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All of which is both hilarious and utterly depressing that people feel that way about the golden shitter conman, given how he's made a mint by stiffing the little guy contractors with nonpayment and threats of litigation while building his real estate "empire," such that it is. But, hey, doesn't it work that way in a lot of dysfunctional relationships, people making others feel a certain way while every action in their history suggests something entirely different?
Yeah, an interesting question about these folks is how many are just flat out being conned vs. see through his bullshit and just don't care.
I assume many if not most of the religious right, run of the mill Republicans and the like fall into the latter camp.
I agree on the second camp. The tired argument that Trump voters are knuckle dragging idiots from the backwoods who don't understand the smart folk in the big cities and are just too stupid to see Trump is a real bad dude is lazy and useless.
If the left keeps trotting this out, they will lose again.
It's more likely the majority of Trump voters don't care that he is a flawed person, perhaps a conman and a cheat but he sure as hell represents their ideals better than anyone on the left and there were only two people on the ballot. Not that hard to understand.
So you trust the person possible conman and cheat? How do you trust he would be actually representing your ideals and not just conning you? Maybe he is just telling you what you want to hear and no doing anything to actually address your issues?
No trust required. You see what he is doing and make your own decision about if its closer to your goals.
How do his supporters do that? Read his Twitter feed and watch Faux News? From those sources, they get the false impression that everything he's doing is to their benefit, when exactly the opposite is true. It's not like his supporters are the type who dive deeply (or even shallowly) into the policies, just like they didn't dive into Trump's history to see what a liar and conman he really is.
He nominated Kavanaugh: Do they like that decision or not?
He is pushing for a wall: Do they like decision or not?
He declared an emergency to get the wall. Do they like that or not?
He signed a tax break: Do they like decision or not?
He is meeting with Kim. Do they like that or not?
He moved the embassy to Jerusalem. Do they like that or not.
And a million other decision he has made while in office.
Who cares what he says, look at what he does.
Shouldn't conservatives be upset at at least half of those?
He is pushing for a wall: Do they like decision or not? Do "conservatives" like taking away private landowner's land?
He declared an emergency to get the wall. Do they like that or not? Weren't "conservatives" upset at Obama's executive orders? Don't "conservatives" want to protect the constitution?
He signed a tax break: Do they like decision or not? "Conservativves" like a huge budget deficit?
He is meeting with Kim. Do they like that or not? Weren't "conservatives" upset when Obama even mentioned that he would be open to meeting with Kim? Why would they be happy trump did twice with no per-conditions?
Why are these things suddenly good?
His approval rating I believe is fairly high with Repubs so I guess they like his decisions.
See, conservatives don't like trump because of his policies, they like trump's policies because they like him. How else have they totally flipped from something being bad under Obama, but good under trump?
Should it give you pause that this conman is doing things that conservatives were dead set against?
Your generalities are showing. They are for building a wall ( generally don't like eminent domain but in some specific circumstances, such as defending our sovereign border, they can accept it).
Declaring an emergency is constitutional as it has been done millions of times before by presidents. Only issue the left has is calling the border situation an emergency, which conservatives agree it is an emergency ( the soverign border thing again) so that's not an issue.
Tax break, are you kidding me. Give me back my money is a conservative virtue that outweights budget defecits...cut something else to balance the budget.
Obama was a mess bowing to world leaders all over the place so Trump can't do any worse with Kim.