NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem

Mar 27, 19 14:18

Post #1 of 16 (994 views)

Possibly the best play in football (love it when someone sneaks one in to start the 2nd half)

But the rules changes have killed it... how do they fix it... I don't have a solution hoping someone here does.

While we are at it.. extra points and the 2pt conversion... I don't like the current situation where you have to declare a 2pt play ahead of time.. (technically I Think you could still try a fake extra point.. wonder if we will see that for 2pts some time)

Just Triing
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Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]

Mar 27, 19 14:22

Post #2 of 16 (987 views)

Have you watched the AAF?

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]

Mar 27, 19 14:37

Post #3 of 16 (969 views)

Get a big fast dude with good hands to kick it to himself.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]

Mar 27, 19 14:52

Post #4 of 16 (953 views)

Just unfix it. The previous version worked just fine. My anecdotal eyeball test was that there weren't a huge number of injuries on the previous version. Not sure what the actual numbers were.

I hate the idea of being able to try a 4th and 15 to keep the ball. Why not play a game of duck duck goose instead?

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [Duffy] [ In reply to ]

Mar 27, 19 14:55

Post #5 of 16 (949 views)

Duffy wrote:

Get a big fast dude with good hands to kick it to himself.

This. Since the kicker is still allowed to take a running start.

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]

Mar 27, 19 19:45

Post #6 of 16 (871 views)

Ball has to go 5 yards, not 10.

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [j p o] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 5:40

Post #7 of 16 (780 views)

j p o wrote:

Just unfix it. The previous version worked just fine. My anecdotal eyeball test was that there weren't a huge number of injuries on the previous version. Not sure what the actual numbers were.

I hate the idea of being able to try a 4th and 15 to keep the ball. Why not play a game of duck duck goose instead?

This. Most injuries happen on full kickoffs. They've ruined the chance for an exciting comeback by essentially eliminating the onside kick. I'd like to see some artful kickers make use of the popup but you have that pesky fair catch rule.

I like the 5y suggestion too.

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [ripple] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 5:47

Post #8 of 16 (770 views)

I say move the kickoff up further. Then, if on the kickoff you can get it through the uprights from some crazy distance......3 points. Other team still gets the ball on the 20.

Lol.

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [M~] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 6:34

Post #9 of 16 (740 views)

M~ wrote:

Ball has to go 5 yards, not 10.

10

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onside_kick

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 6:37

Post #10 of 16 (738 views)

Kick offs and on-side kicks remain but make them no hard contact. No blocking, no tackling. Ball-carrier is downed on first touch with opponent.

Remember - It's important to be comfortable in your own skin... because it turns out society frowns on wearing other people's

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [Nova] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 6:48

Post #11 of 16 (727 views)

Nova wrote:

M~ wrote:

Ball has to go 5 yards, not 10.

10

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onside_kick

Yes, I am saying have it go 5 instead of 10.

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [TAC] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 7:50

Post #12 of 16 (707 views)

TAC wrote:

Have you watched the AAF?

No, should I?

Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [M~] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 7:51

Post #13 of 16 (704 views)

M~ wrote:

Ball has to go 5 yards, not 10.

Interesting, but the NFL wouldn't like it cause now you have guys running at each other, but it would be interesting to watch and the success ratio would go up.

Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [DavHamm] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 8:10

Post #14 of 16 (696 views)

DavHamm wrote:

TAC wrote:

Have you watched the AAF?

No, should I?

Not if you think NFL is boring. AAF doesn’t kickoff (places ball at 25 yard line instead) or kick extra points (Only field goals). Must go for 2 on touchdowns. On side kick is 4th and 12 from your own 28 yard line. Other than the going for 2, it’s a Snooze fest.

As for fixing the current on side rules, I would go with the good old XFL Scramble...
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Last edited by: TAC: Mar 28, 19 8:11

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [M~] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 8:22

Post #15 of 16 (686 views)

M~ wrote:

Nova wrote:

M~ wrote:

Ball has to go 5 yards, not 10.

10

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onside_kick

Yes, I am saying have it go 5 instead of 10.

Gotcha, misunderstood.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." Jimi Hendrix

Re: NFL -- Lets solve the onside kick problem [TAC] [ In reply to ]

Mar 28, 19 9:52

Post #16 of 16 (656 views)

TAC wrote:

DavHamm wrote:

TAC wrote:

Have you watched the AAF?

No, should I?

Not if you think NFL is boring. AAF doesn’t kickoff (places ball at 25 yard line instead) or kick extra points (Only field goals). Must go for 2 on touchdowns. On side kick is 4th and 12 from your own 28 yard line. Other than the going for 2, it’s a Snooze fest.

As for fixing the current on side rules, I would go with the good old XFL Scramble...
https://gfycat.com/flatbeneficialdotterel

Yeah that does sound like they took the kicking game out completely, hell why not eliminate punts also. Oh that might make it exciting and high scoring.

I was going to say the only one I might not mind seeing in the NFL would be a mandatory go for 2 after a touchdown, but I actually think I would also be ok with a no punt rule (Sorry punters, just put you all out of a job)

Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

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