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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [5280]
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Interesting stuff.
I am no expert, but it would appear that Lance would be one of those cyclists that REALLY benefits from the use of an aero-bar set up. I don't have any pictures or data to compare, but I would say at least from looks, Chris Boardman was much more aero on his set up in on a standard road/track bike than Lance is from these pictures here.
Fleck
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
I am no expert, but it would appear that Lance would be one of those cyclists that REALLY benefits from the use of an aero-bar set up. I don't have any pictures or data to compare, but I would say at least from looks, Chris Boardman was much more aero on his set up in on a standard road/track bike than Lance is from these pictures here.
Fleck
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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [Fleck]
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Yeah, not sure. It did say that they didn't really intend to prep for the attempt as much as get some figures to present to Lance. I got the impression that they are still just playing with the idea and that #7 is where all the energy is now. If he goes for this it seems like it would be more of something to just to do since he has done the other things on his list?
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [5280]
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Does that guy seem to have freakishly long femur bones or what??????
Tom Demerly
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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [Tom Demerly]
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This is what I call freakishly long femur
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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [5280]
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Yes indeed, Carmichael acknowledged that 7 is the priority. I guess the hour is on the "to do list" for all cyclists who want a legacy.
What surprises me is that, if they're so interested in studying the effect of airflow in different track positions, why did they have Armstrong wear an aero helmet? This changes considerably the way the air flows down his back. For the "athlete's hour", in which Armstrong appears to be interested, the UCI rules say something to the effect that you have to go out and buy a $15 none-aero helmet, full of holes, preferably in pink or lime green. I know he wore the aero for the TT-bike test earlier, but you'd have thought, since he's not going for the superman-position record ('cos he probably couldn't get it) that he might have got another helmet.
What surprises me is that, if they're so interested in studying the effect of airflow in different track positions, why did they have Armstrong wear an aero helmet? This changes considerably the way the air flows down his back. For the "athlete's hour", in which Armstrong appears to be interested, the UCI rules say something to the effect that you have to go out and buy a $15 none-aero helmet, full of holes, preferably in pink or lime green. I know he wore the aero for the TT-bike test earlier, but you'd have thought, since he's not going for the superman-position record ('cos he probably couldn't get it) that he might have got another helmet.
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [5280]
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How cool and pure is that?... Armstrong on a track bike.
FWIW, that's Charmichael's site, so take ANYTHING you read/see there lightly. Dude is, for lack of a better term, so "retail."
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FWIW, that's Charmichael's site, so take ANYTHING you read/see there lightly. Dude is, for lack of a better term, so "retail."
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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [BigBloke]
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Don't care how fit Lance is, if that is his "aero position" he ain't going to be celebrating anything. That looks more like a " I just won a Rainbow Jersey" position. Looks to me like the bars need to go down a lot. But then I am about 6 yellows and a Rainbow jersey behind him. G
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [Aztec]
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true, he definitely has an advanced degree in pr and marketing :)
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [5280]
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Here's an article that Boardman wrote about positioning for his hour record and adapting to the position. It's a good read.
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/...11_positioning.shtml
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/...chris%20boardman.jpg
Looks like Lance has some work to do.
greg
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/...11_positioning.shtml
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/...chris%20boardman.jpg
Looks like Lance has some work to do.
greg
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [yawg]
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How would Boardman knows anything - he is not riding steep. I much prefer Slowman over Boardman.
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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [yawg]
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Thanks for this.
Boardman had great positioning regardless how he was set up and what bike he was riding. I suspect that he got great drag numbers even on the track bike with regular bars.
As I said earlier, Lance is the type of rider, that really benefits from the use of aerobars. His regular road positioning is not that aero. Works for him, obviously( I'm not going to argue with 6 TdF wins), but on his own into the wind, it's not as good as Boardman's or others.
Fleck
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Boardman had great positioning regardless how he was set up and what bike he was riding. I suspect that he got great drag numbers even on the track bike with regular bars.
As I said earlier, Lance is the type of rider, that really benefits from the use of aerobars. His regular road positioning is not that aero. Works for him, obviously( I'm not going to argue with 6 TdF wins), but on his own into the wind, it's not as good as Boardman's or others.
Fleck
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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [baruch spinoza]
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duh - have you heard of zee UCI???
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [baruch spinoza]
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THAT>>>>>> is cool!
Tom Demerly
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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [Fleck]
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I'm pretty sure that an aero bar setup is *not* allowed for the hour record attempt. Have to do it just like Merckx did it.
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [5280]
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The hour record on a Trek Madone?
Hah! That's a good one. he he he.
Hah! That's a good one. he he he.
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [baruch spinoza]
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"How would Boardman knows anything - he is not riding steep."
on the contrary. his lotus was 80 degrees. until it was outlawed.
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on the contrary. his lotus was 80 degrees. until it was outlawed.
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Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [Ze Gopha]
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I don't have one of boardman, but it would look something like this:
Re: Pictures from Lance's hour record wind tunnel test [Ze Gopha]
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That looks really comfy. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Hard to tell, but isn't that Boardman?
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