does it look like a P3?

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Did you see it on the web? Post a link??

jIM

If it looked like a P3 I wouldn't post about it, that's just not done. Unless of course you do what Willier did and you piss off the people who's bike you rebadge, then all bets are off. Did anybody else see Scott's media offensive after Willier tried to spin a Scott frame as a "highly secretive" Willier prototype? Pretty funny.

I've sent the photo to somebody who will hopefully post it. It looks hot, maybe there are some things here and there to criticize, but it just looks cool (hm, now I've called it hot and cool in the same sentence). That's what I've always liked about BMC, at least they try to be different from the pack.

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Is it yellow? That's the fastest color I'm told.

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no words just: waaauw

hmm it seems that my html code does not work to post images, so check the url!
i think he will be fast on this bike!

That might be the hottest bike I have ever seen!!

What are those bars? Looks like no stem too.

Neal Dunn

wow. this beats the sh&t outta any bling bling that's been done on "Pimp My Ride!" Rock on Tyler!

That is cool. has similiar lines as trek tt.

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Looks like a fatted out P2K. Gotta get you and Phil redesigning.

Holy crap, I just soiled myself.

I need a cold shower and someone to cuddle.

thanks for the link - I won't get next month's issue of Hussler for a couple weeks and needed something to look at while I relieved my slef.

Whew - feel sooooooo much better

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Sure is purdy.

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ohmygosh, that is pure sex on wheels! Beautiful and very fast looking bike.

My first response is: This is reminiscent of the late 80's-mid 90's when you just never knew what some of the big names would show up with. I remember nearly falling out of my seat when I saw bikes like Boardman's Lotus and MI's Pinarello. There were many others, as well. Some worked well. Some...well...not so well.

This thing is definitely a "hot rod." Will it work? We're certainly going to find out! I like the dynamics they've got going on between the front wheel and the down tube...the wheel is fairing the down tube. The attention to detail like trying to pair up the shifter cables is cool, though I'm not sure if the effort really inproved things much since you've still got two cables in the wind. It certainly shows a lot of effort, though. And that fork looks like they are pushing the UCI limits down to a gnat's ass as well. Can you say purpose-built?

HAHA Mr. Tibbs better not look at this one ;-)

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Guys I just broke my wrist and I am loosing my vision but I can't stop. OH BEAUTIFUL BIKE PORN!!!

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Yes, that's one of the strange things about it. Illegal or superfat and not very aero, those are really the only two options with a blade that wide.

Gerard.

Doesn't the UCI rule have to do with aspect ratio? If so, a deep fork can be legal if the blades are fat.

Is it just a function of the picture. I looks that the black from the other side of the fork balde is seen in the picture. Why would they build a fork that is illegal?

Neal Dunn

When I get rich I am building me one of those with two changes. The fork would be that deep but razor thin and it would have a 78 degree seat angle. Other than that I wouldn't change a thing.

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It's not just that, I had taken that into account. Jsut lok near the crown, it is very wide there and there is no fork leg behind it, just a rim.

Gerard.

Sweet!

Interesting that the integration of the head tube and fork looks similar to what the teams sponsored by Look were riding 2-years ago! Wonder if that frame is a prototype made by the company that makes the cool frames for the Australian track team (BT?)?

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My second response: My-oh-my how I love carbon...

yellow is wicked. I love the zipp sticker in green & yellow...

The ear is on backwards. Maybe that's so the bike can hear people say "What the F*ck was that?"

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Tyler to team mechanic: "I'd like to try the saddle 3mm higher, and can you drop the bars a couple of mm and scoot them forward a tad?"

Mechanic: "uh..."

I guess this just goes to show that these guys don't really tinker with their positions all that much :-)

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The "We race for better hearing" is pretty cool too. I played with the idea of putting "We're here for better racing" on the CSC bikes to poke a little fun, but in the end I decided against it.

Gerard.

Too bad his position looks like crap on it...or at least it did earlier in the year.

He was much better positioned on a Cervelo, IMHO. Same could be said of Sir Lance-e-Crow, looks like all that tunnel work with HED and Crue gave him cramped scoliosis...

Wait until he puts that new Zipp 808 (I think that's what it's called) on the front end. Almost as good as two disks...

Tyler better hope there isn't any wind, I can see the headlines now..."Tyler blown off bike, breaks (whatever you want here)"

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Gerard,

I guess I should have asked first but I cross posted the link to the image on a local racing board (Texas Bicycle Racing Association) as well as - gulp - the "Pro Racing" forum at Bicycling magazine with credit to you for releasing the image!

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I played with the idea of putting "We're here for better racing" on the CSC bikes to poke a little fun

Have you played with the idea of putting "TSR - Sponsored by the masses. Racing for the hell of it." on a bike?

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That's cool.

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Looks an awful lot like the old Look KG TT/track bike. Same basic ideas, only updated with Pinarello front wheel cut-out.

I think they may be playing with the UCI definition of a fork to squeeze in different criteria: where does the fork end/frame begin? Much like folks are doing with the toptube/headtube/downtube junction (joining them earlier than strictly necessary) to fair in the headtube and goose the max dimensions on the frame members. By mounting the fork in front of, rather than below the headtube, they may be trying to apply the headtube max dimension to the fork crown (it's not part of the fork, it's part of the headtube...)

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Huh, looks like the top tube calls it the BMC Time Machine. ABICI won't be happy.

I don't recognize the bars either, but he's still using the Vison break levers.

Aerodynamically, I still doubt it trumps the Trek TT or a Cervelo.

Boy is that green, white, and yellow gawdy. This bike will be a joke in a few years.

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Is it an optical illusion due to the size of the extended seat tube or is that San Marco saddle really long, ala the Fizik Arione?

Perhaps that's why they went to the wind tunnels...to get REAL numbers instead of just using their calibrated eyeballs. The last time I checked, my eyeballs' calibration was little better than a SWAG. Your mileage may vary though.

cool bike. is it really made by bmc or does the bike simply provide advertisement space for the bmc stickers? not trying to take credit away from anybody and/or give credit to someone else. just curious.

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It's an optical illusion as the saddle is in fact shortened, not long. It is a Selle Italia SLR saddle with the tip cut off.

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The bars actually look like re-badged Vision's.

How come nobody has wondered how the hell does this steer. The "stem" seems to be part of the head tube. It doesn't even look like there is a headset there.

Definitely won't be seeing it in a bike shop, it lacks quite a bit of adjustability.

That's exactly what the old Look did also. Instead of using a regular headset they would attach the fork to the headtube and then twist the head tube to steer. If I remember right though, it is quite heavy to pull off.

I don't think those are Vision bars. They look a lot more like the Deda's US Postal was using last year.


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Wow, that is a nice bike. I saw a BMC a couple of weekends ago at a LBS, all stealth black...very nice, very different.

Frame looks very similar in parts to Look's new track frame:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/...robikes/look_clignet

For some reason the pic won't link, so you'll have to go the page to check it out.

Dave

The lack of adjustabililty is an interesting thought. Once a bike is dialed, one can set it and forget it. I've been on the same dimensions for the last 10+ years on both road and my tri bike. How cool would it be to have the bike built for the individual. (ala CAT Cheeta) It will be interesting to see the team TT. Will Tyler's guys have one of their own, and in their size, or will the be on stock bikes while he gets all the bling bling. Only a few days to wait and see!

holy f*cking chr*stcakes. looks like darth vader's bike.

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With all that work on the stem why didn't they run the cables internal from the bars?

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Doesn't look like a very long drop from top of saddle to pads. Maybe that's not the actual position where Tyler's saddle will be (height wise). Just kind of figured he'd want it much more aggressively aero than that, i.e., a much longer drop.

The bars are the new one-piece Easton units. They are very nice, but they better fit as there is no adjustment.

He's never ridden with a large drop from saddle to pads.

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The position is a little more aggressive than it looks. In the photo the front wheel is rotated upwards (draw a line to connect the front and rear skewers to see). If you were to adjust the photo the bars would drop into a more aggressive looking position.

A few details you might have missed...

#1 - Notice how close the front wheel is to the downtube. That's REALLY close. Compare to your bike.

#2 - Notice how far down on the downtube the water bottle bosses are. I'll bet there's a special aero bottle and holder that's going there.

#3 - Looks like both gear housings go into the downtube on the right side, instead of left and right like most bikes.

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Are you referring to the Easton Attacks or some new prototype, because they don't look anything like the bars on this bike?

Neal Dunn

" of course you do what Willier did and you piss off the people who's bike you rebadge, then all bets are off. Did anybody else see Scott's media offensive after Willier tried to spin a Scott frame as a "highly secretive" Willier prototype? Pretty funny. "

Yeah, just like when Bianchi was trying to take credit for the Walser Jan was riding; I am surprised that Willier didn't try to say that the Walser the Gerolsteiner guys rode was a Willier Triestina (which I think translated into English means: "can't build our own bike").

I think Tyler's bike is cool, but all of these details are things I have seen before. It is a hopelessly non-production-friendly bike, and it looks remarkably like a Look in the front end. Nice execution, however.

Gerard

I agree. Reminds me too about the days (they weren't too long ago) of flipping through "CycleSport" or "Winning" and coming across bikes like Indurain's monocque (sp?) that he rode in his hour attempt in Columbia. That thing still looks fast!

But Tyler's bike is incredible!

It's the attack. It's a fairly flat monocoque bar with the pads elevated. It looks like the picture to me, and it has that little gold diamond Easton sticker that's just in view.

I wonder how long it will be before some scammer discovers that image and tries to put it up for auction on ebay?

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Where did you find this photo? Do you think the entire team will ride one or only Tyler?

This bike beats the Walser from last year by a mile!

Dave from VA

Gerard provided the image and another forum particpant was nice enough to host it for him but I imagine the source was a photographer or reporter for Pro Cycling magazine as they posted an article on the bike yesterday as well: http://www.procycling.be/...el&id=1088635379

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I think I misspelled it above, the name of Indurain's 94 TT bike, and his hour record TT bike was the Pinarello Espada.

Does this mean Tyler has to stop shaving his legs, wear cork-soled cycling shoes, and run around with beads and flowers in his hair? Wouldn't that render all these aero advantages on the bike meaningless? ;->

Anyone know if this "Birkenstock" is part of the same company as the sandle maker? Just thought this was an interesting distractor worth poking fun at.

16.4 Pounds?!? 7.45 kg?

http://pezcyclingnews.com/...ullstory&id=2382 not sure if someone posted this yet...

That's awesome - great additional pics!

Thanks for the link

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According to VeloNews, it is a Cervelo (http://www.velonews.com/...articles/6421.0.html). Gerard?

That's funny. It is Velonews, right? You'd think somebody would know what's going on around there.

From Velonews:

Let's start things off with a first-look at Tyler Hamilton's freshly unveiled Cervelo time-trial bike, which he will ride at this year's Tour de France (from a Cervelo press release):


Isn't somebody over there aware that he doesn't ride for CSC anymore?

i know it shouldn't be a problem, but i'd get nervous riding a bike with dropouts facing the rear, especially on the fork.

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What a blunder. There is no Cervelo press release, there is no Cervelo involvement in that bike.

Gerard.

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The front fork dropouts don't face the rear, but the rear dropouts do face the rear, like a Cervelo P2k and P3. I've never had a problem with my rear facing dropouts on my Cervelo, doesn't make me nervous at all.

That's a really bad press release, maybe I'm wrong, but who refers to the rear triangle as the "rear fork"?

And all the "innovative" stuff they claim has all been done before. Rear facing dropouts - Cervelo. That head stem, head tube thing - Look, I guess. Extended seat post - hmmm, Cervelo P2, Griffen I think, plenty of track bikes, etc.

I would have been more impressed if they'd said "we looked at all the innovative stuff used on other bikes and decided to raise the bar and put them all together and add a couple of new tricks of our own".

All that being said, I like the bike and can't imagine not going fast on it :-)

From the Phonak (not Cervelo!) Press release:

"The seat post is no longer really a post but a component of the frame, and is cut to fit. Its special design also allows us to make individual adjustments to the length"

Wow, what a radical concept. A way to adjust seat height! Let's give a raise to the guy that thought up that!

Actually, it is a very cool looking bike. With the penultimate stage being 55 km long, aero performance could become even more important than usual if the race is close. Of course, only the wind tunnel knows if it is as fast as it looks.

You know I took the liberty of cross posting the link to the image - and gave Gerard credit for finding the image - at two other websites, I noticed the next day that several other sites had also linked to those images. I wonder if my crediting Gerard with forwarding the image has now mutated accorss the net and the geeks at Velonews just preassumed from internet disinformation that the frame was made by Cervelo?

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Well, I called VeloNews and they changed it now, except for the photo credit. I'm sure they'll change that pretty soon too.

Gerard.

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At least they're getting close.

Notice how everyone wants to linked to Cervelo? Speaks volumes to me.

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