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Re: Mass Shootings - What will it take to change the law? [scorpio516]
scorpio516 wrote:
justcallmejoe wrote:
MJuric wrote:
FishyJoe wrote:
99% of people aren't reckless drivers, but we make people register vehicles and get licensed.


Does it stop accidents or people from getting killed? No.

Does it prevent mayhem and many people from dying needlessly? Yes.


Lots of people drive without license, registration or insurance....despite the fact that it's illegal.

There are also some states that actually have no license or registration requirements and also have some of the lowest deaths per capita by firearm in the US.


There are 2 states, Virginia and New Hampshire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...tional_homicide_rate,

Sort of an interesting correlation you're making but while sort of true, also not entirely true.


You should have mentioned Maine too. Lax laws.
However, both Mass and RI have some of the strictest laws in the country and are top 10 lowest per capita.

anyway, proposal 1:

Only gun clubs can purchase ammunition.

Proposal 2:

Guns can only be kept at gun clubs.

Proposal 3:

Ban the sale of ammunition

Proposal 4:

make Mass laws nationwide, but fuck Maura Healey.
(MA requires a license to buy or own any firearms. The license is given out by the local PD and requires approved training. There are two levels, low cap rifles and pistols + "high cap" rifles. The AG [Healey] approves pistols to a register.)



My husband owns a couple guns primarily for protection as we live in the middle of the woods, and it would take LE at least 30-40 minutes to help us, let alone find us if we experienced a home invasion. It may seem unlikely but there is quite a bit of drug crime in these small rural towns in the Northeast of New England. I don't love guns. I don't even like them. But I believe responsible adults should be allowed to own them, especially when you feel a bit vulnerable.

Where I live, I could go down to the local gun shop and bring home a gun for myself quite easily. A quick background check only takes a few minutes. It's easy peasy. My husband was in and out with a gun (sig sauer) in probably less than 20 minutes over a year ago. I would prefer if I needed training, education and possibly a license before I was allowed to own a gun. At the moment, I'd probably accidentally shoot my foot off if I purchased a gun (ok just kidding, but not really). I would be all for taking a class, learning to shoot, having a shooting test, much like getting a drivers license. I realize this won't prevent all shootings but if it prevented one death, to me that is worth it. So if this 18 year old had to jump through a few hoops to get a license and buy a gun, would this have deterred him? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. I'm also for better and more comprehensive background checks, but that doesn't catch people with mental illness. But it may stop a few "bad people" which to me is also worth it.

Honestly I really don't see much happening to reduce mass shootings in our lifetime. We go through these discussions every time there is a mass shooting. Nothing changes. The NRA is too powerful. Half the Senate will never change. It's also a deeply imbedded cultural thing here in the US. Banning guns won't stop all shootings. It may stop some. I'm all for common sense gun control. Can we also work on the root cause? I wouldn't even know where to start with that. How does a person harbor such evil and hatred. Who is at fault for these gunmen?

Death is easy....peaceful. Life is harder.
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