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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [eb] [ In reply to ]
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eb wrote:
Alaska is a socialist-libertarian utopia. We vote Red, except when we elect independents. We don't want any government in our lives, but don't you dare try to touch our Permanent Fund Dividends.

Fascinating.
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [Harbinger] [ In reply to ]
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Harbinger wrote:
eb wrote:
Alaska is a socialist-libertarian utopia. We vote Red, except when we elect independents. We don't want any government in our lives, but don't you dare try to touch our Permanent Fund Dividends.


Fascinating.

Personally, I don't know how they live with the schizophrenia... ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Personally, I don't know how they live with the schizophrenia... ;-)
Very nicely, thank you your concern. The top 10 states most dependent on government include Mississippi, West Virginia, Arkansas, Rhode Island, New Mexico, and Wyoming and Vermont.
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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I just wish the CA folks would stop moving to CO.
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [oldandslow] [ In reply to ]
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oldandslow wrote:
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Personally, I don't know how they live with the schizophrenia... ;-)

Very nicely, thank you your concern. The top 10 states most dependent on government include Mississippi, West Virginia, Arkansas, Rhode Island, New Mexico, and Wyoming and Vermont.

I lived in Newport, RI a long time ago. Thought the place (and the state) was fantastic. I could maybe see living in Wyoming and Vermont, but that's about it. It'll probably be Texas or Arizona for us when it comes to permanent retirement.

Hawaii -- where I still own a home -- is just too damn expensive even if you shop on base. We'll sell the house to fund an even better retirement, looks like to me. But Michigan? Uh-uh.

And forget California (where I've lived), too. Taxes (including on our military pensions). Virginia (also lived there)? Taxes (including military pensions). Florida? No thanks. Too much Florida Man down that way. Tennessee's intriguing, and my mother's family on her mother's side is from down there (Clarksville area). I'm holding out for Idaho or Montana (I could build a great tar paper shack ;-), but I can't convince the spousal unit that those are viable places for retirement. She hates Washington and Oregon, too, before you ask.

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [Perseus] [ In reply to ]
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Perseus wrote:
I just wish the CA folks would stop moving to CO.

ditto.
they've done eff'd up austin. enjoy what you have now...it'll be gone soon.

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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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What is the average age of those fleeing?

For Tennessee it’s a mix of ages. All ages in Middle TN due to Nashville’s very hot job market. Lots of retirees moving to BFE TN due to low property taxes. I was considering moving to our Austin office but nixed that when I saw that I’d get nowhere near the fabulous house (3100 sq feet within the urban core that has doubled in value in less than 5 years) in Austin plus I’d be paying 3 times the property taxes.

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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [Harbinger] [ In reply to ]
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Harbinger wrote:
eb wrote:
Alaska is a socialist-libertarian utopia. We vote Red, except when we elect independents. We don't want any government in our lives, but don't you dare try to touch our Permanent Fund Dividends.


Fascinating.

I should clarify - the state votes Red as in Republican, not as in "Better dead than Red".

Funny how the meaning of that word has changed.
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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If the feds didn't transfer blue state wealth to red states via the federal taxes, blue state taxes would be a lot lower. We need to end the red state culture of dependency.

“Read the transcript.”
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [sslothrop] [ In reply to ]
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sslothrop wrote:
If the feds didn't transfer blue state wealth to red states via the federal taxes, blue state taxes would be a lot lower. We need to end the red state culture of dependency.
Alabama, Mississippi and Kentucky, and others adamantly disagree with you. They want LESS government interference and MORE federal dollars.
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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The more interesting bits:
ALL states have positive net migration - in 2016, every single state has at least 3000 more people that were born in a different state than in 2015. Every state had at least 800 more population than in 2015.


Mass grew the 17th fastest. It's not a low tax state. It grew faster than 3 of the 5 "low tax states" (AK, NH, DE)
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [adambeston] [ In reply to ]
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Lived in Elkton MD for a year right there. Honestly surprised by the high quality riding there. Drug use was off the charts though and didn't care for pretty much anything else out there.

I lived in the area for about 15 years, mostly Newark, DE, a year or two up in Stricklersville, PA and then bought a townhouse in Elkton and lived for a few years. The riding around there is great, as long as you go west and north. Lots of small back roads with little to no traffic, main roads often have nice shoulders. Good climbs over by the Schulkyll River (sp?). And the mountain biking was great, several really good areas with nice trails. Definitely the best area for cycling I've ever lived.
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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scorpio516 wrote:
The more interesting bits:
ALL states have positive net migration - in 2016, every single state has at least 3000 more people that were born in a different state than in 2015. Every state had at least 800 more population than in 2015.


Mass grew the 17th fastest. It's not a low tax state. It grew faster than 3 of the 5 "low tax states" (AK, NH, DE)

The only place I'm interested in moving to right now is anyplace that has this place. ;-)



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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [Perseus] [ In reply to ]
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Perseus wrote:
I just wish the CA folks would stop moving to CO.

We’re getting hit from both sides. CAs fleeing high taxes/ expenses and people fleeing Kansas and Oklahoma from the effects of too low taxes on the schools and environment.
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Re: Americans Fleeing High-Tax States in Droves for Lower-Tax States [Moonrocket] [ In reply to ]
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Perseus wrote:
I just wish the CA folks would stop moving to CO.


We’re getting hit from both sides. CAs fleeing high taxes/ expenses and people fleeing Kansas and Oklahoma from the effects of too low taxes on the schools and environment.

Nothing but one big city from Fort Collins to the Springs. Fountain to Trinidad is still sparse but I did read people are buying up smaller homes in Walsenburg. Western slope hasn't changed much. Still lot's of nice places in CO but the front range has sure changed over the past 40 years - and not for the good.
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