Precisely, one is a freeking sporting event, the other is a real life and death situation. I'm not sure what you are confused about????

I don't hate Lance for doping. I actually don't hate Lance.

exactly, so why compare the two?

Who is W?

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clm
Nashville, TN
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because the point is: doping is cheating. cheating in unethical.
yet in a situation where someone dopes in sport, everyone is jumping all over the place, ready to burn the person when the only thing she affects is the result of a sporting event...it's just freaking sport...
whereas in the second situation, you cheat (break the law) run a red light and the result may actually affect the life of someone else...

ok

How many overall winners (male & female) of Ironman North American Events doped/used epo this year? Do you think any were tested?

Yes Francios, I'm sorry I disagreed with you ;-)

just don't run red lights.

and don't dope either ;-)

sometimes it's just better to go with the flow. :) I'm a lover not a fighter. ;)

that's actually a very valid proposal. WTC should consider this.
seriously, if you are PROVEN to have cheated (ie not Beke) and still want to race, then it's only for the love of the sport, nothing else...

I don't know how many people doped or not in the IMNA events but I do know they do testing. Hell, even I was tested after shuffling through one of their events this year even though it was pretty obvious I didn't use any performance enhancing drugs for that performance.

I think the bans for doping violations should be harder if the testing procedures really are accurate which seems debatable in some cases considering the latest events with false EPO-tests.

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And about as easily understood!

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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

The best solution I have heard is from a man who has worked in the field of drug testing since it was started. I do not remember all of the details of his life, but he is in the biggest lab in the world in Cali and his idea was written about in Outside Magazine about a year ago.

He has a plan that will cost a lot less than it does now, benefit athletes and WADA. It revolves around having all professional athletes enroll in a voluntary program that tests their blood several times a year for all the different naturally occurring components of our blood. Then the lab would document each test and record what part of the season the athlete was in. This way there would be a baseline and variables for each athlete and there would be almost no questioning a doping allegation. The expert who came up with this said that he could retire happy if this plan would be implemented, but as it is now the system doesn't really work.

This does not answer the question from the past dopers that are fighting their battles and still winning prize money, endorsements, and lying, but it could answer and resolve the future of sport.

By the way, Nina is a human being, and she proved that when she admitted her guilt. Anyone who would yell insulting things to her during a race is low class.

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I agree and I don't think anyone on this thread has said they would yell insulting things. I think many of us said we just wouldn't yell anything.

this is being done already in France with the 'suivi longitudinal' in cycling. implemented maybe 4-5 years ago.

all french cyclists have to abid to it. maybe this is even more refined.

Big difference Francois



Kraft has addmitted taking EPO - addmitted she cheated!



Beratesegui and Scumacher was cleared

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Espen Wagener
Kongsberg, Norway

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and you buy their excuses?? geee....how naive can you be...