bloodyshogun wrote:
Got it. You are a very fun guy to hang around. Do motorcycle Sunday rides ban bikes based on CC ("don't you dare bring a a bike with 700cc to our 500cc bike group cruising over the country side. This road is for 500cc bikes only. Cheater!"). Man, there are as many jerks riding motorbikes as there are dopers in cycling. Yes, I actually play golf with my family, even though they are not good. I don't care if they want to take additional swings. We laugh over a drink, poke fun at each other. I call it Sunday afternoon, and it's a pretty fun time. E-bikes are great for people to come together and enjoy the hobby together even at various fitness levels. I won't tell someone to "f off" over a Sunday ride, unless they are compromising the safety of the group. I don't even mind it if people bring a TT bike to the group (as long as they stay on bullhorns when they are in the back). Such cheaters for bringing TT bikes to B rides. When they are up front, they aren't even working that hard, or providing much of a draft zone. Should really tell them to ride by themselves. Cheater! I propose a separate type of weekend activity (let's call it cruise on wheels), and have a different cruises system based on speed, so groups can stay together, won't drop anyone, and focus as much on camaraderie as fitness, but not competition. SOs are welcome, SOs riding e-bikes are welcome. SOs riding e-bikes with delicious snacks and drinks in tow are even more welcome.imswimmer328 wrote:
So me buying my girlfriend an ebike so she can ride with me is now the same as cheating at golf? You realize most people do this for fun, right? Group rides aren't races...
Don't take what I said and twist it with hyperbole. I said in the group rides. "it better be in the C-group". There's nothing wrong with riding with another person or people who do want to ride as friends.
I'm not talking about a couple out for a weekend ride together, nor even a group of 3 to 4 folks on a ride. I'm talking about your bigger A/B/C organized local group rides.
There's an A/B/C not just due to riding experience, but physical ability. If you want to ride with Billy Bob and Sussie on your e-bike, invite them out for a Sunday morning ride together. But if Billy Bob and Sussie are in the A-group ride that day, don't invite yourself along on your e-bike.
There's no A/B/C on a social friend's ride. It's whoever is invited with whatever they've got.
When there is an A/B/C, that should be respected within reason.
Also, my point about motorsports was about motorsports. You took the hyperbole up a notch again by talking about Sunday moto rides. What about a Sunday moto ride is "motorsports".
There's also the concept of having a cohesive group of similar physical ability in golf. You can have a Sunday family or friends hack fest and do whatever you want for fun. Or, you can choose to have a foursome among players of a similar ability for a round. If I chose to play a round in a foursome with some single-digit handicappers, we'll still have a drink and have fun.......but you better not be cheating in the foursome of single digit handicappers. If I chose to play with the single digit golfers and a duffer shows up and cheats the whole time to be able to hang, people are going to be annoyed.
You can have
both groups. But trying to call someone a boring crappy person because within certain groups they DO want the rules enforced is a bit much. That's YOU trying to inject your idea of your leisure ride or leisure golf round into what other people do.
I'm not telling you to ban e-bikes or freebie shots from golf within your fun groups. I'm telling you that the "A group" and the "single digit handicap" outting demand at least a modicum of respect for norms and rules.
That does NOT make someone "not fun".
