sorry, just got a Lucero in the mail today and I have to say it's gorgeous but no seduza. the frame design sure is nice though and it's scary light. Sexy fork and seat stays.

So are you flicking the P3 SL?

no the QR is for a friend, I'm helping her build it up. She actually borrowed a p3sl for a couple of weeks and loved it but is so used to her carbon Kestrel 200ems that she wanted another carbon bike. Choice came down to aesthetics in the end, she liked the Lucero a lot better and we got a great deal on it as well. I'm keeping my P3sl for a while. I may upgrade next year but it'll be based on the cool factor rather than performance as I think the P3sl is a rocket.

This dropped a bit too quickly before anyone who actually acquired a Seduza could post. So... BUMP.

No Seduza's have been delivered to dealers yet that I am aware of.

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Tom Demerly
The Tri Shop.com

[reply]No Seduzas have been delivered to dealers yet that I am aware of.[/reply]
R&A claims they have them in stock. I think trisports.com does, too.

Seduza? Who wants a Seduza?!

Caliente, the hottest bike for 2006. PERIOD.

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Caliente is just a Seduza with race wheels and a slightly up-spec component group. If you already have a set of race wheels (or don't like the colour of the Caliente), then the Seduza is probably a better economic choice.

RACycles in Brooklyn has both the Seduza and Caliente in stock (what don't they have in stock?).

Must be subjective on my part, but I thought both bikes were rather heavy for full carbon--so much so that I didn't even try one.

What type of warranty do the carbon fiber QR bikes have?

Bike Warranty.

• Titanium: Lifetime warranty against manufacturer defects and workmanship.
• Lucero: Lifetime warranty against manufacturer defects and workmanship.
• Aluminum: 3-year warranty against manufacturer defects and workmanship.

QR Titanium frames (Ti-phoon, PicanTi, Santo) feature a lifetime warranty against manufacturer defects and workmanship to the original owner of these frames. QR Aluminum bikes feature a 3-year limited warranty on the frames, and a one year warranty on parts.

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Team Endurance Nation

"Must be subjective on my part, but I thought both bikes were rather heavy for full carbon--so much so that I didn't even try one. "

Could be subjective on your part. The frame weight of the Seduza and Caliente is listed on QR website as having the same weight as the Lucero. I find my Lucero to be somewhat lighter compared to the Cervelo P3 I owned and the QR Tiphoon that I still own. Now obviously the component build will make a difference in the weights of the 3 models. Interestingly, my Ultegra 10 Lucero with DA cranks and Hed Alps weighs less than my full DA 10 P3 with Hed Alps. Bottom line is the Lucero is a fine bike. I'd be curious to know how it stacks up against the P3C in terms of overall weight. I wouldn't let weight be a determining factor though in the selection of a bike.

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Team Endurance Nation

R&A Cycles has Seduzas AND Calientes in stock- Mediums I believe, and not jsut one or two either but a good amount.

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Jason Goldberg
FIT Multisports

trisports.com has at least one caliente ( I rode it) and at least one Seduza in stock as of last thursday

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