I'm not a current subscriber, but used TR in the past. So, I've received a few emails with the opportunity to rejoin at the current rate (before the increase). I did search here for some discussion of this without success. Did I miss comments on this somewhere? I really like TR - the podcast is terrific and they continue to advance the platform in what seem to be useful ways. But I worry about cost escalation. Zwift 1st, then the Wahoo purchase of Sufferfest, now a significant price increase from TR. As the market consolidates, perhaps we will experience strongly increasing prices? Maybe TR is trying to boost revenue to justify a bigger sale price?
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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When is the price increase taking effect and do you know by how much? Today I see pricing at $15/mo or $129/yr. I am not a current user but was planning on signing up over the winter, so wondering if now would make more sense, or do they typically have promotional pricing over the holidays...?
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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It's another $5 a month. Given the ridiculous things we spend money on in triathlon, is this really something to worry about?
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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Price change announced about a year ago: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/...to-raise-prices.html
I do not remember a discussion here, but it may be buried somewhere in the standing Trainerroad thread.
I do not remember a discussion here, but it may be buried somewhere in the standing Trainerroad thread.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [Jimmw]
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They actually had already increased the price, but didn't give a heads up beforehand this time like they did in the past. After getting negative feedback about that and realizing their error they have given you a week to lock in the old price if you want.
And I'm torn on the price increase. On one hand it sucks all of these services are going up in price so quickly, but on the other hand they have to grow or die. In TR's case, they've been transparent that the price increase is merely to hire more engineers and product managers. Basically to make the product better over time. I can understand that.
And I'm torn on the price increase. On one hand it sucks all of these services are going up in price so quickly, but on the other hand they have to grow or die. In TR's case, they've been transparent that the price increase is merely to hire more engineers and product managers. Basically to make the product better over time. I can understand that.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [exxxviii]
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Price change announced about a year ago: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/...to-raise-prices.html I do not remember a discussion here, but it may be buried somewhere in the standing Trainerroad thread.
DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.
That thread was about the first increase.
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [Timtek]
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DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [RoostBooster]
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Well, another way to look at it - a 33% increase from $15/mo to $20/mo. Annual price will be $190/yr. To the poster who was considering waiting - I think that today is the last day for old pricing (31 July 2019). I'm not saying that the $5/mo is a killer or that it's not justified - I just don't know. Market consolidation and multiple price increases reinforce each other...
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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They mentioned it on this week's podcast.
Here's the link in the forum:
https://forum.trainerroad.com/...g-for-one-week/18664
I've been with TR for a few years. It's by far the cheapest Watts/dollar return i've come across.
Here's the link in the forum:
https://forum.trainerroad.com/...g-for-one-week/18664
I've been with TR for a few years. It's by far the cheapest Watts/dollar return i've come across.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [RoostBooster]
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RoostBooster wrote:
It's another $5 a month. Given the ridiculous things we spend money on in triathlon, is this really something to worry about?
Re: Trainerroad price increase [Ai_1]
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Hope this won't affect us in the UK even harder.
$15 is US, in the UK I pay £10.60 (at current exchange rate about $12.25, but a year ago probably closer to $15).
If they switch to $19.95 at current excange rate it would mean a raise to about £16.30, or ~60% increase.
$15 is US, in the UK I pay £10.60 (at current exchange rate about $12.25, but a year ago probably closer to $15).
If they switch to $19.95 at current excange rate it would mean a raise to about £16.30, or ~60% increase.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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They now have outside versions of each workout that you can push to your Garmin head unit. It is really a year round program now so there is more value and they have the calendar feature to plan your workouts.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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There was a huge thread on the TR forum about this price increase. Nate Pearson made a bunch of comments throughout. Thread is now closed.
I had been wondering how long till a slowtwitch thread popped up about this. Now I know.
I had been wondering how long till a slowtwitch thread popped up about this. Now I know.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [exxxviii]
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exxxviii wrote:
Timtek wrote:
DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.I guess you will have to sacrifice 1 cup of Starbucks coffee a month to justify the increase then. Smh
Re: Trainerroad price increase [turningscrews]
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turningscrews wrote:
exxxviii wrote:
Timtek wrote:
DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.I guess you will have to sacrifice 1 cup of Starbucks coffee a month to justify the increase then. Smh
^^^ So true! Given the results they give I can't see how anyone could even think twice about an increase when it's still such a low amount. Yes, I am grandfathered in at the original rate and have been a VERY happy user since the inception. Between TR and a smart trainer, nothing in the sport has delivered more positive results. Even at $20/month anyone would be hard pressed to get more bang per buck.
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [450res]
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450res wrote:
They now have outside versions of each workout that you can push to your Garmin head unit. It is really a year round program now so there is more value and they have the calendar feature to plan your workouts.Yeah, they fumbled the communication phase of the most recent price increase (although they did recover), but they've recently added a lot of functionality that, IMHO, justifies an increase.
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [Ai_1]
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Ai_1 wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
It's another $5 a month. Given the ridiculous things we spend money on in triathlon, is this really something to worry about?Yes, it is.
If another $5 a month is an issue for you, then this isn't the sport for you.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [RoostBooster]
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RoostBooster wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
It's another $5 a month. Given the ridiculous things we spend money on in triathlon, is this really something to worry about?Yes, it is.
If another $5 a month is an issue for you, then this isn't the sport for you.
It's not an issue of affordability, there's a bigger picture. If you can't understand that, this isn't the conversation for you.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [RoostBooster]
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agree...i'm totally fine with the price hike. TR has made enough improvements over the past year for me to justify the increase. if i think about all the nonsense stuff i have purchased for triathlon and if that has done anything for me to get me better, it's a no brainer.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [Ai_1]
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Ai_1 wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
It's another $5 a month. Given the ridiculous things we spend money on in triathlon, is this really something to worry about?Yes, it is.
If another $5 a month is an issue for you, then this isn't the sport for you.
Don't be an ass!
It's not an issue of affordability, there's a bigger picture. If you can't understand that, this isn't the conversation for you.
Wow. You think I'm being an ass because I'm pointing out that it's a minor issue in the grand scheme of things? That's an....uhhh...interesting take on things.
It costs more. That's what happens to services and goods over time. What exactly is "the bigger picture" that's so concerning?
Re: Trainerroad price increase [450res]
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Is there value in the outdoor feature if you don't have a powermeter? ...do you need actual power readings for the workouts to be useful uploaded in TR, or does lack of power for outdoor rides negate the value of this feature? I have power with my trainer, which is why I was waiting for colder weather, when I do nearly all riding indoors, to sign up. Don't have a PM for my bike when riding out doors though, so am questioning whether it's worth using TR if I'm only doing 1 or 2 rides a week that will be compatible with TR for roughly two thirds of the year.
EDIT: I found they do include RPE descriptions in outdoor rides for people without powermeters, so have my answer.
EDIT: I found they do include RPE descriptions in outdoor rides for people without powermeters, so have my answer.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [RoostBooster]
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RoostBooster wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
It's another $5 a month. Given the ridiculous things we spend money on in triathlon, is this really something to worry about?Yes, it is.
If another $5 a month is an issue for you, then this isn't the sport for you.
Don't be an ass!
It's not an issue of affordability, there's a bigger picture. If you can't understand that, this isn't the conversation for you.
Wow. You think I'm being an ass because I'm pointing out that it's a minor issue in the grand scheme of things? That's an....uhhh...interesting take on things.
It costs more. That's what happens to services and goods over time. What exactly is "the bigger picture" that's so concerning?
Agreed and TR is well worth it. Hmmmmm, which would make you faster, TrainerRoad or 2 more gels a month? No brainer.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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I think they are continuing to work on their calendar and swim and run stuff so that they can be an alternative to TrainingPeaks or Today’s Plan. So if you pay for one of those you could drop that and use TrainerRoad for both indoor cycling and general training logging
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [RoostBooster]
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Another price increase and yet they still can't synch your runs or swims into the TSS?
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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But I worry about cost escalation.I am pretty sure trainer road doesnt increase your pricing. I.E. whatever price you started with is the price you pay, as long as your membership is still active.
I think I am still paying my 2015 rate.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [patentattorney]
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Nate has repeatedly stated that as long as he is in charge, and a subscriber remains subscribed, their price will not go up.
He also stated it other ways as well. But he is adamant that current users will not see their prices increase.
He also stated it other ways as well. But he is adamant that current users will not see their prices increase.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [prefersdirt]
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I have thought about switching platforms. But paying past prices just makes trainee road so much more valuable that even when I think about paying I can’t justify the price difference.
So keeping pricing that way has stopped me from trying other platforms. If it was the same price I prob would switch it up just to see.
So keeping pricing that way has stopped me from trying other platforms. If it was the same price I prob would switch it up just to see.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [patentattorney]
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But I worry about cost escalation.I am pretty sure trainer road doesnt increase your pricing. I.E. whatever price you started with is the price you pay, as long as your membership is still active.
I think I am still paying my 2015 rate.
Same here. I'm still on 2013 pricing. Maybe it's non-TR users that are whining about the price. TR users know the value. I'm really impressed by the new user interface, the podcast is pretty good and the new outdoor stuff is semi useful to me.....but I'm mostly an indoor creature. If the app was able to show/load run and swim workouts straight from the app's calendar (instead of 'view activity online'), then I really don't think I would have any suggestions for them.
patentattorney makes a good point. I have been most curious about Sufferfest's platform and would like to try that. The post ride stretching looks appealing. I was a Zwift user a couple times, but it wasn't for me.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [dangle]
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I have been most curious about Sufferfest's platform and would like to try that. The post ride stretching looks appealing. I was a Zwift user a couple times, but it wasn't for me.Hey Dangle. David from The Sufferfest here -- if you'd like to give us a try, just head over to our site. The stretching sessions in our app are great (they've particularly helped me with some hip mobility issues). We have a free 7-day trial, and that will give you time to try out our 4DP, 30+ yoga for cyclist videos, 22 strength training videos, 20+ mental toughness modules and, of course, hundreds of video-based and NoVid workouts. If you stick around awhile, you can also try one of our more than 100 training plans (the only ones where you can also add yoga, strength training and mental toughness tracks to the cycling or multi-sport tracks).
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [RoostBooster]
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I think the real issue about the price increase is that tr is competing with zwift and others. Tr is good stuff but as a current user of both, I am much more impressed with zwift and would be hard pressed to pay more for tr which is essentially watching a line graph compared to the awesome 3d world and social racing and training in zwift.
I will also add that id change my tune probably if the TR plans were game.changers for me but they unfortunately were not for me. Got about 6 watts on my ftp after olympic base and the much harder build, was actually bummed it was so small a bump.
At 20 per month tr costs more than zwift which doesn't make sense for me.
I will also add that id change my tune probably if the TR plans were game.changers for me but they unfortunately were not for me. Got about 6 watts on my ftp after olympic base and the much harder build, was actually bummed it was so small a bump.
At 20 per month tr costs more than zwift which doesn't make sense for me.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [turningscrews]
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turningscrews wrote:
exxxviii wrote:
Timtek wrote:
DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.I guess you will have to sacrifice 1 cup of Starbucks coffee a month to justify the increase then. Smh
If you give in to every subscription service that justifies its price hike as only one giving up one cup of coffer per month then you won't be getting any coffee.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [Arch Stanton]
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Arch Stanton wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
exxxviii wrote:
Timtek wrote:
DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.I guess you will have to sacrifice 1 cup of Starbucks coffee a month to justify the increase then. Smh
If you give in to every subscription service that justifies its price hike as only one giving up one cup of coffer per month then you won't be getting any coffee.
Other than utilities/cable/phone, how many subscriptions do you have? I am hard pressed thinking any others besides TR and T26
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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It is a stand-up move by them to not increase pricing for existing customers. Just for reference, Zwift is at $15, Sufferfest at $13. All of the smart trainer apps are going to increase over time, gradually. Nice that TR locks you in at a price.
Anyone know if TR has an option to put your subscription on a temporary hold/freeze?
Anyone know if TR has an option to put your subscription on a temporary hold/freeze?
Re: Trainerroad price increase [KingMidas]
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KingMidas wrote:
Arch Stanton wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
exxxviii wrote:
Timtek wrote:
DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.I guess you will have to sacrifice 1 cup of Starbucks coffee a month to justify the increase then. Smh
If you give in to every subscription service that justifies its price hike as only one giving up one cup of coffer per month then you won't be getting any coffee.
Other than utilities/cable/phone, how many subscriptions do you have? I am hard pressed thinking any others besides TR and T26
Man I hate subscriptions but the list keeps on growing....
Netflix
Trainerroad (annual)
Zwift (love it, plan on canceling TR once the year is up)
NYT News
Amazon Prime
Chesstempo
Wife has two cooking subscriptions
Not even including utlities/cable/phone/insurances
The list goes on and on...
Re: Trainerroad price increase [lightheir]
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lightheir wrote:
KingMidas wrote:
Arch Stanton wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
exxxviii wrote:
Timtek wrote:
DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.I guess you will have to sacrifice 1 cup of Starbucks coffee a month to justify the increase then. Smh
If you give in to every subscription service that justifies its price hike as only one giving up one cup of coffer per month then you won't be getting any coffee.
Other than utilities/cable/phone, how many subscriptions do you have? I am hard pressed thinking any others besides TR and T26
Man I hate subscriptions but the list keeps on growing....
Netflix
Trainerroad (annual)
Zwift (love it, plan on canceling TR once the year is up)
NYT News
Amazon Prime
Chesstempo
Wife has two cooking subscriptions
Not even including utlities/cable/phone/insurances
The list goes on and on...
Forgot about Amazon.
I don’t have cable anymore so I count Netflix/Hulu as a need for tv.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [KingMidas]
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Forgot about Amazon. I don’t have cable anymore so I count Netflix/Hulu as a need for tv.
- $1,800 – Cable & broadband
- $1,920 – Mobile phone
- $100 – Office 365 Home
- $120 – Amazon Prime
- $150 – TiVo (for a lot of folks, or some other premium media)
- $160 – Netflix
- $140 – Hulu
- $380 – SiriusXM (for 2 people)
- $240 – TrainerRoad or Zwift
- $60 – Strava Summit
I love my TrainerRoad subscription, and it has given me huge benefits. But, it is also sobering to see that it is one of my largest individual subscription expenses in my household.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [exxxviii]
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I still am def of the view that if either Zwift or TR motivates you to either workout more or get significantly higher quality workouts or significantly more enjoyable workouts several times a month compared to as going without it, it's totally worth it. For me, Zwift hits both, and is def worth what I pay for it.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [lightheir]
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I'm an off/on again TR user. I think TrainerRoad has two key advantages over their competitors...customer service and workout library. I've always received top support from TrainerRoad and while competitors has been decent, TrainerRoad always won hands down. Once I prepaid for a year, got injured 1 month in and they were kind enough to refund the prepaid and freeze my account when they didn't need too. I think any way they handled the new price increase announcement was likely just a rare, miscommunication on their end.
With that said, yes, price increases are annoying but necessary. I'm very curious to see how they use the new revenue increase to further development to stay competitive. An increase likely won't drive new users and may cost them some who use numerous services by making them choose (like myself), but they'll need to further develop and differentiate to really carve their niche deeper in a fast growing and competitive industry. While it's a small price increase, it adds up on top of other subscriptions, coaching, service, etc.
With that said, yes, price increases are annoying but necessary. I'm very curious to see how they use the new revenue increase to further development to stay competitive. An increase likely won't drive new users and may cost them some who use numerous services by making them choose (like myself), but they'll need to further develop and differentiate to really carve their niche deeper in a fast growing and competitive industry. While it's a small price increase, it adds up on top of other subscriptions, coaching, service, etc.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [Arch Stanton]
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Arch Stanton wrote:
turningscrews wrote:
exxxviii wrote:
Timtek wrote:
DC Rainmaker pointed out this is their second price increase this year. It’s going to $19.95/mo. for noobs.I guess you will have to sacrifice 1 cup of Starbucks coffee a month to justify the increase then. Smh
If you give in to every subscription service that justifies its price hike as only one giving up one cup of coffer per month then you won't be getting any coffee.
Agreed. Also, who is buying $5 coffees? I pay $5 a month for the coffee club at work. I'm estimating about 15 cents per cup.
In the grand scheme of things not everyone makes $90k a year. Not everyone makes $60K per year. Some people make $20K per year. Everyone's budget is different. Some people have a lot of subscription services and need to make cuts when there is no more money left.
All that said, I do not have trainer road or have a dog in this fight, I just agree with the statement that you can't simply say "Oh boo hoo, one less coffee for you this month" every time there is a price increase to something. I never liked that take personally.
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [exxxviii]
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Damn, you guys spend a ton between your internet and phones. For my wife and I the yearly cost of our monthly ‘optionals’
Gym Membership $1080
Internet $660
Cell phones/plans $ 1000
Costco $120
Amazon Prime $120 (but we’ll likely not renew it when the current year is up)
Netflix $160 (I’d ditch this but the wife likes it)
TrainerRoad $99
Strava Analysis Pack $24 (I probably don’t need this, I just think the live segments are fun)
Matt
Gym Membership $1080
Internet $660
Cell phones/plans $ 1000
Costco $120
Amazon Prime $120 (but we’ll likely not renew it when the current year is up)
Netflix $160 (I’d ditch this but the wife likes it)
TrainerRoad $99
Strava Analysis Pack $24 (I probably don’t need this, I just think the live segments are fun)
Matt
Re: Trainerroad price increase [Chemist]
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In the grand scheme of things $20 isn't much but two price increases within a span of a year is hard to swallow.
Thank god I'm still on the old pricing... if I were a new subscriber I don't think I'd pay that much.
Thank god I'm still on the old pricing... if I were a new subscriber I don't think I'd pay that much.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [RoostBooster]
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RoostBooster wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
It's another $5 a month. Given the ridiculous things we spend money on in triathlon, is this really something to worry about?Yes, it is.
If another $5 a month is an issue for you, then this isn't the sport for you.
This is probably the same guy that starts the "why aren't younger people interested in triathlons" thread.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [blayze]
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blayze wrote:
In the grand scheme of things $20 isn't much but two price increases within a span of a year is hard to swallow. Thank god I'm still on the old pricing... if I were a new subscriber I don't think I'd pay that much.
This is me as well. I willing pay the annual subscription for the ready made plans, but can draw up my own just as easy. Trainerroad workouts are my Netflix/Prime watching time.
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [mck414]
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PerfPro Studio is still a one time fee as I recall. So there are non-subscription options out there.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [spudone]
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Not to anyone in particular, but a thought about legacy pricing... If the cost of doing business is really increasing as justified by the fee increase, allowing the base users to 'underpay' implies that the new users are 'overpaying '. Well, who would do that? So this policy cannibleizes growth to maintain a past user base. Is that sustainable in the long run? Sort of the inverse of a club with rising costs. Users leave due to escalating costs, making the remaining users absorb ever higher fees ( dividing a fixed cost among fewer members). Soon enough, one person is left paying the entire costs. The 'one price for life' is a somewhat slower approach to the same failure mode.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [giorgitd]
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allowing the base users to 'underpay' implies that the new users are 'overpaying '.As a potential customer it does turn me off. I don't like feeling like a sucker.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [altissimotri]
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altissimotri wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
RoostBooster wrote:
It's another $5 a month. Given the ridiculous things we spend money on in triathlon, is this really something to worry about?Yes, it is.
If another $5 a month is an issue for you, then this isn't the sport for you.
This is probably the same guy that starts the "why aren't younger people interested in triathlons" thread.
You may have to walk me through this one....
Re: Trainerroad price increase [trail]
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trail wrote:
giorgitd wrote:
allowing the base users to 'underpay' implies that the new users are 'overpaying '.As a potential customer it does turn me off. I don't like feeling like a sucker.
As a current customer it does keep me subscribed. I'm not sure I'd come back at $190 a year if I left. At this point, even if I take a year off, it's better for me to pay and not use it for a year than to dump it.
Re: Trainerroad price increase [mgreer]
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I agree, I am a daily user of TR, and once they figure out how to load in runs and swims, it will be even better.
That said. if I had to pay 20/month. My loyalty would likely not be as strong. Maybe I would do Zwift or SF or nothing at all for a couple months.But I know I am locked in a a better rate now. so I will keep going with it.
Also I think TR is smart to realize that a lot of people have multiple subscriptions, and if they increased the cost to all users, they would likely lose several of those to people who will decide to keep one of the other.
That said. if I had to pay 20/month. My loyalty would likely not be as strong. Maybe I would do Zwift or SF or nothing at all for a couple months.But I know I am locked in a a better rate now. so I will keep going with it.
Also I think TR is smart to realize that a lot of people have multiple subscriptions, and if they increased the cost to all users, they would likely lose several of those to people who will decide to keep one of the other.
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Re: Trainerroad price increase [blayze]
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blayze wrote:
TR knows that if they jacked up the prices for the existing users, they would most likely lose a material amount of users to Zwift. I'm guessing the vast majority of users who subscribe to both would choose Zwift over TR if they had to choose.
Maybe, maybe not. Very different interface. It is all about what kind of workout you are looking for. Zwift is great if you just want to hop on and spin, not the best, in my opinion, if you are looking for structure.
Lindenin wrote:
blayze wrote:
TR knows that if they jacked up the prices for the existing users, they would most likely lose a material amount of users to Zwift. I'm guessing the vast majority of users who subscribe to both would choose Zwift over TR if they had to choose.
Maybe, maybe not. Very different interface. It is all about what kind of workout you are looking for. Zwift is great if you just want to hop on and spin, not the best, in my opinion, if you are looking for structure.
One important note, you can do structured workouts in zwift, they have a great workout creator. I have around 200 workouts in my zwift library now. Then you can do your Erg mode workouts but have the entertainment factor from zwift, I personally prefer their workout mode. They are also adding in more workout plans and they are getting better. I think they will be much better over the next year.