Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [brewerbry] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 10:51

Post #26 of 226 (28557 views)

What are you using on the back. If I can not sort things out, I will use my EE brake on the back as the cable run is very nice and centered but not as good as say a T726R.

That is exactly what I am going to try to do on the front of my build but I like the integrated CX headset a bit more for a little cleaner look.

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Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [BMANX] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 10:59

Post #27 of 226 (28546 views)

I'm sure it's the same TRP brake Campy OEM from; the good news is another source to get it like through any Campy dealer

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ccie1115] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 11:06

Post #28 of 226 (28533 views)

ccie1115 wrote:

Another source: Campagnolo rear aero brake

I have this installed on my Felt DA. Very happy with it overall, but I only rode it for about a month at the end of the season with a single race. I will try and get some pictures up this weekend to show how I set it up.

If anyone knows of a source for a longer bolt that has the nice rectangular/oval head that recesses so nicely I would like to find one. The bolt that comes from Campy with it is only long enough for a rear brake application, and the only other bolt I had simply had a standard bolt head on it.

Ryan

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 11:09

Post #29 of 226 (28529 views)

Sorry to hijack...

How did u get to work on the Bayonet fork/stem?
I'm on a DA as well...

thanks

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [BMANX] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 11:20

Post #30 of 226 (28510 views)

The brake actually stops the bike now, after Tom A.�s tip to tighten the straddle wire.

The brake is actually designed to go behind the fork so I got one of the guys at work to lop off a bit of the backing plate and redrill the mounting hole. Mounted using the original hole it sat far too low and fouled the front tyre.

Close up to follow.

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Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ccie1115] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 11:24

Post #31 of 226 (28496 views)

ccie1115 wrote:

Sorry to hijack...

How did u get to work on the Bayonet fork/stem?
I'm on a DA as well...

thanks

When I get the pictures up it will be clear.

But in words, I found a brake cable stop that is used on cross bikes that can mount on the fork brake mounting bolt. It takes the spot of the spacer behind the brake itself. I had to grind a little off to get the brake spacing right, but that was the best option when you cannot use the spacer version of the brake cable stop.

I have seen this cable stop on some trek cross bikes recently so maybe look at their catalog, or the brand of mine was Problem Solvers I believe.

Ryan

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 11:29

Post #32 of 226 (28485 views)

Check out Toronto Cycles as I believe they carry ti bolts in that style.

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 12:28

Post #33 of 226 (28437 views)

Thanks, I was going this route

going to try your way:

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 13:51

Post #34 of 226 (28400 views)

ryans wrote:

If anyone knows of a source for a longer bolt that has the nice rectangular/oval head that recesses so nicely I would like to find one. The bolt that comes from Campy with it is only long enough for a rear brake application, and the only other bolt I had simply had a standard bolt head on it.

Alternatively, I've seen extra-long recessed nuts that will reach far enough into the fork crown to work with the shorter rear brake bolt.

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 14:01

Post #35 of 226 (28384 views)

I emailed the guy at Cycle@Infinity, he will throw in a carbon bottle cage if you buy 2 from him:

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If anyone is doing a new bike build and wants 2 brakes I will be happy to throw in a carbon bottle cage to sweeten it a little if they order before I come to the US on November 21st.

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Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 14:04

Post #36 of 226 (28380 views)

ryans wrote:

If anyone knows of a source for a longer bolt that has the nice rectangular/oval head that recesses so nicely I would like to find one. The bolt that comes from Campy with it is only long enough for a rear brake application, and the only other bolt I had simply had a standard bolt head on it.

A standard hex head metric bolt fits in there just fine and the distance across the flats is the same (the other 2 flats sit inside of the oval cutout). The head is also slightly thicker, but there's plenty of room to clear the rear arm still.

At least that's how it worked on my Oval-branded version of the Tektro brake...I just went over to the local hardware store and grabbed the appropriate length metric hex head bolt.

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Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]

Oct 27, 11 14:06

Post #37 of 226 (28370 views)

Well, it does fit and it works just fine. Of course, the fit/finish of the original bolt was better. I had not thought about finding a longer bolt to come through the fork and will look into that option.

Ryan

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ccie1115] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 17:58

Post #38 of 226 (28250 views)

Here are a couple pictures of my setup on the Felt DA. The brake stop piece I purchased needed to be modified a little bit to try and make the cable route from the cable stop into the brake itself a little more in line. So I ended up grinding off some material from it.

The brake is the Campy center pull brake. Very nice so far.

Side View

Front View

If you need a different view or have any other questions, let me know.

Ryan

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 18:28

Post #39 of 226 (28227 views)

Seeing this set up brings up a question. I thought a lot of the aero savings was from the reduced cable housing. Is it a combination of the housing and the smaller frontal area of the brake?

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ccie1115] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 18:49

Post #40 of 226 (28195 views)

Where did you get or how did you make the stem cable hanger

Thanks

Styrrell

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 21:04

Post #41 of 226 (28139 views)

Nice set up.

How well does this brake stop and modulate? For example, in comparison to a 7800-series dura ace caliper?

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Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 21:19

Post #42 of 226 (28128 views)

was there a particular aim for your set-up? i may have missed it somewhere above.
the ONLY benefit of the centre-pull set-up is the absence of cable housing running to the brake. the way you run it you have almost the same length of cable housing, AND extra drag from the cable hanger.
a regular sram red brake (which is smaller than the rival/force brake) with gatorbrake housing would yield less drag.

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [ryans] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 21:41

Post #43 of 226 (28101 views)

Woah... wait... what do you call that type of cable hanger?

Running is a gift.

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [Jiowa] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 21:42

Post #44 of 226 (28100 views)

A mistake!

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [BMANX] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 21:47

Post #45 of 226 (28096 views)

Serious or pink font?

Running is a gift.

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [Jiowa] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 21:50

Post #46 of 226 (28088 views)

I did not use pink font.

It would have been better to run an EE brake which is about the same size but with a better cable run or use a proper cable hanger. My comment was a bit harsh I guess but that set up is totally missing the point and is most likely just worse than a normal brake set up.

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [BMANX] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 21:57

Post #47 of 226 (28067 views)

Just looked up ee brake. I think you'd be better off and save some money with a simkins brake.

And I think that brake with the bolt on cable hanger is probably better than most regular brake set ups. With the cable hanger like that the housing is inline with the fork. Why is that worse than a normal set up?

Running is a gift.

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [Jiowa] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 21:59

Post #48 of 226 (28066 views)

Well I have EE brakes so I would not have to buy them but they are smaller than you think and the cable run is great. Yes Simkins would be better.

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [BMANX] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 22:30

Post #49 of 226 (28048 views)

TRP T925 with Tektro headset cable hanger

Re: Center pull brake set ups. Lets see them [nickag] [ In reply to ]

Oct 29, 11 22:52

Post #50 of 226 (28026 views)

That is what I am talking about. I figured out how to run the back today so I will now have a center pull brake on the back and front of my new build and the back turned out better than expected.

I see you have your official "anti rattle addition to the vision levers" that is the only thing stoping me from using them on my new build. Well that and I think a return spring would be a better option for dual center pull brake set up.

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