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If you look at the front page on ST,, it shows Daniela Ryf running with her jersey unzipped all the way at the 70.3 WC. WTC has that bullshit rule that requires all tops to be zipped above the sternum and no bare midriffs. I actually had a volunteer try to DQ me when my zipper was about 1/2 j ch below my sternum at BSLT in 2017. This angers me, not because Ryf won, but because WTC wants us age groupers to burn our asses off in hot races for a pointless rule, yet they don't enforce it in the athletes that actually matter.

Fuck you WTC! I was already racing as many non-WTC events as I could, but now I will really try to avoid them until you remove that bullshit rule.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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If you had watched the coverage they made it plenty clear that Ryf had a broken zipper and that the rule you state does not count if equipment is faulty and the suit cannot be done up.

I imagine this also might be mentioned in the article on the front-page.

If it's too hot in a race go ahead and just rip your zipper to break it and bingo... You can run with it open. Bit of a waste of an expensive tri-suit mind.


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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [jac2689] [ In reply to ]
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The broken zipper thing has happened more than once in the pro ranks. Stupid rule, I'm out of WTC events until they fix that one rule.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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duplicate thread

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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T3_Beer wrote:
If you look at the front page on ST,, it shows Daniela Ryf running with her jersey unzipped all the way at the 70.3 WC. WTC has that bullshit rule that requires all tops to be zipped above the sternum and no bare midriffs. I actually had a volunteer try to DQ me when my zipper was about 1/2 j ch below my sternum at BSLT in 2017. This angers me, not because Ryf won, but because WTC wants us age groupers to burn our asses off in hot races for a pointless rule, yet they don't enforce it in the athletes that actually matter.

Fuck you WTC! I was already racing as many non-WTC events as I could, but now I will really try to avoid them until you remove that bullshit rule.

your mom should have been DQ'd.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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T3_Beer wrote:
The broken zipper thing has happened more than once in the pro ranks. Stupid rule, I'm out of WTC events until they fix that one rule.

If that's your reason for not competing, I think you've got some mental health issues.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [NordicSkier] [ In reply to ]
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NordicSkier wrote:
T3_Beer wrote:
The broken zipper thing has happened more than once in the pro ranks. Stupid rule, I'm out of WTC events until they fix that one rule.

If that's your reason for not competing, I think you've got some mental health issues.

I'm fine, I live in California where there are enough other options to give WTC the middle finger. I'm tired of burning up on the run just for the sake of a pointless rule.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [NordicSkier] [ In reply to ]
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We were watching a Kona reply last week and my wife said "oh look, shouldn't he be penalized or DQ for having his shirt undone?"

Dumb rule.
Enforce the no drafting rules!
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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T3_Beer wrote:
The broken zipper thing has happened more than once in the pro ranks. Stupid rule, I'm out of WTC events until they fix that one rule.

Thanks for making me laugh over my morning coffee. I think WTC events will be better off without you.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [Etip] [ In reply to ]
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Etip wrote:
We were watching a Kona reply last week and my wife said "oh look, shouldn't he be penalized or DQ for having his shirt undone?"

Dumb rule.
Enforce the no drafting rules!

This.

Triathlon is the sport where you get a penalty or dq for minor stuff. But you always get away with drafting.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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Flappy top creates more drag...would have gone under 4 hours with it zipped.

[pink] she should get an extra medal for pushing through such tough conditions [pink]
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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"While she was making up time, Ryf struggled with a broken zipper on her tri suit creating sub-par aerodynamics and threatening a one minute stand down penalty if the problem was created on purpose"
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [NordicSkier] [ In reply to ]
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NordicSkier wrote:
T3_Beer wrote:
The broken zipper thing has happened more than once in the pro ranks. Stupid rule, I'm out of WTC events until they fix that one rule.

If that's your reason for not competing, I think you've got some mental health issues.

Ohhhhh. Now let's not say anything about someone's mental health. In the AH thread that would be grounds for a riot.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
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Does it really make that much of a difference unzipping? Once my suit gets wet, I can't tell much difference between zipped and unzipped.

Complaining is a habit....a bad habit.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [Calvin386] [ In reply to ]
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Calvin386 wrote:
Does it really make that much of a difference unzipping? Once my suit gets wet, I can't tell much difference between zipped and unzipped.

Complaining is a habit....a bad habit.

So is self-righteousness.

Unzipped is more comfortable for some of us, whether it's faster or not.

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that speed, for lack of a better word, is good. Speed is right, Speed works. Speed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [jac2689] [ In reply to ]
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The rule is pretty dumb but having a broken zipper doesn’t matter. We were told at the Steelhead race briefing that if the zipper broke we’d have to find a solution like Jesse Thomas did in whatever that race was where he duct taped his top.

Also, I think Ryf was ok because she had her sports bra. Forgot which pro but they emailed Heather to ask if they could wear an old school only cover the chest top and that was acceptable. So basically don’t show skin around the chest area but stomach is ok.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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I think you and Kiley need to get together. He can help with your moobs and you can help with your brain.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [jrielley] [ In reply to ]
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So I remember when this happened to Jesse Thomas too

https://www.facebook.com/...from-ironman-703-perú-with-2nd-place-best-bike-split-an/1322414014474269/


So why didn't he just continue with it open if its OK when it is actually broken?
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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WTF is wrong with our sport banning cut pro athletes from showing their abs.....this is a stupid rule.

Age groupers need to have a rule to cover up their bodies.....we don't want to see bare chested mamils shuffling in the streets at 13 min miles with their "bros" undone. This is a good rule for age groupers.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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Dude.... Relax! Her zipper was broken. Dq'ing her for that would be terrible.

It's a dumb rule but if you want to bow out of WTC racing for that reason it I think you're nuts but have at it.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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That's your final straw? no wonder beer in t3 tastes like shit.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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SBRcanuck wrote:
So I remember when this happened to Jesse Thomas too

https://www.facebook.com/...from-ironman-703-perú-with-2nd-place-best-bike-split-an/1322414014474269/


So why didn't he just continue with it open if its OK when it is actually broken?

The thing is in the heat of the moment you don't have time to really think it out. Jesse opted to take the conservative route and it ended up getting him a bit of extra press as an added benefit but slowed him down. Ryf took the non-conservative route. It would be nice to get some clarity on the rule. IMHO there needs to be greater efforts in general towards real infractions, *intentionally* drafting, doping, and figuring out a way to cover races but not affect the outcomes. Instead of dinging athletes for petty things. However, it is best in society if we lead by example and the pros should be held to a higher standard in general.


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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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Seriously. Grow up.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
Age groupers need to have a rule to cover up their bodies.....we don't want to see bare chested mamils shuffling in the streets at 13 min miles with their "bros" undone. This is a good rule for age groupers.

Did you mean to put this in pink? At any race the best body in the race is going to be age grouper not a pro. Towards the back of the race you might have some overweight individuals, but just don’t look at them if you’re offended...

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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RowToTri wrote:
Dude.... Relax! Her zipper was broken. Dq'ing her for that would be terrible.

It's a dumb rule but if you want to bow out of WTC racing for that reason it I think you're nuts but have at it.

I watch the swim/bike part of the race thru FB feed and I must say that her efforts to zip up her top were little to non-existent!!!

That's what I saw, now I can't confirm that it was broken but I did see pics after the win where she had the "zipper fixed" so believe what you hear from the commentators if you want to... but part of me believes she just did what was faster for at transition and at least it worked for her

Speed kills unless you have speed skills!!!
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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That’s my question. I recall him having to sort a ‘solution’ mid race as a pro trying to compete before being allowed to continue.

the rule is ridiculous and if you’re going to enforce it... well make sure your kit works or your day is over. Sucks but fair. Or WTC just needs to realize shit happens and sometimes it’s hot. Enforce drafting and drug testing instead.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [playero] [ In reply to ]
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playero wrote:
RowToTri wrote:
Dude.... Relax! Her zipper was broken. Dq'ing her for that would be terrible.

It's a dumb rule but if you want to bow out of WTC racing for that reason it I think you're nuts but have at it.


I watch the swim/bike part of the race thru FB feed and I must say that her efforts to zip up her top were little to non-existent!!!

That's what I saw, now I can't confirm that it was broken but I did see pics after the win where she had the "zipper fixed" so believe what you hear from the commentators if you want to... but part of me believes she just did what was faster for at transition and at least it worked for her

You think she rode the whole bike ride with her jersey unzipped on purpose?

After she crossed the finish line they gave her a long sleeve jersey to put over her broken tri suit. She did not fix it.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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First of all, there's no way she would have ridden with it unzipped, if she could actually zip it.

Even worse, quite a few of her sponsors didn't get the "eyeballs" they pay for because of the unfortunate wardrobe malfunction. There is zero possibility that this was any kind of subterfuge on Daniela's part... she's a professional with contracts that require her to display their logos during the race and she made attempts to zip it up.



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playero wrote:
RowToTri wrote:
Dude.... Relax! Her zipper was broken. Dq'ing her for that would be terrible.

It's a dumb rule but if you want to bow out of WTC racing for that reason it I think you're nuts but have at it.


I watch the swim/bike part of the race thru FB feed and I must say that her efforts to zip up her top were little to non-existent!!!

That's what I saw, now I can't confirm that it was broken but I did see pics after the win where she had the "zipper fixed" so believe what you hear from the commentators if you want to... but part of me believes she just did what was faster for at transition and at least it worked for her


You think she rode the whole bike ride with her jersey unzipped on purpose?

After she crossed the finish line they gave her a long sleeve jersey to put over her broken tri suit. She did not fix it.
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
WTF is wrong with our sport banning cut pro athletes from showing their abs.....this is a stupid rule.

Age groupers need to have a rule to cover up their bodies.....we don't want to see bare chested mamils shuffling in the streets at 13 min miles with their "bros" undone. This is a good rule for age groupers.

lol! so true!

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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See, I said her efforts to zip it up were nearly nonexistent I didn't say she did that on purpose that's 1 completely different things.

Will you say if you watched her arrival to T2 that she spent more than 5 seconds trying to zip up her top?! Again my vantage point & it will obviously differ from person go person however, she attempted to zip it, no good; grabbed bike attempted it (under 3 secs) & said it's time to go & got on the bike course.

I really think that if anything it worked out on her favor creating a bigger bus than it's worth & letting the competition know that no matter the problems on course I will beat you kinda statement.

Speed kills unless you have speed skills!!!
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [playero] [ In reply to ]
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So how many attempts of what length each should be required before a zipper can officially be declared broken?

How will these attempts be documented? What will be the procedure for certifying the number and length of each attempt before the athlete is allowed to continue unzipped?

If we don't get this locked down, how will we stop all these athletes faking broken zippers before starting their bike ride?!?

this should be unnecessary but </pink>

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]
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Pun_Times wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:

Age groupers need to have a rule to cover up their bodies.....we don't want to see bare chested mamils shuffling in the streets at 13 min miles with their "bros" undone. This is a good rule for age groupers.


Did you mean to put this in pink? At any race the best body in the race is going to be age grouper not a pro. Towards the back of the race you might have some overweight individuals, but just don’t look at them if you’re offended...

Yes pink font :-)
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
WTF is wrong with our sport banning cut pro athletes from showing their abs.....this is a stupid rule.

Age groupers need to have a rule to cover up their bodies.....we don't want to see bare chested mamils shuffling in the streets at 13 min miles with their "bros" undone. This is a good rule for age groupers.

Came here to say something along these lines.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [playero] [ In reply to ]
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I remember her trying to zip it up for about 15 seconds in T1 and then tried a few times on the bike....it wasn't like she didn't try and why shouldn't see its not fun for her to ride the bike portion with that flapping around

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [TizzleDK] [ In reply to ]
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I remember her trying to zip it up for about 15 seconds in T1 and then tried a few times on the bike....it wasn't like she didn't try and why shouldn't see its not fun for her to ride the bike portion with that flapping around

I understand she tried to zip it up during the bike ride... however per everyone's mind it was already broken who h is why she left T1 with it being zipped!

What was the point to attempt to zip it up during the bike leg if it was deemed broken?! There's seriously no point yo it & if anything it was taking time from her by said attempts.

Anyways, zippers can be a pain & likely even worse at the ship race & being the favorite to win that she prolly just couldn't do it by rushing & everything else that was running thru her mind. Again it just showed all the ladies that she can still beat them all to T2 with a parachute on! LOL

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [damon.lebeouf] [ In reply to ]
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damon.lebeouf wrote:
your mom should have been DQ'd.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [Fishbum] [ In reply to ]
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Fishbum wrote:
NordicSkier wrote:
T3_Beer wrote:
The broken zipper thing has happened more than once in the pro ranks. Stupid rule, I'm out of WTC events until they fix that one rule.


If that's your reason for not competing, I think you've got some mental health issues.


Ohhhhh. Now let's not say anything about someone's mental health. In the AH thread that would be grounds for a riot.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [playero] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [D_PRC] [ In reply to ]
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D_PRC wrote:
duplicate thread

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Tri_suit_rules_P6721779/?page=unread#unread

Also here : https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ring=biatch#p1566945

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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Good grief, it's 2018. How difficult is it to make a tri top with a zipper that's going to work when you really need it to work?

Not saying her's wasn't broken on Saturday, but I'd go out and buy a new top before my next race if I couldn't get the zipper to work.

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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It happens.

Trust me I’m a doctor!
Well, I have a PhD :-)
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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [PhilipShambrook] [ In reply to ]
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ITU uniform rules are even more strict. However it is more clear that a midriff is allowed in long course.

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https://www.triathlon.org/uploads/docs/itusport_competition-rules_2018.pdf

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Re: Ryf should have been DQ'd [T3_Beer] [ In reply to ]
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you are utterly retarded. there are plenty of good reasons to avoid WTC, but Ryf having to ride and run with her suit flapping about is really not one of them! if she could have taken the top half of her suit off, she would have clear done so and legally only worn the sports bra she had on underneath.

it was clearly broken, there was a far greater disadvantage than any advantage, and to disqualify her for a broken zipper complete defeats the object of the rule.

the rule is in place to create equality between male and female athletes. otherwise men would be free to race topless, where as women would not be able to do so under current social culture for women to not reveal breats/ nipples in public.

therefore, the simplest way to create equality in a race, is to prevent both from unzipping their tops lower than the breast bone.

both men and women are fully entitled to wear a sports bra during the race in place of the undone zipper option.

unfortunately for Ryf, her top was sewn to the bottom half of her suit otherwise she would have clearly taken it off and perfectly legally only worn the sports bra she had on underneath.

get a grip, seriously.
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