LOL yourself, "Frank". As far as I have been able to determine, I was the very 1st to propose/pursue calculation of "on-the-fly" changes in non-sustainable energy reserves. Perhaps you have some evidence to the contrary?

EDIT: Actually, I take that back - Morton and Billat tested an approach back in 2004. However, they simply assumed that recovery followed a mono-exponential time course with a time constant of 20 s, and used the model to calculate CP and W', not changes in W' over time. (Interestingly, said estimates did *not* agree with those obtained using continuous tests.)

High on your own gas again.

Just setting the record straight, "Frank".

I look forward to seeing the latest development of it in wko 4.

I'll have to check that out. Thanks!

cheers
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Do you believe in the easter bunny and the tooth fairy as well as rTSS and sTSS?

hahaha...cute...

S.

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Do you believe in GOVSS, Dave? rTSS is just a far-simpler path to essentially the same end-result.

You are not alone.

Shockingly not gonna be ready this year.

http://home.trainingpeaks.com/...al,-but-not-here-yet

Just replying to thread not you doc. Know you have nothing to do with the software.

..very cool...looking forward to it..


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This is approaching legend status like Duke Nukem "Taking" Forever.

Is WKO+ ONLY targeted at coaches with teams of professional cyclists? All the WKO 4 demos seem to really point that way.

It seems like a severely niche market.. maybe a few 3-5x hundred customers worldwide?

Nope, it seems that way because the majority of new features and functionality (aside from UI) are cycling related.

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Its not really targeted at anyone is it - because they can't get it released!

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He who understands the WHY, will understand the HOW.

EDIT: Just checked and in fact it's sold under coaching on TP's website which makes sense.


Money talks. I think that answers my question ;^)

I'd be curious if there are ideas on how TP's recent acquisition puzzles in with WKO 4. Just 3 weeks ago they bought a website to predict cycling finish times based on "advanced math". Which is sortof... "interesting"... given that WKO's "magic sauce" is tools to help coaches assess their cyclist performance.

I can imagine how to orchestrate these long term, but man... 3 separate pieces of software (TP classic, best bike split, WKO) seems a big challenge. And they've got the music software company they bought too back in August.

It's sold under the Athlete section of the website too :)

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Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

For anyone that wants offline analysis (Mac or PC), seamless TP sync, and appreciates the ability to customize, slice & dice data in almost any way possible, WKO4 will be for you. Oh, and it's targeted at cyclists, multisport athletes, runners, XC skiers etc. that is, endurance athletes and coaches.

But when? There are at least 3 other programmes on the market that kick WKO into touch these days if you are a cyclist - and they are probably better at the multi sport thing these days as well.

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To be honest, I waited long enough for wko 4.0 that I gave up and learned Golden Cheetah. I can't foresee any features of 4.0 that are going to compel me to buy it as an upgrade over Golden Cheetah.

Were you self-taught through trial and error, or did you find some kind of help guide for setting up GC?

Combination of the users guide, FAQ, the google group and trial/error. Since it is free I was willing to put in a bit of work to learn it.

It's going to be outdated the day it's released.

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