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Re: The CIA's Secret Prisons [ajfranke]
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In response to: "the existence of the secret prisons was NOT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION...to be classified they had to be legal....they were and are ILLEGAL."

First off, they are not illegal under US laws. If you think so, please cite the law.

Second, the material was and is classified. As noted today on the editorial page, author Priest is noted saying: Priest said none of her sources could have talked on the record for fear of losing their jobs, because much of the information is classified.

There is nothing in Priest's story to say that these were rouge rather than authorized operations, and Congress funds all sorts of black ops things without having a clue what it is funding.

Not one of your better posts, Matt. Congrats on the new job by the way.




From the original Washington Post article.

"It is illegal for the government to hold prisoners in such isolation in secret prisons in the United States, which is why the CIA placed them overseas, according to several former and current intelligence officials and other U.S. government officials. Legal experts and intelligence officials said that the CIA's internment practices also would be considered illegal under the laws of several host countries, where detainees have rights to have a lawyer or to mount a defense against allegations of wrongdoing."

THEY ARE ILLEGAL HERE AND THEY ARE ILLEGAL THERE, AND THEY ARE IMMORAL WHEREEVER THEY ARE.

"The agency set up prisons under its covert action authority. Under U.S. law, only the president can authorize a covert action, by signing a document called a presidential finding. Findings must not break U.S. law and are reviewed and approved by CIA, Justice Department and White House legal advisers."

The finding broke US law which is why they located the prisons in Eastern Europe and Thailand.

Thailand was closed, and sometime in 2004 the CIA decided it had to give up its small site at Guantanamo Bay. The CIA had planned to convert that into a state-of-the-art facility, operated independently of the military. The CIA pulled out when U.S. courts began to exercise greater control over the military detainees, and agency officials feared judges would soon extend the same type of supervision over their detainees"

D'ya think the CIA have been trying to avoid US law???





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Last edited by: MattinSF: Nov 7, 05 8:36

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