I keep seeing how pretty this bike is and nobody posts a pic!

Based on my initial impressions the Lucero is a much nicer bike than a Kestrel or a Kuota. The cable routing can be cantancerous though- don't loose the guide cable or you will be in for a bit of a chore.

Ride quality is very good- Francois did a good job of characterizing it. The bottom brackets on the ones we got needed lots of prepping- the threads were fully sketch. They strightened right out when we ran the BB thread prep tool in there.

It's only 8 degrees here so obviously I have no miles on these bikes, but they are very nice as far as initial impression goes.

I do wish they would have been more creative and current with the graphics. For a bike of this caliber, the graphics don't do it justice. I think they are way too quiet. That said, they probably won't put anybody off. They just strike me as boring. It's like dressing Anna Kournikova in sweats. With a bod like the Lucero sistah gotta work it!

They should have hired the Felt graphics kid to do it and given him a bag of Dorritos and some chronic to knock out a current looking design motif. Also, this would have been the obvious transition point from word names to "letter,letter, number,number" names and a change of head badge or logo appearance, which QR is long overdue for in my opinion.

"Lucero" is a nice name, but "T70" or "TC1" would have opened up a world of additional graphic and marketing avenues and takes a cue from BMW (735il) and fighter plane vernacular like "F-15". Considering it is a predominantly male customership that type of identity plays well.

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Tom Demerly
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Pretty bike, but too skinny for my taste. ;p

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So does Lucero + P3C = Beginning of the end for Kestrel?

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Andrew

"When will i learn, people do not want to hurt but will spend $500.00 bucks to go four seconds faster." - randall t

Actually, Kestrel discontinuing the KM40 prior to having an actual mass produced replacement (and losing a whole year of sales) might have been the beginning of the end for Kestrel ;-)

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Exactly. That is, I guess, the main reason I posed the question in the first place. It seems their best chance is to get to a wind tunnel and show that their seattubeless design is more aero than the other carbon wannabes, and that they are still the carbon bike design kings. Otherwise, it would seem a tough road for them.

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Andrew

"When will i learn, people do not want to hurt but will spend $500.00 bucks to go four seconds faster." - randall t

What is it about adding SL,GTI or similar to a product makes it more attractive to us men? I bet in caveman times there was a club salesman pedaling clubs with names like clubman mark 2 (new manufacturing techniques have allowed vast improvments on the already classic mark 1), clubman mark 2 sl (12oz lighter than the mark2 but no loss in power), clubman mark 2 sl super 5 (the ultimate in club technology for the more decerning club wealder, perfectly balanced to improved handing charictoristics delivering 5 times more performance.

Once the P3 carbon's been out for a while all Cervelo need to do is remove a few stickers to reduce the weight slightly call it the P3 carbon SL rise the price a bit and everyone (including me) will be drooling after it even more.

add 34D and it has the same effect.

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Tom Demerly
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Search for one of François's recent threads.. (4-6 days ago maybe)

he posted a nice shot of the frame and some sweet close ups of it too.

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