That's why you're not a millionaire, you dummy. You give away all your best ideas!

Not a bad idea. How much breaking down of the bike would you be able to get away with before it became a hassle and unusable?

Having it double as a plane case would be great, but it would be very difficult to fit the airline size requiremnts.

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Striving to have sex more than 66 times per year

You're boned now dude. Yakima and Thule are watching. ;)

Actually if you could bring it to market for less than 400, you'd have them both over a barrel. You can't touch either Thule or Yakima for less.

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Wheels had to go of, probably, nothing more.

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Bent Olav Olsen, recreational triathlete?

Wheels to go in the box also, or inside the vehicle?

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Striving to have sex more than 66 times per year

Inside the car? For me that would do the trick. And I think that it is possible to have your wheels sent seperately, or you could have them with you inside the cabin while flying?

I just hate the thought of my new Guru trilite on the top of the car!

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Bent Olav Olsen, recreational triathlete?

Ummm...you haven't looked very hard.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=973&subcategory_ID=4415

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=117&subcategory_ID=4415

Packasport makes one. I was going to post a link and pic, but their website is under construction. www.packasport.com. I think it holds 2 bikes, but you need a monster truck, like a suburban. Guzzle, guzzle, guzzle.

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Good call Terry! The only negative there would be for people who have no racks on their roofs...

Speaking of gas guzzling SUV's...scary story about energy crisis looming:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7203633

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Nope, I have not, just started to think about it while walking the dog two hours ago :-) Thanks, that was close to what I wanted, but it looked like a little trouble to make the bike fit into that box? And no straps or anything to secure the parts from bouncing and sliding? Is it OK?

One could allways go for big ski box I guess. A bike would probably fit into that. And another box for planes.

And I have no monster truck. Not at all. That's the problem.

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Bent Olav Olsen, recreational triathlete?

thule makes one...

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Geoffrey Nenninger

The parts/frame don't bounce around because they are all sandiwched between foam sheets, just like a TriCo Ironcase. The main reason cases for on top of the car like these are not too popular is because they'd be really awkward to get up there with a bike in there, OR becasue it'd be awkward to get a bike in the case if the case was already up there. Probably a neat invention would be a hitch-mounted bike box for the rear of vehicles. Keep them nice and dry and clean and more aero that way too.

Thanks for the link to that story from Rolling Stone. It was a great read. I know that there are conservitives out there that say phoooey to all this talk, but the next 50 years or so are going to be very interesting indeed.

North American oil and gas consumption is out of control. Try an imagine a world where India and China consumed oil and gas the way we do in North America. Scary.

The price of gas keeps creeping up but it has still not changed behaviour at all. People are still buying huge cars/trucks. People are still driving at excessive speeds. People are still buying houses hours away from where they work and driving back and forth every day. It will be interesting to see at what point the price of gas starts to impact these behaviours.

Fleck

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Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog

Olav, this is the Elite box at I bought in 2002, it's very compact and yet large enough to have gotten UKGearMuncher's Large Giant Composite and all associated parts in. I have used it all over Europe , Brazil and the US and Canada with no problems. I know it is readily available in uk and Europe so I guess you could easily obtain it. The only advice I would give is to take the supplied foam sheet to an upholstery shop and get any extra one cut to keep the frame away from the top of the box, I did and it only cost £6 shaped to the original's outline.

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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

The performance box looks as if it comes out of the same factory as the Elite travel case with each companies logo being the major difference. I have found it very easy to travel with by air and have not as yet paid for it to come with me, of course this is dependent on which airline you travel with. BA and Virgin allow it to be part of your weight allowance, I understand the US airlines are not as accommodating.

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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

Sure do. Take my Renn, crosswind front and a spare front packed VERY carefully with the frame.

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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

Thank you. Eilte or performance it will be then.

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Bent Olav Olsen, recreational triathlete?

How are the wheels on the box? I have been using a bag but find my shoulders are almost dropping off after 5mins and they feel sore of a day or too - not great prep for a race! I did try a vk strong box but the wheels were not very good.

You are most welcome.

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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

It fits nicely in the back of one of the newer Jeeps, the one that looks like a London Metrocab, with the rounded bonnet and lights. Sorry I don't know the model but I am not an SUV fan. It also fits in the back of an 87 VW Golf with the backseat down no problem.

If there are two of you with the same type of box you can have two in the back of an estate no problem.

Sorry, I have no other American cars that I can comment on. Get Tom D to answer, it was Mike Aderhold's Jeep.

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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

Aside from a squeek from one that is solved with a little oil, I have found them robust and no problem as yet. I seem to recall reading somewhere that they are replaceable.

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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS