One bike is more expensive and more integrated. The other is cheaper and accepts more standard components. It all depends on what you are looking for.

Note on BMC TM01, the V cockpit comes default. if your fit requires a flat bar, you will need to special order it. My LBS quoted me $1,000 additional plus labor if I asked for the flat bar (I don't have the BMC, was just asking).

I thought part of the fun of that v cockpit was adjust-ability. At least that's how it's billed. Sounds like you're saying there wasn't much movement. Maybe I should say bike is adjustable since seat has a lot of movement fore/aft.

I wanted to buy the bike when it came out, but it didn't go low enough for my desired fit utilizing the V bar. The manual on BMC's website has an example for their size M-S bike https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/...sembly_Manual_EN.pdf

I also think that adjusting the V cockpit might be slightly more tedious. The risers extend diagonally. As a result, when you raise the pad, you'll also extend pad / extension reach. Which means, if you are raising the bar, you'll likely have to move the pads and extensions back. This seems less straightforward to me. This might or might not bother you.

Good to know. So bring an extra 6-pack as tip for my fitter...

What kind of movement is there for adjusting the arm pads out, if any at all? So increasing the spacing between arm pads.

Horizontally, the pad can move in and out around 80mm in 10 mm increments. Vertically, the pad can move up and down 70mm in 5mm increments.

Range is good, just not that Y and X are not independent, Min X in lowest stack is 80mm shorter than min X in the tallest configuration.

Disclaimer again, I didn't end up buying the bike (mostly due to cost of the flat bar), but did a lot of research when I was looking. I ended up buying an Orbea Ordu during end of year stock clearance, and upgraded to DI2 for under $4k.

A note on the Ordu, the draft box attachment mechanism is very annoying, I had to buy an extra long ball end hex tool just for attaching it.

I've been looking at that Orbea...

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It’s slick. Bothers me that I have a $300 upgrade right out of the gate to replace the brake levers. Love some of the stock components though. I’m torn.

Orbea Ordu. I own one. I have raced it the last two years, and I would not hesitate to buy another one. If you'd need to upgrade the Di2 and sell the wheels on the Ordu you're looking at, would it be more beneficial to just buy the frameset and build it up with the aero bars and electronic shifting you want?

I’d buy the Di2 model. Problem is their Di2 cockpit uses Vision brake levers which don’t have shifters on them like the Ultegra brakes do.

Also the wheels on the M20i9 Team are stock where as the BMC are mavic carbon. So resale value on wheels levels the price of the bikes out.

Here’s what we’re comparing:

https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/...imemachine-01-three/

https://www.orbea.com/...les/ordu-m20-team-19

I recently got an orbea ordu, and I'm really happy with it. I like the flexibility that comes with standard/non-integrated bars and brakes. But, be aware that if you spring for the custom color (orbea won't charge you any extra for that), the lead times are quite long. I was promised to get mine withing 4 to 6 weeks, but it took close to 4 months.

Daaaaaaaamn. That’s almost a deal breaker right there for me. That’s brutal.

Well I'm not riding anytime soon...so I'll be able to get a bike fit at the end of August and then make that decision...anyone know of places that make vinyl for bikes in Phoenix if I go with something else?

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.