Too late, but thanks for the heads up. Where/how did you see this shipment?

I disagree-I love my Nano. Doesn't skip when running like the Ipod did. It's also much, much lighter. So far no problems with the screen cracking but if I know apple they would stand by their product.



Pat

Think again...there have been issues with the Nano screens since day one and from the reports I have seen, Apple has not stepped up to the plate so readily with replacements.
I believe there is a class action lawsuit concerning the screens.

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/11/08/apple_nano_lawsuit/

Buy a protective case for it asap.
Mark

Thanks for the heads up--mine has already been ordered though. Curious where you saw this shipment? Are you a retailer?

Class action lawsuits like that one are nothing more than a money grab for lawyers. Gee, a plastic screen scatches, who woulda thunk it?

Ted, do you know there is a forum for OT stuff?

This whole thing played out on the internet a month or so ago. There were some problems with some of the Nano's and Apple said it was possible the problem might surface until they replace or recall all of the faulty ones. However, they have stood behind it 100% after some initial problems. Some Apple retailer and websites were calling for boycotts etc. but have all since taken back their remarks as Apple has stepped up to the plate.

I don't have one, but if you do, enjoy it, if it breaks, Apple will back it up.

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My nano is an essential component of my training. Don't even want to think about biking or running without it.



Pat

By the way...from the ST Forum rules...

"After you've been here awhile, if you do want to lodge a complaint, it should include documentation, it should be measured, it should not be personal, and you should demonstrate discretion."

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Then there shouldnt be a big OT in front of the title.

From the forum FAQ

"OFF-TOPIC POSTS? These go in Tibbs' Lavender Room, another of our forums."

and

"WHAT CAN'T I POST HERE? Your post should not be off-topic."

Seems to me like you are lodging a complaint against Apple. I am sure you will say you are just warning people, but in light of recent events around here I wouldn't play semantics. At the very least put it in the Lavender Room.

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Reuters
Apple Computer Inc. responding to complaints the screen on its sleek, recently introduced iPod cracks too easily, said on Wednesday it will replace any defective units...

[T]he problem has occurred in less than one-tenth of 1 percent of the iPod nanos sold so far. "Any user with a defective screen should contact Apple ... and we will replace it for free," the spokesman said. "It's not a design issue."

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it's just that there are so many ipod posts here that it would only seem natural.

and if there were so many people jumping off of bridges around here would you....

You get the point, I am not trying to be a jerk, but there are some simple rules and I think we can all follow them.

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Me thinks Ted made a mistake by putting "OT" in front of his post.

iPods/MP3 players, like aero bars, wheelsets, running shoes, etc., are an integral part of many people's training equipment. Talking about them is not OT.

However, this Nano screen issue is old news.

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Look, no rudeness intended here buddy but i think you should worry about more important things than where and what some people are posting.
I put OT : infront for a reason, and nobody said you had to read this post and answer.
But I understand what your saying. SMILE THERES A FOOT AND A HALF OF SNOW OUTSIDE.

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didn't know it was old news :( my bad.

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This post isn't unrelated to triathlon activities, but it does seem mis-guided.

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absolutely correct. i dont run without an ipod and this isnt offtopic.

OK, don't say, "no rudeness intended," because obviously you are coming off as condescending. And sure, the old "worry about more important things" argument can be played in any situation.

I am not really worried about your post particularly. But there are rules set out here, by the person who makes this place possible, why is it so hard to follow them and when someone brings them up without trying to sound argumentative, why do you respond like this?

If you made the conscious decision to put "OT" in front of it, put it in the Lavender Room, it's easy. It's not like someone who accidentally posted a classified ad on the main forum, those people get flamed right away. And if you identify your post as "OT" it should be moved like those are.

You seem like a fine guy and you thought this was news and wanted to help people, props to you on that. I just think we can all follow some rules around here so as not to be getting ourselves kicked off of an internet triathlong forum. That's just embarassing, it's like when the teacher would make you sit in the hall in elementary school for talking in class.

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Better to post and warn.

People then respond with:
a) that's old news, preferably with the latest update.

b) wow, thanks for the warning!

c) your topic has nothing to do with triathlon and therefore you should jump off a bridge.


That means you have a 2 out of three chance for something productive to come from your post!

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Right on - It is equipment related and very important to me also.

I love my Nano and haven't had any problems with it. This sounds like hearsay to me. And yes, it is "OT". Not just because it is about iPods, which in and of itself wouldn't necessarily be off-topic, but because it's unverified b.s. and you have nothing to back it up with. Maybe if someone was asking "which iPod/mp3 player is best for training?" it wouldn't me OT, but this, again, is just hearsay. But it's not like we don't get a lot of OT posts around here. We're trying to do better though ;)

And for the one-tenth of one percent of the people who did get a Nano with a screen-cracking problem, I'm sure Apple will gladly replace it.

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c) your topic has nothing to do with triathlon and therefore you should jump off a bridge.

I wasn't saying he should jump off a bridge...just quoting what my Mom told me when I was about 10 years old and I rode my bike off the local pier with a line tied to the seatpost and almost killed myself :-)

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I was being unnecessarily sarcastic.

Picturing the pier jump made me laugh:)

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OTOH what you might name the fourth daughter that you don't intend to have might seem off-topic. But then maybe the child, who shall never exist, would have been a triathlete, or might have affected your training so who knows.



(all meant to be silly and not taken seriously folks)



Pat

Ok, so I guess I understand that you didn't really "see" a shipment of defective ipods as you first said; you heard about it through your mom, who heard about it from a client.......No offense, but that seems like a flimsy reason to publically post that nobody should buy a nano.

Many people buy Nano's for training. I don't think this post is OT at all. Thanks for the notice...

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Oh yeah? my mom saw a whole case of 'em and NONE were defective.

according to my second aunt, apple has taken care of all the problems and everything is a-ok. so smile, go outside and enjoy the snow ;-) :-) smiley simile oneone !@!221 pwned

Well, I just started using an iPod Nano...my first MP3 player. I purchased the Otterbox waterproof case...and am waiting for my waterproof headphones.
I don't know how the Nano compares to others, but it sure is small...and using iTunes is a no-brainer. I love it thus far.
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Just buy one of these:

http://www.otterbox.com/...ases/ipod_nano_case/

You can run the thing over with your car and won't break it. Waterproof to 3 feet so you can even swim with your Nano, if you're so inclined.

as someone that has a much deeper look at this issue than Ted will ever have -

this is complete bullshit

the nano screens are the same as the prev ipods. Same supplier, same model -

nothing like a bunch of mass hype to make think people they can "SUE" everytime they damage an item from treating it rough.

But whatever, run with your ipods w/o protection in your sweaty hands, put them unprotected in your pocket with keys and when they get scratched or damaged be sure to head for your lawyer.

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the nano screens are the same as the prev ipods. Same supplier, same model -

Actually, that isn't totally accurate. While the model may be the same and the supplier of the actual Nano may be the same, the pieces come from many different sources. What is believed to have happened is that there was one batch of "bad" screens which were prone to scrathing and breaking. The issue was that Apple knew this and sent them out anyway. Sort of like the way car makers send their cars out with known defects. It is usually cheaper to settle the lawsuits than fix the issue with the product.

But I agree...suing over every silly thing is...well silly. But if they knowingly sold defective merchandise, they should get the hammer.

indeed the pieces that comprise an ipod come from many different sources - but in this case it is the EXACT same screen. Not from somewhere else and not from a different source.

I also enjoy the "The issue was that Apple knew this and sent them out anyway." I would like to know how people know this. Do they have internal apple documents or are they spouting bullshit on the internet?

puh-leeze

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[reply]indeed the pieces that comprise an ipod come from many different sources - but in this case it is the EXACT same screen. Not from somewhere else and not from a different source.

I would love to know how you can differentiate between two screens made by 2 different manufacturers. Are you able to see down to the molecular level? All it takes is for a tiny bit of solution to be left out of a batch of plastic and it has a totally different molecular structure....hence the difference between a non-scrathable surface and a scratchable surface. If you can see that, then I want to borrow you next time I go buy some scratch lottery tickets.

Fireface: "indeed the pieces that comprise an ipod come from many different sources - but in this case it is the EXACT same screen. Not from somewhere else and not from a different source."

Marcus: "I would love to know how you can differentiate between two screens made by 2 different manufacturers."

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I'm guessing that one of you works for Apple, and the other is just full of shit. Everyone 'fess up ;-)

[reply]Fireface: "indeed the pieces that comprise an ipod come from many different sources - but in this case it is the EXACT same screen. Not from somewhere else and not from a different source."

Marcus: "I would love to know how you can differentiate between two screens made by 2 different manufacturers."

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I'm guessing that one of you works for Apple, and the other is just full of shit. Everyone 'fess up ;-)[/reply]

Well I don't work for Apple, however, I do know this type of thing happens all the time.
I will add I love my Apple shuffle and I am a big fan of Apple products in general, however, IF it is true they did know about the issue, I believe they deserve to get everything coming to them. Do I know this is what happened? Nope, only hypothesizing. But there is no way, NO way, he can tell the difference between screens made by 2 different manufacturers. Or even 2 screens made by the same manufacturer, in a different batch.

Do I know this is what happened? Nope, only hypothesizing. But there is no way, NO way, he can tell the difference between screens made by 2 different manufacturers. Or even 2 screens made by the same manufacturer, in a different batch.

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I don't believe he ever said he can tell two screens from different batches, but he most certainly could tell two screens made from different vendors if he works in Procurement at Apple. Just a hypothesis on my part.

yeah, I never said i was "looking" at the screens, I stated that I knew for a fact that they are the same screen.

hypothesize away......

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I don't believe he ever said he can tell two screens from different batches, but he most certainly could tell two screens made from different vendors if he works in Procurement at Apple. Just a hypothesis on my part.[/reply]

Good point...something I hadn't thought of.

Ok, I can post on this with a little authority. I have owned an iPod for about four years, a mini for 3 years and a shuffle for a year. I have been using Apple computers for 20 years (first one was a Mac SE). I am ridiculously loyal to Apple.

Grabbed a Nano for my girlfriend just after they were launched and heard all the hype about cracked screens, didn't believe it until one morning last week she took it out of its protective 'sock' and there we go, a cracked screen. To be more accurate this has nothing to do with the outer casing of the nano, no scratching, no cracking etc. Just the LCD screen cracked within the outer casing, she hadn't dropped it or anything. This is bad.

Rang Apple the next day (in UK where I live), new Nano arrived next day including the same engraving on the original. This is good.

Only downside is the woman on the phone couldn't guarantee the problem has been sorted so I am expecting further problems down the line. I tried to pay extra and upgrade to a iPod video but this was apparently a no go.

Just thought I would enlarge on the problem. It is definitely not "hearsay".

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Changes to:Meanwhile, after the world read the first post on ST, Apple's sales plummeted, trading was halted in their stock on the NYSE and millions of children will not have Nanos under the Hanukka Bush--I mean Holiday Bush.

Since we are OT, what is the bet for the Jan. 5 game? Maybe the loser has to do a number of kick lengths (with fins) equal to their age?

For triathletes, you'd think this carbon fiber case would be the ticket...

http://www.c6mfg.com/Products.html

That thing is pretty sweet looking, but with as much as I sweat I'll be testing the limits of even the Otterbox to keep my Nano dry ;-)