You gotta wonder how much that takes out of Hassan for the 5000m. Also after she feel and picked herself off the ground in nearly last place I noticed that her knee lift with left leg is less than right leg....or is that always the case.

Would be cool to see her take the triple.

Pretty dumb running through to first when all she needed to qualify was top 6

This is all Alberto Salazar's Magic. The ability for his athletes to win in theoretically incompatible events. In this case, 1500, 5000 and 10000...

Yeah, that was weird to put the effort in to pass that extra cluster of around 4, but maybe she was unable to count how many where in the group? Seems hard to believe, but in the middle of racing, sometimes, your head is not always in the game especially after a fall. She seemed happy enough afterwards.

She just wants it more, trains harder than everyone else. Definitely not Nike sponsored doping, definitely not that. Salazar is a genius! That doctor is just better at spotting under active thyroids that's all. T gel was for him, like Shane Sutton he has a dodgy pecker. For realz!!!!

seems she turned out ok in the 5000 . . .

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Yeah no one even really challenging.

I think it was momentum. And maybe that 43sec last 300m was a good warmup for her 5000m 12 hours later, which she won, with a 57sec last lap.

Um....she's not coached by Salazar anymore, is she?

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

After the much-discussed departure from the suspended Alberto Salazar, the athlete opted for his former assistant Tim Rowberry.

Why not change thread title to Olympics 1500 to marathon event discussions thread for men and women

Good idea. I changed it to something like that.

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

WIIIILLLLIIIIISSS!!!

He advances to the 1500m semis. I love cheering for the "old guys".

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

Wow! How about the men’s 400m hurdles final! The world record got smashed.

And the US has a very impressive female squad. The 200 ladies, the 400 ladies, the hurdlers, the long jumpers. Loving all of it.

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clm
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Smashed is an understatement 76th/100 second!?! That is an outrageous deduction in time!

OK if we are covering all of track I am looking forward to the 200m men's finals and the 4x100 relay.

These decathletes are amazing. Damien Warner put up at 10.13 in his 100m for Canada. They should put him on the 4x100m squad!!! We have two Canadians in 1 and 3rd after day 1.

200m finals on deck in a few minutes!!!

Yeah, Andre De Grasse got the gold in the 200m. I am hoping the 4x100m team from Canada can deliver a medal. This track is fast too 19.65, 13/100ths faster than Bolt in Rio

Just watched the 110m hurdles finals. The 13.04 time from Hansel Parchment from Jamaica was a full tenth (actually 0.11) from Renaldo Nehamiah's 12.93 at Zurich 1982. Renaldo was the first human sub 13 seconds. I don't believe there were any sub 13's 39 years later.

No American team in the 4x100 finals. That seems insane given the depth of US sprinting. But it also shows the depth of the global competition on the track. This is not swimming with 37 medals and just a handful of countries dominating everything. Track is globally way more deep than swimming (even though my fish friends may not want to concede that)

and Peter Snell's time would have gotten him silver in the 800 this year.

Pretty cool watching Damien Warner breaking 9000 points and taking gold in the decathlon. Due to Covid19 restrictions, he and coaches got access to a closed ice hockey arena and converted it into a personal training center building a mini track straightaway, long jump pit and pole vault training zone!

OK it seems I am the only idiot on ST that remotely cares abou track.....amazing men's 5000m finals with a 55s final lap....Mo Ahmad from Canada took a well earned silver after missing out on medals in the 5000m

Hasan on deck now for the W1500. Here we go. She has her 10000m tomorrow

Hasan goes out from the front with a 62 second first lap

1;51 at 700m

Kipyegon (sp?)....what a kick for gold. Hasan looked gassed on this schedule. 6 races in 8 days. I bet that fall and sprint in the 1500m qual was a match she did not need to burn in this "multi stage event". No Zatopek replica performance

3:53 was the Olympic record time. 2:02 final 800m. Hasan had no knee lift in the final 150m

That NBC tv coverage/announcing of the marathon was the worst ever. I went ahead and reprogrammed my FireStick to receive the CBC broadcast for today. I will not endure that again for the final day of track. No interviews with the USA winners, but that will probably be available on YouTube/Twitter highlights sometime later.

I also missed the women's marathon live and managed to miss the 4x100 due to work going on. The Italians ran a superbly executed relay. Tough for the British team getting nipped at the line and Andre DeGrasse pulled up a strong anchor leg. I did not realize that the Italian running the anchor was the first ever Italian who has run a sub 10 100m (before Jacobs). I was just assuming Jacobs would run anchor, but using Jacobs early was probably a good strategy to provide a psychological advantage heading into the anchor leg.

In any case watching both the Olympic Swimming and Track has been uplifting. Perhaps more so the track since there are athletes from so many countries all having to have operated under different covid19 limitations. I wrote about Damian Warner the Canadian who lost his training facility during Covid19 and got access to a condemned old unheated hockey arena from the city of London Ontario where he lives and converted it into a person decathlon training center:

https://www.linkedin.com/...041942081351681-2hxJ

For me that was one of the most amazing stories, about not letting a pandemic get in the way of his drive to win a gold medal

Nothing on men’s marathon, IMO one of the capital M medals at the OG - so I’ll start. Rupp, to me is running’s Froome. Old school, focused family man who is also a world class athlete. Yes grey area stuff with Alberto, but with the level of scrutiny on them I have to think if there was late 90’s real doping going on, we would know. News flash folks - if you want to be the best in the world (at anything), you are in the grey area or you lose. I’m hoping the Japanese runners will finally show up. My pick for the podium is 1)unknown Ethiopian with a multi-minute PR. 2) Kipchoge 3) Rupp or a breakthrough and courageous Japanese runner. It’s one of the few events that watch start-finish is going to be worth the pain of NBC commentary for!!

As someone who is perpetually critical of NBCs lowest-common-denominator coverage of track and field i found the best way by far to watch the events was online using the live feed - particularly those at night in Japan/morning EDT. A mix of predominantly unfamiliar (to me) voices who never seemed to announce themselves ....i think two were Rob Walker and top throws coach John Trower but not sure of the rest. All knowledgeable, informative and entertaining. Great banter; and not overly obsessed with the US.

Trower even makes the throws interesting - and is one of those who knows and can communicate exactly what the athlete did right or wrong as soon as the javelin or other implement is in the air - doesn't need to see how far it goes.

The broadcast seems to disappear from the NBC site as soon as the session ends though (even if paused), and of course the knowledgeable people get replaced by the usual crew for anything on the website or on TV.

Looks like Men's marathon starts in 3 hrs at 6pm EDT which is Sunday 7 am JST.

Looking at Accuweather, 7 am JST is 26C at 74 percent humidity. By 9 am it goes up to 28C and humidity drops to mid 50's. Looks like weather similar to the tri.

Hopefully Kipchoge steps up. The Nike sub2 was a bit of a joke. This is a real race. He is a racer. As for Rupp, will be intresting and I agree with you, anyone competitive is in the grey zone skirting at the edge of the red zone. Not a Salazar fan as a coach (I was a fan waaaay back when he won the NYC marathon and he had his own dissappointment at the LA Olympics in 15th)

It looks like Hassan ran a 63 second final lap in the 10000m. I think it is roughly the same time Hasan ran in the final lap of the 1500m (if I did my math correctly). Anyone know where we can get the lap splits?

In the results. Click the little + and they have the splits for each 1000 m.

https://olympics.com/...000m-fnl-000100-.htm

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Yeah, hi-46s has been itching for a big change for a long time. Glad to see this happen.

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

I may be crucified for this, but we can count on USA somehow screwing up the 4x100m. They should win it, but more often than not, they find a way to lose.

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

That M1500mF was one for the ages. It was an honest pace from the get-go. It reminded me of the 1984 Final. (Yes, I'm that old.)

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

This is the downside of so much depth. Other countries barely have 4 atheles who can run close to 10 seconds each. So their fastest 4 have to practice all the time just to make it thru rounds. USA has so much depth that they can put any of 50 sprinters (many who did not qual for games )on the track and make it thru the rounds. The downside is they never get to practice together. 4x100 is a momentum race....you don't want to lose any momentum at handoff. Our Canadian team said they had two handoffs where it was not so smooth and lost speed and then it was too much to make up

Men's Marathon about to start.

Will Kipchoge prove that he is the GOAT?

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

(I coached Cam Levins in HS.)

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

A lot of attrition very early in the marathon. Stephen Kiprotich, Winner 2012 Olympics, is walking at 30 minutes.

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Andrew Inkpen

Don’t worry, Carl Lewis already ripped them on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/...114725802614785?s=21

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clm
Nashville, TN
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Good ol' Carl!

Rupp is looking good!!!

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

Guy from Brazil was running beside Kipchoge in the front and then suddenly was staggering and then fell to the ground. Got up, sprinted back to the pack and then lay down on the side of the road. Tough conditions. On a pace about 10 minutes slower than their PBs.

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Andrew Inkpen

Rupp steps up at these big events so let's see if he is in the mix. 65 minutes for the first half and they will be 1:32 at 30 km. Kenyan train in the front looks a bit like Ineos driving at the front of a TdF stage. No Ethiopians in the top 10?

1:32.31 for Kipchoge at 30km. Looks like 2:09 at this pace today. Times may be very similar to LA Olympic marathon above

I jinxed Rupp...at 32 km its all blown apart. Kiphoge going for a 10,000m track ITT

Looks like the only people left in contention for medals are East Africans (genetic stock...appears to be One belgian and one Dutch) and one Japanese guy. Rupp is around 45 seconds outside of the medals now. Looks like he's out of contention but you never know who blows up

27C and 74 percent humidity in Sapporo at 8:50 am JST according to accuweather

OMFG I could watch Kipchoge all day. He has decided to do what he does.

Rupp struggling?

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I only swim.
I used to run. (31:09 10k.)
I never did Triathlon. (Sue me.)

Kipchoge 1:46.59 at 35km. Probably a low 2:08 and beats Carlos Lopes' time. I don't think he will take out Sammy Winjaru''s 2:06.32 from Beijing which is current Olympic record.

Is this course in Sapporo dead flat? When I think of Sapparo I think "mountains everywhere" but maybe that's all outside the city ?

Would really love if Marathon majors dropped the pacers/rabbits. This has been great.

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Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.

41.1km and a pack of 4 fighting for silver. This will break down to an 800m track event.

This last kilometer is going to be one throwdown.

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clm
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I timed a 67 second final 400m "jog" for Kipchoge for the gold

Looks like 2 athletes only under 2:10!

That was great- come with me Abdi!

Rupp was 8th.

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clm
Nashville, TN
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LOL, no world record this time, but certainly a world record in dick moves from French "runner" Morhad Amdouni.

https://twitter.com/.../1424245565458567169

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"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden

Excuse my selective editing, but what you said could easily be referring to the US cyclists in the madison last night.

You beat me to it, was just about to post this. Should be a DQ in my book.

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Let food be thy medicine...

Amen to that. Apologists are saying he was hot and tired - that his action was inadvertent. Complete BS. DQ should be the least of his penalties.

Never saw that. It should be straight up DQ

I wasn't really rooting for Hassan during her races but seeing her suffering after the 10K finish and her emotion during the 10K medal ceremony was surprisingly emotional to me. Congrats to her on her historic achievement!

Followed by an armchair quarter back WR in your post. It's km 30 with all the accumulated fatigue. Grabbing bottles at 3 min per km, guy has shared bottles with competitors at other aid stations, including with Kipchoge, there are several other tables full of bottles at the same aid station, you see no surprised looks at either the volunteer faces or his fellow competitors, but yeah let's give him a life time ban as other armchair quarter backs have said.

Interestingly the video isn’t at full speed so it looks worse than it is. There is also a full row of bottles in the back it’s not like he knocked the whole table over.

IMO the queen in athletics was Hassan. Thompson-Herah got 3 golds, Mc Laughlin smashed the 400m hurdles WR, Rojas broke the triple-jump WR (quite expected)...but running 3x1500m, 2x5000m and 1x10000m is just insane. What we saw in the 1500m preliminaries, falling down and overtaking all the girls was simply crazy...
By the way, is there an actual study about the gain with the magic shoes in the track? In the spanish TV, a former marathoner who is quite close to the Kipchoge´s squad commented that you can gain 3-4 seconds per kilometer in a marathon with the vaporflys and the other brands that are using carbon plate shoes...Also, not all the athletes , as he said, will benefit the same, as it depends on your running technique, footstep, weight, etc...

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Spaniard. Sorry for my english for the sensitive ones :P