4. I wonder what NIKE, TREK, BERRY, SPEEDPLAY, HONEYSTINGER, etc have to say. What does Mellow Johnny & Juan Pelota have to say?

"We are saddened that Lance Armstrong may no longer be able to participate in certain competitions and his titles appear to be impacted," Nike reiterated in its statement. "Lance has stated his innocence and has been unwavering on this position. Nike plans to continue to support Lance and the Lance Armstrong Foundation, a foundation that Lance created to serve cancer survivors."

Well no, this investigation is not focused on them. That's why it is titled what it is. Those two have their own investigations and they chose arbitration. That is why there files have not been released.

I'm speaking strictly about the reality of Lance going to jail if he is to come clean, which is very real. not whether it is honorable for him to do or whether it will help cleanup an infested "sport."

Come on SLOWTWITCH?!?!?!?

1. I am only 757 and I don't have much to say. ST should be able to hit 1000 reply's in 24 hours.

2. I will admit: after reading through some of the report, I felt sick.

3. I burned my first USPS jersey last night in a bonfire. I have more LA stuff, but I am releasing my gear slowly.

4. I wonder what NIKE, TREK, BERRY, SPEEDPLAY, HONEYSTINGER, etc have to say. What does Mellow Johnny & Juan Pelota have to say?

5. Can someone track down and find out if any of LA's sponsors have responded?

$115,618,045 Tiger's career prize money


apples and oranges, not even in the same ballpark
and I thought Carmichael was his coach?:)


Kerry Classen

A security camera catches a guy walking into the Quickie Mart carrying a gun. It shows him walking out five minutes later with smoke coming out of the barrel of the gun in his hand. The police find Apu inside, dead of a gunshot from the same model of gun.

You sound like the lawyer who asks "yes, but where is the evidence that my client shot him?"

I really hope that the UCI crumbles. But I think they're doing damage control right now. The best thing that could happen is that Lance
comes clean and says how he paid the UCI. Doubt it will happen though.

And yes, GH winning in the mountains in front of Pereiro if I recall, was the biggest farce of these years.

Same with Hincapie and the others.

Where in that document is there proof that the money was for EPO/drugs etc?

It is proof that money was trasnfered from Lance to the Dr., but unless I'm missing something there is no smoking gun in those statements.

Yes, but they are insulated because the government needs their help prosecuting the big fish.

Tell me one cycling coach who makes $100k a year off of 1 athlete. Tiger's net worth is $500million after his divorce. I'm arguing because what Lance paid to Dr. Ferrari is obscene for coaching.

Kerry Classen

I'm arguing because what Lance paid to Dr. Ferrari is obscene for coaching.

He admits to doping with EPO back in 1996. So why not all the way back?

Is this the kind of money you coaches make?:)
Total $1,029,754.31

Kerry Classen

Tell me one cycling coach who makes $100k a year off of 1 athlete. Tiger's net worth is $500million after his divorce. I'm arguing because what Lance paid to Dr. Ferrari is obscene for coaching.

Kerry Classen

If witness testimony was inadequate to convict someone, our jails would be nearly empty.