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Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant
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Remember the prof from OCC who ranted in class about Trump and stating the election was an act of terrorism? Well, drive up the freeway a bit and you’ll run into this HS teacher. Seems a theme in academia, particularly in CA for some reason. My girls heard similar rants in HS here in SoCal, unfortunately. I grew up on a military base in CA so, obviously, never witnessed this BS first hand.

Perhaps it has always been this way?

http://fxn.ws/2DJT9aT
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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Like Fred Phelps does not represent Christians this nut does not represent Liberals, he's just a loon who needs to fired.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [50+] [ In reply to ]
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He certainly does not represent all liberals - actually none that I know personally (in SoCal basically everyone). I will also state that here in CA the teachers union will go to the ends of the earth to protect douchebags like this one.

I recall a teacher (again in CA) who was...ummm...ejaculating on crackers and feeding to kiddos in class. The union spent something like $80m protecting the guy and his pension.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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JD21 wrote:
He certainly does not represent all liberals - actually none that I know personally (in SoCal basically everyone). I will also state that here in CA the teachers union will go to the ends of the earth to protect douchebags like this one.

I recall a teacher (again in CA) who was...ummm...ejaculating on crackers and feeding to kiddos in class. The union spent something like $80m protecting the guy and his pension.

Because they are legally obligated to? Or because they supported his right to do it? Something else?

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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [veganerd] [ In reply to ]
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I don’t know if they’re legally obligated to do so but I don’t believe that’s the case. I’m sure the LR lawyers will chime in. I would expect union members want to see the union going to the ends of the earth for their members so they feel their dues are of value if they’re in real trouble.

The teachers union in CA basically control the legislature having bought and paid for most of them. We shall see what happens to this particular teacher.

I’ve also never been in a union so have no first hand experience.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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I don’t know if they’re legally obligated to do so but I don’t believe that’s the case. I’m sure the LR lawyers will chime in. I would expect union members want to see the union going to the ends of the earth for their members so they feel their dues are of value if they’re in real trouble.

I think both are true. They certainly arent mutually exclusive at any rate.

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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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This is so messed up. The guy graduates from his high school, goes to college and then gets a job at his old high school? Then he's caught on film hating the military? I think we have found this weeks award for employee most likely to quit by Wednesday.

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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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Not a lawyer, but my wife runs a nursing unit. The nurses union is one of the strongest in the province.

The length the union goes through to protect nurses who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near patients is insane. You would basically have to willfully kill somebody to get fired.

I hear tons of stories about nurses who constantly display sub-standard and even dangerous behavior. When in a disciplinary meeting with management, the nurse and a union rep what usually happens is the union claims the nurse acted in such manner due to lack of training (which is BS) so the offending employee gets paid to take retraining classes (paid for by taxpayers) and the unit is short staffed so they have to pay other nurses OT. Basically a slap on the wrist and the nursing unit gets punished instead.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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Same with teacher son Ontario. Union will fight for pretty much anyone.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
Same with teacher son Ontario. Union will fight for pretty much anyone.

Correct. Unions have a legal obligation to represent their members. But, that has legal limits. Legally, the union must bring the grievance up to arbitration. Legally, once it goes to arbitration, the union controls it, not the member. Legally, if it goes to an individual lawsuit, the union has no obligation to defend. (With some exceptions).

Now, that's what the law says. What you said above it what happens in reality. It is all about optics. The union has to show it provided invaluable service to its members in order to justify union dues.

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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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JD21 wrote:
He certainly does not represent all liberals - actually none that I know personally (in SoCal basically everyone). I will also state that here in CA the teachers union will go to the ends of the earth to protect douchebags like this one.

I recall a teacher (again in CA) who was...ummm...ejaculating on crackers and feeding to kiddos in class. The union spent something like $80m protecting the guy and his pension.

Google fu tells me you are talking about Mark Berndt. And that is not how the story went. http://www.laweekly.com/...0-000-payoff-2173991

They settled and let him quit which let him keep his pension in order to get him out immediately and not get in the way of the police investigation. And that investigation ended in a 25 year sentence.

Blaming the teachers union for that result is misguided.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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JD21 wrote:
Remember the prof from OCC who ranted in class about Trump and stating the election was an act of terrorism? Well, drive up the freeway a bit and you’ll run into this HS teacher. Seems a theme in academia, particularly in CA for some reason. My girls heard similar rants in HS here in SoCal, unfortunately. I grew up on a military base in CA so, obviously, never witnessed this BS first hand.

Perhaps it has always been this way?

http://fxn.ws/2DJT9aT

OK, the guy doesn't like the military and is way over the top with his comments. But you're taking two examples and questioning the sanity of all of academia and all of SoCal? I also grew up on or around military bases and do remember a lot of anti military sentiment as it was around the time of the Viet Nam war when there was a lot of anti military sentiment within the general public. I doubt if the guy will be fired although he might get his wrist slapped. AFAIK, he hasn't broken any laws, but hopefully he might rethink what he said and make a public apology.
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cerveloguy wrote:
JD21 wrote:
Remember the prof from OCC who ranted in class about Trump and stating the election was an act of terrorism? Well, drive up the freeway a bit and you’ll run into this HS teacher. Seems a theme in academia, particularly in CA for some reason. My girls heard similar rants in HS here in SoCal, unfortunately. I grew up on a military base in CA so, obviously, never witnessed this BS first hand.

Perhaps it has always been this way?

http://fxn.ws/2DJT9aT


OK, the guy doesn't like the military and is way over the top with his comments. But you're taking two examples and questioning the sanity of all of academia and all of SoCal? I also grew up on or around military bases and do remember a lot of anti military sentiment as it was around the time of the Viet Nam war when there was a lot of anti military sentiment within the general public. I doubt if the guy will be fired although he might get his wrist slapped. AFAIK, he hasn't broken any laws, but hopefully he might rethink what he said and make a public apology.
Questioned the "sanity" of all academia and all of SoCal? You drew that conclusion from what statement? Or maybe exaggeration is being used as a deliberate argumentative "device"?

Comparing the anti-war sentiment of teh Vietnam era is a little iffy. It's a different world today.

I agree, academia is pretty "uniform" in their dislike of the military. The two are very foreign to each other, which kinda breeds distrust under the best of conditions. Much of Academia, particularly the soft sciences, it seems to me, is kinda distant from many aspects of the real world. They have funny ideas re. what's important. Their comfort and safety to have those funny ideas, having been provided by the hard chargers they think poorly of.

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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [RangerGress] [ In reply to ]
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That high school should teach Rudyard Kipling's "Tommy" in all of its English classes.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [RangerGress] [ In reply to ]
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RangerGress wrote:
I agree, academia is pretty "uniform" in their dislike of the military.

As someone who actually works in academia I don't find that to be the case at all. Where I work goes out of it's way to acknowledge military members or ex members at most any public event. There are dedicated groups and areas for them as well. Not to mention some of the faculty are ex-military. Taking the outrageous examples, which you hear about because they are outrageous, as typical is misguided.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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ThisIsIt wrote:
RangerGress wrote:
I agree, academia is pretty "uniform" in their dislike of the military.


As someone who actually works in academia I don't find that to be the case at all. Where I work goes out of it's way to acknowledge military members or ex members at most any public event. There are dedicated groups and areas for them as well. Not to mention some of the faculty are ex-military. Taking the outrageous examples, which you hear about because they are outrageous, as typical is misguided.

I'm surprised to hear that. I acknowledge that you're in a better place to know than I. As a contrasting example, It was only in the last couple years that some universities, several of them elite and therefore very influential, allowed ROTC back on campus. Those same universities in WW1 and 2 were practically depopulated when the wars broke out because the guys left to join the military. Sure, the situations are different, but it's still quite a contrast.

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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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ThisIsIt wrote:
RangerGress wrote:
I agree, academia is pretty "uniform" in their dislike of the military.

As someone who actually works in academia I don't find that to be the case at all. Where I work goes out of it's way to acknowledge military members or ex members at most any public event. There are dedicated groups and areas for them as well. Not to mention some of the faculty are ex-military. Taking the outrageous examples, which you hear about because they are outrageous, as typical is misguided.

It's "cool" to acknowledge it honor the military these days, there is still a lot of remembered shame from how the country and in particular the left treated service members after returning from Vietnam. There are still pockets of those who are a bit tone deaf and blame the warriors for the war however. Those pockets will unfortunately grow in my opinion as our no nothing snowflakes progress into careers.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [vecchia capra] [ In reply to ]
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vecchia capra wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
RangerGress wrote:
I agree, academia is pretty "uniform" in their dislike of the military.


As someone who actually works in academia I don't find that to be the case at all. Where I work goes out of it's way to acknowledge military members or ex members at most any public event. There are dedicated groups and areas for them as well. Not to mention some of the faculty are ex-military. Taking the outrageous examples, which you hear about because they are outrageous, as typical is misguided.


It's "cool" to acknowledge it honor the military these days, there is still a lot of remembered shame from how the country and in particular the left treated service members after returning from Vietnam. There are still pockets of those who are a bit tone deaf and blame the warriors for the war however. Those pockets will unfortunately grow in my opinion as our no nothing snowflakes progress into careers.


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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [davetallo] [ In reply to ]
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'know-nothing.'


Ha!! Now that is phunny....
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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And academia has completely sheltered him from any repercussions.

Oh wait, no it hasn't.

https://www.msn.com/...r-BBItpg6?li=BBnb7Kz


Gregory Salcido, the El Rancho High School teacher who’s also a Pico Rivera city councilman, will not be able to enter the classroom while school officials conduct an investigation into the recording, the Whittier Daily News reported late Monday.
“One thing we are telling people for sure is that the commitment of the board and the superintendent and the staff is to really get to the bottom of this for the community,” School Superintendent Karling Aguilera-Fort told the paper.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [axlsix3] [ In reply to ]
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This was a big topic on talk radio this morning. Glad to see him go - and he continues to stand behind his statements about the military.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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From the article...

'He apologized, but also reiterated, more diplomatically, what he said in the classroom: that he thinks students with lower academic standing typically end up in the military.
"I don't think it's all a revelation to anybody that those who aren't stellar students usually find the military a better option ... that's not a criticism of anybody. Anything I said had nothing to do with their moral character," he said.'

My high school friends who joined the military fell into these categories: not enough money for college, wanted to serve their country, didn't know what to do next and didn't want to go to college or work, continue a family tradition. None of them were in lower academic standing. That's just my n + 1.
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [JD21] [ In reply to ]
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“knew what he signed up for”

“He’s not a war hero, He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
In the next few days, would suggest Khan’s mother remained silent during the DNC speech because, as a Muslim wife, she “wasn't allowed to have anything to say.” He contended that he, too, had made sacrifices because he “created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures.” One of his advisers spread a baseless conspiracy theory that Khizr Khan is a “Muslim Brotherhood agent.”
“I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier,” he said.
It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”
spent the first few months of 2016 claiming he sent nearly $6 million to veterans groups nationwide, but Washington Post reporter David Fahrenthold couldn’t find any evidence of any donations.

“Read the transcript.”
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Re: Another SoCal Liberal Teacher Rant [sslothrop] [ In reply to ]
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It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

He was referring to dodging STDs, if I recall correctly, and judging from Stormy Daniels' polygraph-backed revelation about his unprotected sex with a porn star, it seems his bravery stayed with him well into his 60s.

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