I love it..... I accept the ban and won’t fight it but it really wasn’t on purpose it must have been supplement contamination.

If I’m innocent, and this is my career I’m gonna fight like hell before I take a 3+ year ban.

I hope he has another career.

GW501516 also causes cancer of multiple organs so if that was in his supps then maybe he should go after them.

I think the reduction is uncalled for. No basis for the claim, but a claim is good enough?

I don't disagree with this statement at all, but I would suspect the reduction was partially because he fessed up immediately (even if said admission was qualified by said lame excuse), and didn't bother turning it into an expensive, long and drawn out process as many others do.

Given that at best he was 4th or 5th on the Mexican depth chart in terms of getting race starts at that level, I suspect that this will likely spell the end of his career... Because of the 3.5 year lay-off, and likely being too radioactive for many sponsors to touch, his prospects of a return are pretty bleak.

I think you're right. It's worth a lot to the authorities for the athlete to, essentially, plea guilty. He did it and saved them a lot of time, money, and controversy. 6 months was a fair price for that.

It's gotta be the B-Vitamins...it has too...lol. If it was from a reputable source, that stuff is tested in almost every batch at least the stateside stuff.

What he got a reduction for was pleading guilt, not because he thinks it was contaminated.

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Mexican ITU athlete David Mendoza


He's a foreign athlete so he's guilty. No chance of error, contamination, not having a TUE etc, etc.

Don’t forget that he doesn’t own a clothing company within the sport.

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He isn't an Olympic medalist, so nope, sorry, we don't cover yours up.

You do know what pink text means, right?

Fair point (although there are plenty of "stateside stuff" that is also just as sketchy). This is why the conventional recommendation that you will get from any NF will be to not take supplements... If you do, you are A responsible for goes in your body, and B should be looking at the more established and reputable brands (and those with certifications that they clean for sports, and have at least gone through basic testing of their production facilities)... For example,. Triathlon Canada recently published this: https://www.triathloncanada.com/...N-SUPPLEMENT-USE.pdf as guidance for their athletes, coaches, etc.

This is also why if athletes are taking supplements, or even sports nutrition products, the current advice is to record batch numbers off the packaging (or production dates), and to save at least one serving/dose when you finish a package for a couple of weeks after you finish it, just in case you do get caught, so that you have something from the batch you used to send to the lab...

How would this even end up as contamination in a supplement in the first place?

Being cancerous it has no drug approval for any use what so ever so its not like there was a medication production line set up for this, and its not a compound that magically builds when you synthesize some vitamins or mix some calcium and amino acids carelessly together. So unless you buy your supps from an illegal underground chemical lab I don't see how this sort of stuff could even end up in whatever contaminated crap you're taking?

Google USP labs liver deaths

It is a big brand used to be the number one brand at GNC. It happens

Taking a cancerous substance to finish 33rd in a race....f* that s*.

Not like it was a Kona slot at stake.

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As with most things, there is quite a lot more to the story. The one study that found Cardarine caused cancer used insanely high dosages. At lower doses the drug is actually being researched as a cancer prevention med.

I'm not advocating the use of the drug or doping. Just saying everyone jumps on the "it causes cancer" bandwagon without actually looking into medical research.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...articles/PMC5614479/

When I looked this up I read pretty much only the wikipedia article on it. It cites however two articles on studies that showed that this caused massive cancer in multiple organs of rats and mice in a dosage of 3mg/kg/day. Thats about 150mg per day for an athletic women. I'm sure thats a lot more than you need to see doping effects but is this an insanely high dosage?

Yeah, that's super high for this med. There is no known therapeutic dose chart but....a quick trip over to the steroid forums and I saw that many of those guys recommend taking 15-20 mg per day max. No science behind that at all. Just making the point that the doses for the cancer causing claim are very high.

That's my point. I'm talking about supplements that have NSF/GMP, Informed Choice, and Informed Sport stamps on them. I don't touch anything unless it has those.

http://www.nsf.org/services/by-industry/nutritional-products/dietary-supplements-gmp-registration

http://informed-choice.org/

http://www.informed-sport.com/

There's also US Pharmocopeia but that tends to be centered more on your herbal (ie bullshit) supplements. http://www.usp.org/

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