I have a bad saddle sore and can’t ride until it heals. I’m looking for an activity that’s as close to cycling as possible since I’m ramping up for IMCoz. Any ideas? Today I did the stairclimber/stairmaster at my gym and was surprised it really got my heart rate up! It seems like stairmaster works cycling muscles-has anyone subbed cycling for stairmaster or other machine/exercise?
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Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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How long are you thinking it will take to heal?
Just a week or two? Really anything that uses the legs... Stair master, elliptical, running...
I had really good crossover from running to cycling this year. I ran 6x and biked 1-2x still ended up with high ag bike splits. So, if it were me... I'd just run more.
Just a week or two? Really anything that uses the legs... Stair master, elliptical, running...
I had really good crossover from running to cycling this year. I ran 6x and biked 1-2x still ended up with high ag bike splits. So, if it were me... I'd just run more.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [Tom_hampton]
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Yeah, I’m going to up the running a bit but I’m worried about missing a long ride waiting til I can sit on a saddle, so I was thinking stairmaster since it works the glutes. Elliptical doesn’t increase my HR enough to be much of a workout
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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I'm certainly not recommending it but I lanced mine this year when I got really bad ones and then put some kind of diaper rash stuff on them I forget what it's called. Worked amazing
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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elliptical
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [Fishbum]
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Fishbum wrote:
I'm certainly not recommending it but I lanced mine this year when I got really bad ones and then put some kind of diaper rash stuff on them I forget what it's called. Worked amazing
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [Fishbum]
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Fishbum wrote:
I'm certainly not recommending it but I lanced mine this year when I got really bad ones and then put some kind of diaper rash stuff on them I forget what it's called. Worked amazingNope- not looking for remedies for saddle sores—looking for alternate activities so I don’t loose bike fitness. I’m not taking the chance of it getting infected!
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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cestmoi wrote:
Fishbum wrote:
I'm certainly not recommending it but I lanced mine this year when I got really bad ones and then put some kind of diaper rash stuff on them I forget what it's called. Worked amazingNope- not looking for remedies for saddle sores—looking for alternate activities so I don’t loose bike fitness. I’m not taking the chance of it getting infected!
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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cestmoi wrote:
Yeah, I’m going to up the running a bit but I’m worried about missing a long ride waiting til I can sit on a saddle, so I was thinking stairmaster since it works the glutes. Elliptical doesn’t increase my HR enough to be much of a workoutI don't really think you need to "worry" about missing one (or even two) long rides. Given that you are 4 weeks out, you should be at your peak. You aren't going to lose anything---especially since you are going to up the run a bit.
I think the elliptical would be the most "specific" to the cycling motion (speed of contraction, etc), but it certainly takes some coordination to do right...which I don't have, so I understand not being able to get your HR up.
I think one of those stair master's that lets you alter the step height would also work (the kind with two levers that you stand on), if you kept the step height similar to pedal stroke length, and took faster steps (similar to your normal bike cadence). I wouldn't think one of those stair climbers (the escalator style) would be as good, because the cadence would be SOOO different from normal running/cycling cadences.
But, you're only talking about a week or two. So, just doing SOMETHING/anything will keep your current fitness just fine. Do an extra run, do an extra swim, and spend some time on the stairmaster instead of a long bike. Just don't hurry back to the bike and risk another saddle sore, and you will be fine.
My second $0.02.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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SQUAAAAATS!!!!
Seriously. Call it cross training. Youd be surprised how much basic weight training can help, given specificity. Good luck, man!
Seriously. Call it cross training. Youd be surprised how much basic weight training can help, given specificity. Good luck, man!
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [777]
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777 wrote:
SQUAAAAATS!!!! Seriously. Call it cross training. Youd be surprised how much basic weight training can help, given specificity. Good luck, man!
I got it!!! Call Ashley Horner... she'll hook u up
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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Stairclimber/stairmaster should be fine for you. Cycling and stairclimbing are really similar in the muscles recruited and used, as well as the cardio. I'd say stairclimbing has a lot more in common with cycling rather than running, actually.
Standing cycling can be considered.
Our YMCAs also have the Precor Adaptive Motion trainer in quantity; check to see if your gym has them as they are super popular now. They look like ellipticals but actually you can have a huge range of leg stride motions from cycling to running, so you can def do standing cycling-type workouts on them. I found them really legit for cardio and leg beatdown; I've been using it more as a running substitute to alleviate my ankle arthritis but it def does cycling motions really effectively too.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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Rowing.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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Speed Skating
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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Pics or it didn't happen............
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"PAIN is nothing compared to what it feels like to QUIT"
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"PAIN is nothing compared to what it feels like to QUIT"
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [cestmoi]
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cestmoi wrote:
I’m not taking the chance of it getting infected!Pretty easy to keep that from happening.
Open it, squeeze a few times (mine bleed like crazy), put some alcohol and antibiotic on it, ride as usual. Ya, it hurts to be grinding on an open wound, but... man up.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [rruff]
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I had one this summer that I damn near lanced, glad I didn’t. I alternated triple antibiotic & a gel epsom salt treatment I bought at Walmart, one in the morning & one at night. Resolved itself rather quickly & rode through it.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [rruff]
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rruff wrote:
cestmoi wrote:
I’m not taking the chance of it getting infected!Pretty easy to keep that from happening.
Open it, squeeze a few times (mine bleed like crazy), put some alcohol and antibiotic on it, ride as usual. Ya, it hurts to be grinding on an open wound, but... man up.
I just remembered. A And D is what works for me.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [jaretj]
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Speed Skating+1
Eric Heiden and many other great cyclists were/are great speed skaters.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [rruff]
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rruff wrote:
cestmoi wrote:
I’m not taking the chance of it getting infected!Pretty easy to keep that from happening.
Open it, squeeze a few times (mine bleed like crazy), put some alcohol and antibiotic on it, ride as usual. Ya, it hurts to be grinding on an open wound, but... man up.
That's what I did...Hot shower, let it soften up a bit, and squeeze until hurt like a bey0tch (and bled). Alcohol after shower, then a triple antibiotic. I've done that at least 2 times over the past couple of years.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [ripple]
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ripple wrote:
Fishbum wrote:
I'm certainly not recommending it but I lanced mine this year when I got really bad ones and then put some kind of diaper rash stuff on them I forget what it's called. Worked amazingI had bad ones earlier in the season, and a buddy told me the holy trinity of saddle sore treatment is nystatin, hydrocortisone (the Rx stuff, not the cheap drug store 1%), and bacitracin (or triple antibiotic). So I tried it.. it's not like it disappears overnight, but it's better than waiting it out. Personal experience - it'll make it manageable to ride with maybe one day off, and gradually get better even as you ride.
Preparation H works for mine. Never miss a workout. And they still will disappear in a day or 2 using prep H. But you have to be consistent with use. Dries it right up.
Second thing is figure out why you got it. Either fit, saddle or shorts. Fix the problem. I tried a new saddle, which helped a little, but it turned out that the new Chamiox in Pearl Izumi shorts this year didn't agree with me. Switched to different shorts and no more problems.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [velocomp]
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Interesting .. it is important to figure out the "why". I was using chamois cream and stopped, and they've been gone since spring. I know some people swear by cream, I did too, but it seemed like the padding was irritating me and stays better put without it.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [ripple]
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ripple wrote:
Interesting .. it is important to figure out the "why". I was using chamois cream and stopped, and they've been gone since spring. I know some people swear by cream, I did too, but it seemed like the padding was irritating me and stays better put without it.
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [efernand]
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efernand wrote:
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Speed Skating+1
Eric Heiden and many other great cyclists were/are great speed skaters.
Yes!!! Totally agree....now where to find me a speed skating oval :P
Re: Help: Bad saddle sore! Alternative activity most-close to cycling? [Tom_hampton]
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Tom_hampton wrote:
cestmoi wrote:
Yeah, I’m going to up the running a bit but I’m worried about missing a long ride waiting til I can sit on a saddle, so I was thinking stairmaster since it works the glutes. Elliptical doesn’t increase my HR enough to be much of a workoutI don't really think you need to "worry" about missing one (or even two) long rides. Given that you are 4 weeks out, you should be at your peak. You aren't going to lose anything---especially since you are going to up the run a bit.
I think the elliptical would be the most "specific" to the cycling motion (speed of contraction, etc), but it certainly takes some coordination to do right...which I don't have, so I understand not being able to get your HR up.
I think one of those stair master's that lets you alter the step height would also work (the kind with two levers that you stand on), if you kept the step height similar to pedal stroke length, and took faster steps (similar to your normal bike cadence). I wouldn't think one of those stair climbers (the escalator style) would be as good, because the cadence would be SOOO different from normal running/cycling cadences.
But, you're only talking about a week or two. So, just doing SOMETHING/anything will keep your current fitness just fine. Do an extra run, do an extra swim, and spend some time on the stairmaster instead of a long bike. Just don't hurry back to the bike and risk another saddle sore, and you will be fine.
My second $0.02.
Thanks for this! my gym has two kinds of stair steppers - "escalator style", which wasn't great because the stepping cadence is low, and the other, one that is like stepping on levers, was much better, since you can, as you said, take large or small steps. I definitely think this is keeping my glute and hammy strength up while I can't sit on the bike!!!