Brett Sutton. He is not the most popular guy, not the most educated, I could go on. I would have a difficult time with some of his thoughts. However, he has this uncanny way of mentally creating champions. I could think of a lot of coaches that would be easier to get along with, but if I wanted to win, I'd pick him.

Jonnyo knows his shit. And he's actually a nice guy too. And living here in Penticton is pretty sweet training. Lakes, great pool, gyms, rail trail, rubber track, 8km 7% climb in town, Apex Mountain an hour away for winter and summer training, world class MTB trails at 3 Blind Mice trail network.

My problem is the wine. I moved here and gained 10lbs! Life is about choices. I choose the wine!

But yes, Jonnyo is recommended.

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@rhyspencer

$500 absurd for AG or pro athlete to pay for coaching?

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

I'm undecided with this but I will go with the best,, definitely.

Really? Hold Matt Dixon's drink a minute.... $1500/pm

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29 years and counting

MarkyV without a doubt.

It was $1500/month!

both. $500 / month is a mortgage for a lot of people. definitely a solid car payment.

What would you say is average pro fee? $500 from coaches I’ve talked with is about normal. But I’ll say these are more “hands on” coaching versus simple TP over internet/text/phone (not leading workouts essentially).

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

for pros?

my rough guesstimate is somewhere around 0-300/month + % of prize purses.

it'd be very, very difficult, as a pro that's not in the top 1% of pros, to justify paying $500/month to a coach. If you pay your coach more than you earn in prize money/endorsements in a year and you really truly consider yourself a pro, you're probably doing it wrong?

i've had coaches who are on the better end of the spectrum. i've paid $200/mo up to $375/mo (briefly). the latter felt like too much for my goals at the time, which were vague and ephemeral. the former felt like too little given my motivation. it's a tough thing to judge, what is "worth it."

I can't afford Vance, but I will vouch for him. He competed itu level back in the day. So he is a coach who is able to apply his knowledge , unlike other coaches with no personal results (Sutton). Better yet, hr taught him self how to swim... So he gives hope to adult on set swimmers and can teach technique by feel (same with run). So with his proven results of top athletes, the price makes sense , as he gets lots of requests and needs to weed out the non serious athletes.

so you equate the size of one's wallet with the size of one's commitment?

that is sort of in pink, but not really.

With a nice pair of ...




Trucker hats

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"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin

nice

Price would have to vary greatly between a coach putting in say 10 hours max ($12.50/hour for Mr Vance) a week into a TP program vs someone going to the session and being with the athlete for a couple hours per day.

"Dr Michele Ferrari "

You win.

So much winning.

I would go with Desert Dude and travel to one of his aero camps.

Using/hire a coach is not only linked to performance or a wish to have improvement.
You will find big cultural differences between countries in how common it use a coach and the coach's role.
In several endurance sports, many of the to athletes are coaching them self.
Different approaches.

Holy shit!!! I sure hope there's some profit sharing with Jesse!

Shhh don't tell everyone about our secret! But yes, he is an amazing coach. Very happy with the last 4 years of him coaching me!

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2013, Paulo Sousa turned me down.
2013, Brian Stover turned me down.
2015, Joel Filliol said "OK", and charged me $600. That's per quarter, btw. I learned a lot as both athlete and coach.

Actually the highest I read on his blog several years ago was that it was $2,000 per month. I think that included a bike fit, so clearly it was worth it.

Isn’t that what 90% of us already do??

What was their reason behind turning you down? Were you going to them with a take it or leave it offer?

Uh, no. That's not how it works.