Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [orphious] [ In reply to ]

Nov 20, 17 8:39

Post #226 of 343 (1905 views)

orphious wrote:

Kay Serrar wrote:

I saw that over the weekend the White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short said, when asked if Trump believed the women's allegations against Roy Moore:

"If he did not believe that the women's accusations were credible he would be down campaigning for Roy Moore. He has not done that."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/...g_for_roy_moore.html

What was dumb about the interview was that the above quote clearly implies the president DOES believe the women's allegations, and yet Marc Short twisted himself in knots avoiding saying this explicitly. It's just so sad the lengths politicians will go (on both sides of the aisle) to avoid calling out one of their own, especially when we're talking about pedaphilia FFS.

Sure would make it easy if Trump just came out and said, just like many others have, that Moore should step aside.

Maybe the Russians won't allow Trump to do that.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]

Nov 20, 17 10:36

Post #227 of 343 (1861 views)

ChrisM wrote:

Saw that as well. George stephanopolous came at him from Every angle over and over and the guy twisted on the hook but never said it.

If course now they’re saying vote for Moore to pass the tax bill

Elect a pedophile AND raise my taxes. Glad I switched from GOP to independent last year. They’re an embarrassment

Fairly convincing interview with the then-14 year old this morning:

https://www.today.com/...-went-public-t119062

Will be interesting how this moves the needle, if at all.

I'm surprised the media hasn't done these kinds of interviews with some of the Trump accusers.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]

Nov 20, 17 11:11

Post #228 of 343 (1838 views)

I'm surprised the media hasn't done these kinds of interviews with some of the Trump accusers.

I wonder how much it cost Trump to keep them from doing that...

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [orphious] [ In reply to ]

Nov 20, 17 11:19

Post #229 of 343 (1826 views)

orphious wrote:

Kay Serrar wrote:

I saw that over the weekend the White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short said, when asked if Trump believed the women's allegations against Roy Moore:

"If he did not believe that the women's accusations were credible he would be down campaigning for Roy Moore. He has not done that."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/...g_for_roy_moore.html

What was dumb about the interview was that the above quote clearly implies the president DOES believe the women's allegations, and yet Marc Short twisted himself in knots avoiding saying this explicitly. It's just so sad the lengths politicians will go (on both sides of the aisle) to avoid calling out one of their own, especially when we're talking about pedaphilia FFS.

Sure would make it easy if Trump just came out and said, just like many others have, that Moore should step aside.

It's a slippery slope towards believing women.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [schroeder] [ In reply to ]

Nov 20, 17 13:13

Post #230 of 343 (1809 views)

schroeder wrote:

orphious wrote:

Kay Serrar wrote:

I saw that over the weekend the White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short said, when asked if Trump believed the women's allegations against Roy Moore:

"If he did not believe that the women's accusations were credible he would be down campaigning for Roy Moore. He has not done that."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/...g_for_roy_moore.html

What was dumb about the interview was that the above quote clearly implies the president DOES believe the women's allegations, and yet Marc Short twisted himself in knots avoiding saying this explicitly. It's just so sad the lengths politicians will go (on both sides of the aisle) to avoid calling out one of their own, especially when we're talking about pedaphilia FFS.

Sure would make it easy if Trump just came out and said, just like many others have, that Moore should step aside.

It's a slippery slope towards believing women.

Yeah, it would be crazy to believe the women who say that Trump put his hand up their skirts and groped them, or tried to forceably kiss them, especially after Trump himself denied he would ever just grab women by the pussy.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [orphious] [ In reply to ]

Nov 20, 17 16:42

Post #231 of 343 (1774 views)

orphious wrote:

Kay Serrar wrote:

I saw that over the weekend the White House Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short said, when asked if Trump believed the women's allegations against Roy Moore:

"If he did not believe that the women's accusations were credible he would be down campaigning for Roy Moore. He has not done that."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/...g_for_roy_moore.html

What was dumb about the interview was that the above quote clearly implies the president DOES believe the women's allegations, and yet Marc Short twisted himself in knots avoiding saying this explicitly. It's just so sad the lengths politicians will go (on both sides of the aisle) to avoid calling out one of their own, especially when we're talking about pedaphilia FFS.

Sure would make it easy if Trump just came out and said, just like many others have, that Moore should step aside.

If only RM had done something really REALLY despicable and egregious ~ you know, like perhaps sitting during the nat'l anthem at a sporting event ~ then surely Trump wouldn't just let it slide... But groping underage chicks? Meh. The Don abides...

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]

Nov 21, 17 22:28

Post #232 of 343 (1728 views)

Well at least Trump finally came out against Moore...

Just kidding of course,

http://www.cnn.com/...e-alabama/index.html

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Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 4:33

Post #233 of 343 (1697 views)

Such stand up guys, the pair of them.

This just in...

"A retired Alabama police officer said she was told to keep an eye on Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore because he was known to harass teenage cheerleaders at local school ball games in the 1980s."

http://www.nydailynews.com/...rs-article-1.3648980

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 5:19

Post #234 of 343 (1683 views)

What does any of this have to with weather or not he can be a good Senator or not?

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [orphious] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 5:24

Post #235 of 343 (1681 views)

orphious wrote:

What does any of this have to with weather or not he can be a good Senator or not?

Your country is so fucked. I love watching this shit show.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [orphious] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 5:30

Post #236 of 343 (1677 views)

orphious wrote:

What does any of this have to with weather or not he can be a good Senator or not?

It can be a bellwether, though the weather has little to do with it, whether you like it or not. Now go check on your wether.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 5:35

Post #237 of 343 (1673 views)

Kay Serrar wrote:

orphious wrote:

What does any of this have to with weather or not he can be a good Senator or not?

It can be a bellwether, though the weather has little to do with it, whether you like it or not. Now go check on your wether.

LOL.. i thought it looked funny when I wrote it!

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [BLeP] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 5:42

Post #238 of 343 (1667 views)

BLeP wrote:

orphious wrote:

What does any of this have to with weather or not he can be a good Senator or not?

Your country is so fucked. I love watching this shit show.

I still scratch my head at this:

Much of AL is rural poor. Politically it makes more sense to align with Democratic/Socialist principles, especially at this time because the new tax proposals will see those earning less than $75k per year ultimately pay MORE in taxes. So the only reason to side so strongly with the Republicans is for religious (anti-abortion, anti-gays, etc.) reasons. And yet in this moment, these same religiously-principled people (many, not all), are willing to side with an alleged pedophile in this election? It makes no sense. Effectively therefore, these people care more about unborn embryos than living children.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 5:46

Post #239 of 343 (1664 views)

Kay Serrar wrote:

BLeP wrote:

orphious wrote:

What does any of this have to with weather or not he can be a good Senator or not?

Your country is so fucked. I love watching this shit show.

I still scratch my head at this:

Much of AL is rural poor. Politically it makes more sense to align with Democratic/Socialist principles, especially at this time because the new tax proposals will see those earning less than $75k per year ultimately pay MORE in taxes. So the only reason to side so strongly with the Republicans is for religious (anti-abortion, anti-gays, etc.) reasons. And yet in this moment, these same religiously-principled people (many, not all), are willing to side with an alleged pedophile in this election? It makes no sense. Effectively therefore, these people care more about unborn embryos than living children.

Or... they just don't believe the women.

Trump has trained people to believe that anything they don't want to believe is #fakenews.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [BLeP] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 6:19

Post #240 of 343 (1643 views)

Or... they just don't want to believe the women.

FIFY

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 6:21

Post #241 of 343 (1647 views)

Sanuk wrote:

Or... they just don't want to believe the women.

FIFY

That was implied with my second sentence of that post.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [BLeP] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 6:53

Post #242 of 343 (1630 views)

BLeP wrote:

Kay Serrar wrote:

BLeP wrote:

orphious wrote:

What does any of this have to with weather or not he can be a good Senator or not?

Your country is so fucked. I love watching this shit show.

I still scratch my head at this:

Much of AL is rural poor. Politically it makes more sense to align with Democratic/Socialist principles, especially at this time because the new tax proposals will see those earning less than $75k per year ultimately pay MORE in taxes. So the only reason to side so strongly with the Republicans is for religious (anti-abortion, anti-gays, etc.) reasons. And yet in this moment, these same religiously-principled people (many, not all), are willing to side with an alleged pedophile in this election? It makes no sense. Effectively therefore, these people care more about unborn embryos than living children.

Or... they just don't believe the women.

Trump has trained people to believe that anything they don't want to believe is #fakenews.

What's funny are the excuses besides the "I/he didn't do it" excuse

They did it that way in the bible
Some 14 year old girls look 20 (this one was from a pastor)
He asked their moms first
They weren't all 14, they were 16.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 6:57

Post #243 of 343 (1625 views)

What year did the most recent alleged accusation occur?

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"Look, will you guys at leats accept that you are a bunch of dumb asses and just trust me on this one? Please?" BarryP 7/30/2012

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 7:04

Post #244 of 343 (1619 views)

Well, Nixon was impeached,

Wrong. Nixon resigned prior to being impeached. Nixon was on tape obstructing the Watergate investigation and knew he would have been found guilty had he been impeached. Clinton was found not guilty by democrats and republicans.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 7:05

Post #245 of 343 (1617 views)

What year did the most recent alleged accusation occur?

Does it matter?

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 7:08

Post #246 of 343 (1615 views)

Quote:

I still scratch my head at this:

Because you’re so wrong And you probably will never realize it.

Quote:

Much of AL is rural poor. Politically it makes more sense to align with Democratic/Socialist principles...

Such and old and tired meme...

Maybe because these poor people understand that their Democrat/Socialist principles won’t ever elevate them from poverty. Maybe they understand that government handouts only keep them poor.

When I was dirt broke I knew that the way out of it was to get a job and build my “wealth” by working hard and saving my money. Democrat/Socilaist policies just made my path out of poverty that much harder.

It’s pretty easy to see that. I’m amazed that so many, like yourself, don’t.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [schroeder] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 7:09

Post #247 of 343 (1612 views)

schroeder wrote:

BLeP wrote:

Kay Serrar wrote:

BLeP wrote:

orphious wrote:

What does any of this have to with weather or not he can be a good Senator or not?

Your country is so fucked. I love watching this shit show.

I still scratch my head at this:

Much of AL is rural poor. Politically it makes more sense to align with Democratic/Socialist principles, especially at this time because the new tax proposals will see those earning less than $75k per year ultimately pay MORE in taxes. So the only reason to side so strongly with the Republicans is for religious (anti-abortion, anti-gays, etc.) reasons. And yet in this moment, these same religiously-principled people (many, not all), are willing to side with an alleged pedophile in this election? It makes no sense. Effectively therefore, these people care more about unborn embryos than living children.

Or... they just don't believe the women.

Trump has trained people to believe that anything they don't want to believe is #fakenews.

What's funny are the excuses besides the "I/he didn't do it" excuse

They did it that way in the bible
Some 14 year old girls look 20 (this one was from a pastor)
He asked their moms first
They weren't all 14, they were 16.

You forgot one...

It was 40 years ago.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Duffy] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 8:23

Post #248 of 343 (1589 views)

Duffy wrote:

Maybe because these poor people understand that their Democrat/Socialist principles won’t ever elevate them from poverty. Maybe they understand that government handouts only keep them poor.

Good to know you're so smart and I'm so ignorant. Well done boyo.

In part I'm sure you're right, but the issue is not nearly as simple as you want to make it out be. For starters, political allegiances among the poor can vary by state, religion and ethnicity.

From this article:

"The Republican platform is against abortion and gay marriage and for gun rights, important issues for lower middle class whites. Various studies also show that Americans who attend church frequently are significantly more likely to be Republican and less likely to be Democratic. Only 25% of white Protestants who attend church once a week vote Democratic. And 61% of the religiously unaffiliated vote Democratic. These statistics suggest that ideology trumps self-interest."

and...

"The Democrats must counter this ... with concrete programs that would improve the lives of the lower middle class. Since family values count very much for this group, Democrats should emphasize how the social programs supported by them - health care, free college education - would improve the lives of their children."

Meanwhile, this article suggests we are both wrong, and that poor, white voters do, in fact, tend to vote Democrat more often than not.

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 8:25

Post #249 of 343 (1584 views)

CruseVegas wrote:

What year did the most recent alleged accusation occur?

Why do you ask?

Re: Even Moore sexual misconduct allegations [Kay Serrar] [ In reply to ]

Nov 22, 17 8:38

Post #250 of 343 (1572 views)

HuffPo.

Lol.

No wonder you’re so ignorant.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

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