>>>I can see how you have problems with people who are not articulate enough to be on all sides of every issue.
Who's on all sides of every issue?
Not me...my position has been very consistent on this.
But I think I know the sort of double-talking vermin to whom you are referring...pointy-headed nuance-jockeys like Dick Cheney, who said the following in 1991:
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If you're going to go in and try to topple Saddam Hussein,you have to go to Baghdad. Once you've got Baghdad, it's not clear what you do with it. It's not clear what kind of government you would put in place of the one that's currently there now. Is it going to be a Shia regime, a Sunni regime or a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the Baathists, or one that tilts toward the Islamic fundamentalists?
How much credibility is that government going to have if it's set up by the United States military when it's there? How long does the United States military have to stay to protect the people that sign on for that government, and what happens to it once we leave?
You're not going to stand for that sort of flip-floppery, are you Art?
Good thing for us he changed his mind without bothering to answer all them pesky questions.
>>>Some might suggest that dying for the freedom of millions is not dying for nothing.
That's true...they might.
But they would have to have a uniquely broad definition of "freedom", and it would need to include a non-elected government with no power to make or change law, an foreign occupying army of 140k trops, constant carbombs, sporadic assassinations and less electricity, fuel than when the freedom fiesta started.
Add to that a tenfold increase in murder rate, decreased oil production and a total destruction of the medical infrastructure and we've got a strange sort of "freedom" that I doubt you'd enjoy.
And as I've said before, the human toll isn't really what bothers me, it's the money.
That $250B is lost and gone forever...I would think that would a "conservative" like you would be pretty angry about that.
But if I know my Art, he'll somehow take both sides of a President flushing a quarter-trillion of the people's dollars down a hugely-unsuccessful social program for non-citizens with no Congressional oversight.
Have at it, bud!
Sit on that fence...and pat yourself on the back when we get to 1000 around Labor Day.