ryanppax]
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How is that materially different from the way spoked discs are constructed? I have not compared weight, but an Ardennes Black with a disc cover seems like it would be the same as a JET Black disc.
The trade-off is cost for convenience. I chose a disc because I did not feel like messing with a cover. But, if i were budget-constrained, I might have considered a cover on a standard rear wheel for my bike.
The trade-off is cost for convenience. I chose a disc because I did not feel like messing with a cover. But, if i were budget-constrained, I might have considered a cover on a standard rear wheel for my bike.
Re: Best disc for climbing? [exxxviii]
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No first hand experience be honest... But I have been told discs handle differently, and not so great descending.
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Re: Best disc for climbing? [thatzone]
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If you're worried about weight throw into the mix a tubular disc then
Re: Best disc for climbing? [thatzone]
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Re: Best disc for climbing? [exxxviii]
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exxxviii wrote:
How is that materially different from the way spoked discs are constructed? I have not compared weight, but an Ardennes Black with a disc cover seems like it would be the same as a JET Black disc. The trade-off is cost for convenience. I chose a disc because I did not feel like messing with a cover. But, if i were budget-constrained, I might have considered a cover on a standard rear wheel for my bike.
^^^This.
A dedicated disc also allows you to easily run a race-only tire and latex tube. Personally I run a Conti SuperSonic with latex.....not something I'd train on, and no risk of changing tires/tubes pre race and getting something like an undetected pinch flat.
None of this is essential, but convenience is nice.
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Re: Best disc for climbing? [exxxviii]
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exxxviii wrote:
IMHO - HED Black - It's generally awesome overall, and fast when it matters-- on flats and descent
- Killer brakes for the descent
- Relatively light as disc wheels go
- Wide internal and external, which adds to its general awesomeness
This. You'll save more time by braking late than you will lose due to an extra 200 grams.
The new AEOX disc is just as light as Roval but has a textured brake track, so there's that's, too
Re: Best disc for climbing? [BigBoyND]
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I’d pricing and braking matter, here’s the lightest weight wheel with aluminum brake track that I know of
https://ronwheels.com/...els/101-aeron-x.html
https://ronwheels.com/...els/101-aeron-x.html
Re: Best disc for climbing? [DFW_Tri]
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Renn 555 is slightly lighter and cheaper
Re: Best disc for climbing? [BigBoyND]
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According to Frank, the weight for his wide brack track wheel is 1190 grams. Previous generation wheels may be lighter but that’s probably because of thinner brake track.
Re: Best disc for climbing? [DFW_Tri]
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He's got a wider one? Wider than 24mm?
Re: Best disc for climbing? [BigBoyND]
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Here are stats Frank emailed me about 555
Brake track width is 24mm. Inner bead width is 18.25mm
Weight is 1190 grams
Max lateral runout is .5mm
Max vertical runout is 1mm
Aluminum brake track
Nomes honeycomb core with 3k plainweave carbon skin
Aluminum hub 8,9,10 and 11 speed compatible
Brake track width is 24mm. Inner bead width is 18.25mm
Weight is 1190 grams
Max lateral runout is .5mm
Max vertical runout is 1mm
Aluminum brake track
Nomes honeycomb core with 3k plainweave carbon skin
Aluminum hub 8,9,10 and 11 speed compatible
Re: Best disc for climbing? [ZenTriBrett]
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ZenTriBrett wrote:
Ryanppax wrote:
Someone change my mind. A light standard wheel paired with a disc cover
Yup. Best of both worlds.
I've always wondered that. Get the lightest climbing wheels you could afford, then slap on a disk cover. "Best of both worlds", no? Could anyone think of negatives going this route?
Re: Best disc for climbing? [alfonso132]
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In my mind, the Citec 8000 is perfect for that.
It's very light (sub<1000g), and the braking track is aluminum so its perfect for the descents.
It's very light (sub<1000g), and the braking track is aluminum so its perfect for the descents.
Re: Best disc for climbing? [alfonso132]
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alfonso132 wrote:
ZenTriBrett wrote:
Ryanppax wrote:
Someone change my mind. A light standard wheel paired with a disc cover
Yup. Best of both worlds.
I've always wondered that. Get the lightest climbing wheels you could afford, then slap on a disk cover. "Best of both worlds", no? Could anyone think of negatives going this route?
It's a hassle to take wheel covers off; you'll need a cassette chain whip to do so. I have had issues with chain rub in the largest cassette cog.
Re: Best disc for climbing? [alfonso132]
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alfonso132 wrote:
Get the lightest climbing wheels you could afford, then slap on a disk cover. "Best of both worlds", no? Could anyone think of negatives going this route?Uhmm, hello... no WHOMP WHOMP sound
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Re: Best disc for climbing? [strangename]
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strangename wrote:
In my mind, the Citec 8000 is perfect for that. It's very light (sub<1000g), and the braking track is aluminum so its perfect for the descents.
The Ultra version is 825g, which is incredible. BUT it has a 20.5mm external width.
alfonso132 wrote:
I've always wondered that. Get the lightest climbing wheels you could afford, then slap on a disk cover. "Best of both worlds", no? Could anyone think of negatives going this route?
Of course there are negatives:
- Doesn't look as nice because it generally has the ugly screws or visible tape
- You'd need to find a very light wheel to make up for the weight of most covers + tape/glue/hardware
- The cover shape won't be aero optimized. Neither flat nor lenticular. If it has screws, it'll have indents.
- God forbid a cover comes loose while you're riding. Less likely with a properly manufactured item.
- The time/effort of getting it just right
At that point, why not get a Ron, Renn, or AEOX?