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Help me choose a mail order tribike please
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My last tribike was a 2007 Felt DA and after 11 years I am getting a new bike! Sadly our local trishop shut down (RIP Tri-Tech Multisport) so I am looking at a mail order bike. The two big developments in bike tech since my last purchase are DI2 and Disc brakes - I would like to get both. Also I am not wrench handy I need something easy to put together and adjust.

I am keeping them all around the same price point. I am MOP and race all distances from Sprint to IM.
Thanks for your thoughts,
John


Diamondback Andean Prebuilt: https://www.diamondback.com/...ebuilt-andean-two-41
Canyon Speedmax https://www.canyon.com/.../speedmax-cf-8-0-di2
QR PR5Disc https://quintanarootri.com/...ive-disc-ultegra-di2
Felt IA3 Disc: https://feltbicycles.com/...-disc-triathlon-bike
Last edited by: johnnybefit: Oct 29, 18 9:10
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Re: Help me choose a mail order tribike please [johnnybefit] [ In reply to ]
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John,

This line in your post concerns me and I want to help: I am worried about fit but will have to dial it in on my own but these seem to come somewhat dialed in.

For roughly a year I've been stewing on the issue of.....how does one sell the appropriate super bike on-line? Or from your perspective...how does one buy the appropriate super bike on-line? The first/easiest step is this: if you're comfortable on your current bike? And if you feel powerful in your current position? and if you think that position is a good starting place then here's what you and all new bike buyers in your situation should do.....

Get you bike level - it would be best in a trainer with something under the front wheel but you could simply lean it up against the wall as close to vertical as you can without it falling over, and with the front wheel straight.

Measure your Pad Y & Pad X - this is best done with a laser level and the cross-hairs right in the center of your bottom bracket (bb) but it can be done manually if you are really diligent about accuracy. Get a friend/family member to hold a long level right across the bb and then measure up to the top of your arm pad (Pad Y). Then turn the level vertical - and again right through the center of the bb (this could be done with a plumb line too) and measure to the rear of the arm pad (Pad Xr) and to the middle of the arm pad (Pad Xc).

The idea here is this - you're current bike fits pretty well, so we're gonna take the Pad Y/X off of it and compare it to the bikes you're considering. We can look at each new bike and see 1) if that bike has the same characteristics, 2) what size in that bike, and 3) what tid-bits (stems, arm pad spacers, etc) of hardware on needed to get the pads to the spot you like.

Lot's of "ifs" in this post. If you want to duplicate your current position and if you can measure it then come back to this post and together we can locate and reach the Pad Y/X prescribers of each bike you're looking at to pick the right one.

Ian

PS. let me be clear.....this is NOT the best way to prescribe a new bike purchase. The BEST way is to go to an educated, experienced fitter in your area who - and this is critical too - has the proper tooling (dynamic fit bike) and do a brand new fit from scratch. Out of that fit will come your perfect Pad Y/X ('cuase there might be a better position than your current bike) as well as all of your fit coordinates (seat height, set back, cockpit length, and all the details that lead to perfection). You might pay $250-$300 for that fit but you'll come out the other side absolutely certain of what bike to buy, knowing what parts you need where to make it perfect, and all of your fit details to be at your best. You've had your current bike for over 10 years. I think your new bike might last that long too. I think $30/year is worth comfort, power, happiness.

Ian Murray
http://www.TriathlonTrainingSeries.com
I like the pursuit of mastery
Twitter - @TriCoachIan
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I think that Quintana Roo has online fit calculator to get you in the ball park regarding fit.


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Re: Help me choose a mail order tribike please [hblake] [ In reply to ]
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From what I recall Premier gives you a credit toward a professional bike fitting if you purchase their bike.
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Re: Help me choose a mail order tribike please [ctree] [ In reply to ]
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We set the bike up before shipping after getting some measurements from the athlete so that it is close - based on a formula. Then we pay $200 toward a local bike fit to "dial in" the final position.

Dan Kennison

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http://www.PremierBike.com
http://www.PositionOneSports.com
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Re: Help me choose a mail order tribike please [Pmswanepoel] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks - forgot about that one!

Anyone else have opinions about these bikes?
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Re: Help me choose a mail order tribike please [johnnybefit] [ In reply to ]
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33 pages of opinions right here
TLDR: unbeatable value and unmatched customer support (as shown by the owner commenting right above you)

Benjamin Deal - Professional - Instagram - TriRig - Lodi Cyclery
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realbdeal wrote:
33 pages of opinions right here
TLDR: unbeatable value and unmatched customer support (as shown by the owner commenting right above you)

Delightful! Thanks for the short version too!
John
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Re: Help me choose a mail order tribike please [johnnybefit] [ In reply to ]
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At closer to the upper end of price point, I second that the best way to do it is to first get the correct fit them find the appropriate frame. Tho it seems that's not an option.

With the aero tests from last year, it seems like most frames in your budget are not going to outperform each other significantly. Like the old saying you're be better off going up-grades than getting them.

In that sense (caveat: as long as the frames fit you correctly), pick the one that's the most appealing to you and just run/ride with it.
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johnnybefit wrote:
My last tribike was a 2007 Felt DA and after 11 years I am getting a new bike! Sadly our local trishop shut down (RIP Tri-Tech Multisport) so I am looking at a mail order bike. The two big developments in bike tech since my last purchase are DI2 and Disc brakes - I would like to get both. Also I am not wrench handy I need something easy to put together and adjust. Finally I am worried about fit but will have to dial it in on my own but these seem to come somewhat dialed in.
I am keeping them all around the same price point. I am MOP and race all distances from Sprint to IM.
Thanks for your thoughts,
John


Diamondback Andean Prebuilt: https://www.diamondback.com/...ebuilt-andean-two-41
Canyon Speedmax https://www.canyon.com/.../speedmax-cf-8-0-di2
QR PR5Disc https://quintanarootri.com/...ive-disc-ultegra-di2
Felt IA3 Disc: https://feltbicycles.com/...-disc-triathlon-bike
Dan Wesley is in your area and, if memory serves, is a good bike fitter. Not sure if he has a fit bike, but he should be able to help you get fit coordinates to go shopping with.

Trent Nix
Owned and operated Tri Shop
F.I.S.T. Advanced Certified Fitter | Retul Master Certified Fitter (back when those were things)
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Re: Help me choose a mail order tribike please [zinny] [ In reply to ]
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zinny wrote:
In that sense (caveat: as long as the frames fit you correctly), pick the one that's the most appealing to you and just run/ride with it.

Thanks for that advice!

I should not have put the fit comment in my OP as I really want to get opinions on the bikes in case anyone else have feedback on their own rides!

Thanks, John
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trentnix wrote:

Dan Wesley is in your area and, if memory serves, is a good bike fitter. Not sure if he has a fit bike, but he should be able to help you get fit coordinates to go shopping with.

I forgot about Dan - thanks for reminder. Since his shop closed he has been a bit under the radar in the Ohio triathlon scene.
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I am in the same boat. I got a bike fit done and 2 of the bikes above don't even fit me. I decided to run with the Felt IA3 because the diamond back looks way to aggressive for a middle pack rider.
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Re: Help me choose a mail order tribike please [fatafut23] [ In reply to ]
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fatafut23 wrote:
I am in the same boat. I got a bike fit done and 2 of the bikes above don't even fit me. I decided to run with the Felt IA3 because the diamond back looks way to aggressive for a middle pack rider.

I do like the Felt IA3 and the price point for DI2 and Disc Brakes is good.
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