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Once's Prologue frame
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Many pictures of Joseba Beloki during the prologue on Cyclingnews. I have not seen this time trial frame before. Pretty cool. Is this a new carbon mold? Any info appreciated.
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [df] [ In reply to ]
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obviously not your consumer version TCR
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe its an Isaac?? Looks similar to the website photos someone else posted.
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, not so much, after watching more closely on the evening coverage. Beats me.
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Here's the New Once TT bike: It looks like something completely new. Pretty sweet, I think.

MH

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Last edited by: fredly: Jul 9, 03 22:57
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Eurosports Info is that there are only 100 of these [ In reply to ]
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frames in existence and that they were made specifically and only for the ONCE team? true or false I know not but the lady said they'd talked to Beloki and Manolo and that is what they were told.
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Daannnngggg! [ In reply to ]
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Ahhh, chalk up another one for my dream bike list.
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Warn me next time you post a photo like that! They frown on pornography around here!
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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It looks like the Campy disc has a AL rim, it it just a Campy labeled HED to go with the HED3?
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [efernand] [ In reply to ]
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Good call - that is certainly not a current available Campy disk wheel...maybe it is something new? (Probably a Hed though)

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What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [Record9ti] [ In reply to ]
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We need some more/different pictures to see if it has HEDs lenticular shape.
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [Record9ti] [ In reply to ]
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What gives it away that it is not the Campy Gibli just painted gold? They have ridden that disc for years and I certainly can't imagine they would exchange it out for a HED.
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [df] [ In reply to ]
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I just checked the Campy web site and it looks like the Ghibli does have an aluminum rim, my bad.
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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One thing is for sure. Spending the kind of $$$$$$ ONCE has on developing and equipping this bike is evidence of how serious they are about their TDF and winning the TTT. It was one thing in the days where one guy on a team would have the crazy-expensive exotic TT machine. Sainz and ONCE put the whole team on these bikes! You don't make that kind of effort if you aren't looking to win. I'd love to see the huge $ tallies on each team's bike stables. I'd bet ONCE would lead the way between this and their new road bikes.
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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Assuming this is a new Giant bike frame, Once didn't pay anything for them: rather, they are paid by the manufacturer to ride them - ditto the road frames.

At this level, the teams are paid -cash, money- for ANYTHING that has a logo on it.

Does this mean Once doesn't invest in TT equipment? Heck, no. They have a long established record as being one of the few Euro teams who give thought to this aspect of the sport on a team wide, systemic basis. But anything they actually buy has either no logo on it or is re-badged with a sponsors name. Note that the H3s on the bike say Once on them, ditto for the ADAs on the climbing bikes.

What this means is that a team like Bianchi, with it's re-badged Walsers, probably paid for their bikes, just like Once paid for the H3s. That being said, you can be sure that Bianchi is ultimately picking up the tab for the Walsers - they say Bianchi on them.

The very reason Once is attractive to a sponsor like Giant is their openness to new technology, and the benefit they reap is that they get paid to use the latest in bike tech, while some other teams have to buy it and re-badge it.

MH

Formerly at Diamondback Bikes, LeMond Fitness, FSA, TiCycles, etc.
Coaching and bike fit - http://source-e.net/ Cyclocross blog - https://crosssports.net/
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [fredly] [ In reply to ]
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Of couse I know ONCE the company or ONCE the team didn't pay for them. I wasn't speaking of ONCE the company or team so much as the ONCE cycling effort at large. Somebody paid for the development of those bikes and they put that time, $, and effort into ONCE. If it was all Giant in house development, the fact still remains that they put that kind of effort into that team. It adds up to a huge investment, largely orchestrated by Manolo Sainz, that screams "We're in this to win. Period."
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [df] [ In reply to ]
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interesting how the front brakes are behind the fork. I wonder what the aero benefit is
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [df] [ In reply to ]
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I'm curious about the "stem" on this bike. Looks like it would be useful for any bike where the head tube is too tall and you need to get the front end down a bit. Any idea who makes it?
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [jkatsoudas] [ In reply to ]
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I do not know who made that "stem" but when i was building frames and stems i made a few that dropped like this,Greg Lemond used one like it years ago,they work for the reasons you talked about.Randall
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Re: Once's Prologue frame [randall t] [ In reply to ]
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The stem appears to be the Giant adjustable stem that they haave been making for several years. It pivots just in front of the heatube mount so that you can adjust height. Once has been using them on their TT bikes for several years.

MH

Formerly at Diamondback Bikes, LeMond Fitness, FSA, TiCycles, etc.
Coaching and bike fit - http://source-e.net/ Cyclocross blog - https://crosssports.net/
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