TimeIsUp wrote:

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss trade disputes with China and calling out the Fed to decrease rates faster not affecting the economy on a grand scale. He IS trying to affect the economy on a grand scale.

Confirming your TDS publicly is the first step to a cure

To me, its just easy to see from the other side. If the economy now was growing at a 4% clip, then everyone would be saying that Trump's deregulations/tax cuts "primed the pump" and let the economy blossom.

However, the economy is now growing at the same, and is predicted to grow at a lower rate than Obama's (while further increasing the deficit because the tax cuts/tarriffs are not paying for themselves).

its stupid to look at the below chart and say that trump's tax cuts initially allowed to economy to grow very rapidly (as predicted) but then would tail off to less than 2% annual growth, which would not pay for itself. Its silly to look at graphs as those shown below and say "trump has nothing to do with it." it also makes sense to say in the first 1-2 years (before any legislation was passed) to say that trump sitting in the Oval office doesnt impact anything.

To further see things you would need to see a global chart of the relative economies growing/slowing. I

Regardless of what the economy does over the next few years, do we agree that Trump owns it? After the trend lines for most economic indicators carried on from the Obama years into the Trump Presidency, it seemed that at some point it had to become “Trump’s” as his policies were enacted and took hold.

Is it safe to assume that we’ll all agree that at this point it’s definitely Trump’s economy?

"Charlie, a quarter inch the other way and it would have gone in"

Its just silly to me that trump didnt realize that the economy could also go in the other direction

TweetTrump tweeted today “The Fake News Media is doing everything they can to crash the economy because they think that will be bad for me and my re-election,”.

See. It isn't his fault. Was the feds. Was Congress. Now it is the Fake News that is at fault. But definitely not Donnie Dumbass.

Well how could it be his fault? He's the most successful. most self-made businessman in the history of this country! There are obviously other forces at work here, dragging his MAGA plans down!

Side note - if you look at a ranking of wealthy people (world or US), Trump is WAAAYYYY down on that list. Yet somehow, he's managed to cement himself in the psyche of a large chunk of the American populace as the epitome of rags-to-(mega)-riches success. Fucking bizarre.

Regardless of what the economy does over the next few years, do we agree that Trump owns it? After the trend lines for most economic indicators carried on from the Obama years into the Trump Presidency, it seemed that at some point it had to become “Trump’s” as his policies were enacted and took hold.

Is it safe to assume that we’ll all agree that at this point it’s definitely Trump’s economy?

Tweetwump agrees. Yesterday, he said …

“I won the election, the markets went up thousands of points, things started happening,” Trump said at a rally here. “If, for some reason, I were not to have won the election, these markets would have crashed. That will happen even more so in 2020. You have no choice but to vote for me, because your 401(k), everything is going to be down the tubes.”
“Whether you love me or hate me, you have got to vote for me,” he added.

He pretends to be losing a ton of money to serve as our favorite president. It's a tremendous sacrifice.
“It's probably costing me from $3 to $5 billion for the privilege of being — and I couldn't care less—I don’t care. You know if you’re wealthy, it doesn't matter. I just want to do a great job,” Trump added.