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CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance?
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I'm now using a CPAP machine per doctor's orders due to excessive snoring and sleep apnea issues. I think I'm sleeping better and I have a little more energy during the day - not getting that afternoon fade where I feel like I need a nap. Which makes me wonder if this will lead to some improvement in my athletic performance, even if by a very small margin. Just wondering if anyone else has a similar experience and if it helped or hurt.

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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [Giant Steps] [ In reply to ]
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I don't use it but if you are now getting a better sleep your performance will increase vs. performance without the machine because you are more rested. Kind of makes sense :-)
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [Giant Steps] [ In reply to ]
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No doubt it helps my athletic performance compared to not treating the issue. Have been using CPAP for a decade. Starting waking up in the night with pounding heart in my mid to late 40s, which obviously affected my sleep and had me concerned about arrhythmias or other heart issues. I only have apnea episodes during REM sleep.
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [Giant Steps] [ In reply to ]
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CPAP user going on 7 years now.

It definitely helps, but only if it significantly improves your sleep or sleep quality.

Without my CPAP machine, I jerk awake after 3-4 hrs, and can't go back to sleep since I can't get enough air and my body will literally not let me go back to sleep. (I think it's genetic, I'm not overweight or fat necked, but still need high CPAP pressure.)

The CPAP lets me sleep regularly 5-6 hrs straight, and then with more pressure, another 1-2 on top, which is great. As a result of getting my CPAP, my workouts are definitely higher quality - before it, I was really having to slog through them with that less than half-awake feeling - you get can thru those, but it becomes impossible to do hard efforts when you are that sleep deprived.

I wouldn't say it has improved my performance like additional great training, but for sure, it's stopped me from suffering a precipitous decline due to lack of sleep/quality.

Also, it took me a good 1-2 years to get my CPAP pressure setting right. The CPAP test in the doctor's office put me on the minimum (7-8 mmhG) but I'm certain that was because the 20-year old night tech took one look at my 'fit' condition and assumed I wouldn't need high pressure. I barely slept the first night, and kept telling him "it's hard to breath, I feel like I need more air", and he said I would get used to it. I did a second test a few months later, and it was the same scenario - I slept so little that night that the test read "patient was awake nearly the entire evening period." It was only after I self-adjusted my CPAP settings over the next year gradually , that I discovered that the high settings helped a LOT - made all the difference from near-useless CPAP to very, very useful.
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [Giant Steps] [ In reply to ]
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I know a guy who was a pretty good, but not great, track sprinter for his age group. After being diagnosed with OSA and started using a CPAP, became multi-time masters world champion
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [lightheir] [ In reply to ]
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lightheir wrote:
CPAP user going on 7 years now.

It definitely helps, but only if it significantly improves your sleep or sleep quality.

Without my CPAP machine, I jerk awake after 3-4 hrs, and can't go back to sleep since I can't get enough air and my body will literally not let me go back to sleep. (I think it's genetic, I'm not overweight or fat necked, but still need high CPAP pressure.)

The CPAP lets me sleep regularly 5-6 hrs straight, and then with more pressure, another 1-2 on top, which is great. As a result of getting my CPAP, my workouts are definitely higher quality - before it, I was really having to slog through them with that less than half-awake feeling - you get can thru those, but it becomes impossible to do hard efforts when you are that sleep deprived.

I wouldn't say it has improved my performance like additional great training, but for sure, it's stopped me from suffering a precipitous decline due to lack of sleep/quality.

Also, it took me a good 1-2 years to get my CPAP pressure setting right. The CPAP test in the doctor's office put me on the minimum (7-8 mmhG) but I'm certain that was because the 20-year old night tech took one look at my 'fit' condition and assumed I wouldn't need high pressure. I barely slept the first night, and kept telling him "it's hard to breath, I feel like I need more air", and he said I would get used to it. I did a second test a few months later, and it was the same scenario - I slept so little that night that the test read "patient was awake nearly the entire evening period." It was only after I self-adjusted my CPAP settings over the next year gradually , that I discovered that the high settings helped a LOT - made all the difference from near-useless CPAP to very, very useful.

Sounds just like me. And I agree, there is very much a "learning curve" as your body adjusts to the CPAP. I've had to tweak the settings a few times to get the pressure and humidity right.

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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [Giant Steps] [ In reply to ]
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Giant Steps wrote:
I'm now using a CPAP machine per doctor's orders due to excessive snoring and sleep apnea issues. I think I'm sleeping better and I have a little more energy during the day - not getting that afternoon fade where I feel like I need a nap. Which makes me wonder if this will lead to some improvement in my athletic performance, even if by a very small margin. Just wondering if anyone else has a similar experience and if it helped or hurt.

7 years of almost falling asleep for multiple hours a day from lack of sleep at night. Sometimes taking 2 naps a day

Was prescribed CPAP. After a month insurance company told provider to take the machine back. I sleep on my stomach and they said the report showed I was not getting the benefit I should because the mask was getting punched off my face. Didn’t feel any difference so I think they were correct.

Stated a week ago taking an antihistamine to sleep longer and deeper Now getting 8 hours instead of 5.

According to Garmin watch (yes I know they are not super accurate). I’m now getting double the REM sleep. 120% more deep sleep

Unbelievable the difference. I feel like myself again.

Set 4 PRs in workouts in just those 7 days. I no longer have to keep jerking myself out of a stooper all day long

Old FTP is a joke. I just did 4 x 20 min sweet spot workout 20 watts above my FTP test from. Just 2 weeks ago.

20x100 5 seconds faster each rep than my best from last month.

So if your CPAP gets you the rest/recovery you need you could really see some special results.
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [MrTri123] [ In reply to ]
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Undiagnosed sleep apnea has been shown to lessen your life expectancy by 10 years so I am glad you got the machine.
Last edited by: ctree: Oct 21, 19 16:55
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [Giant Steps] [ In reply to ]
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I'm about to find out. My wife finally convinced me to do a sleep study and they diagnosed me with sleep apnea. I'm 45 years old, and had started snoring last few years. I'm always tired and it affects my motivation to get out there and train. Hope things turn around!
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [ctree] [ In reply to ]
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ctree wrote:
Undiagnosed sleep apnea has been shown to lessen your life expectancy by 10 years so I am glad you got the machine.

I did get the machine

But unfortunately the insurance company took it back as it shows I wasn’t getting benefit from it as it would come off my nose/mouth within minutes of falling asleep

I spoke with a dr about surgery but they said it was successful in less than 50% of the cases and could make it worse


Have you heard this?
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [MrTri123] [ In reply to ]
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From my experience working in the OR surgery is pretty rare and it is painful. Most people just use the machine but I have never heard of an insurance company taking a machine away. It sounds like you just need to be refitted for a new mask if it keeps falling off. Best of luck to you and it will definitely benefit you.
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [ctree] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you

They tried 3 different masks

Been trying to NOT sleep in my stomach for 30+ years. Have not been able to stop it

Will fall asleep in my back and end up on my stomach with my face buried in the pillow

That is why the masks get pushed off

When I first got the mask the therapist said it probably wouldn’t work if I didn’t change my sleeping position

The readings on the cpap the insurance company/sleep tech received was that I was only wearing it a few minutes a night.

When it slides the the side it doesn’t register it is being used.
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [MrTri123] [ In reply to ]
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try the Airfit n30i mask, it might help.

surgery sucks and really isn't a good idea. do not do it, I rarely hear of it being done plus it hurts.

about 50-80% improvement but you can't predict if which group you are plus it only reduces by approximately 50% so if you are severe at 50 events per hour it will typically reduce you to 25x/hr which is moderate.
Last edited by: IMStillTrying: Oct 21, 19 19:33
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [IMStillTrying] [ In reply to ]
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IMStillTrying wrote:
try the Airfit n30i mask, it might help.

surgery sucks and really isn't a good idea. do not do it, I rarely hear of it being done plus it hurts.

about 50-80% improvement but you can't predict if which group you are plus it only reduces by approximately 50% so if you are severe at 50 events per hour it will typically reduce you to 25x/hr which is moderate.

Thank you for the suggestion of the Airfit n30i

Unfortunately that was the first one we tried and didn’t work
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [MrTri123] [ In reply to ]
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That sucks.

How about one of their pillows that have the depression.

If you google “pillows for side sleepers cpap” it might work o/w your kinda out of luck
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [Giant Steps] [ In reply to ]
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I am 51 and have been using a CPAP since 2003. It has worked wonders for me in terms of sleep quality and all things related- resting heart rate, blood pressure and fatigue. If you aren't sleeping enough you aren't recovering.
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [MrTri123] [ In reply to ]
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I'm basically a stomach sleeper although not as "bad" as you. I found I have to almost wedge myself in to stay on my side.
Kinda like tricking my body that I'm on my stomach.

It's a pillow in front, one in back with the face mask kinda hanging of the edge of my head pillow.

Recently been sleeping on the couch (shoulder pain not kicked out of bed) and kinda do the same with the back of the couch and a pillow in front.
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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [MrTri123] [ In reply to ]
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Have you looked into the dental devices?

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Re: CPAP/APAP - has it hurt or helped your athletic performance? [Giant Steps] [ In reply to ]
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I didn’t mention this in my earlier comment, but I underwent a sleep study ~8 years ago and was diagnosed with mild OSA. Couldn’t tolerate the CPAP, and since my apnea wasn’t too bad, I just ignored it.

Didn’t give it much thought over the last few years, until about a month ago I had a couple of severe ‘jolt me out of bed’ episodes. Went back in to speak with a sleep specialist, who set me up for another study. Just got back from my follow up appointment to discuss the test results.

Seems my apnea has gotten much worse. Averaging 25 apnea events per hour, O2 saturation levels in the low 80s. Surprisingly, when trying CPAP, it got worse! Apparently I reacted to the pressure during exhalation and central sleep apnea kicked in, too. However, when trying BIPAP, I had no stoppages, O2 saturation in the mid 90s, and went into REM sleep as well.

Suffice it to say I am really looking forward to getting my BIPAP and seeing how it effects my recovery.
Last edited by: Mudge: Nov 15, 19 12:55
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