Just a tad off my LCM masters pb of 4:27.07,


4:28.5x

Time for a good lunch and back to the pool.

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Canadian Record Holder 35-39M & 40-44M - 200 m Butterfly (LCM)

You guarded at Huntington in the 70s? State or City? I was a JG with the furnisses and babashoffs. From maybe 65 to 70 or so. Ray Bray and crowd.

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Nice swim. Good luck in the rest

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State, which included Beer Can, I mean Bolsa Chica Beach. 73-75

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So meet ran way ahead and they added some break time...

200 Fly 2:16.7x M40-44 Cdn record
800 Free 9:18.xx AB Record.

400 is also AB record as well.

They had scratches so only 1 800 heat (slowish) between 200 fly and 800 free. Managed 6x100 @1:30 in between and flushed pretty good.

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Sweet.

From the way way back in the day. Pablo morales and 16 y/o Mel Stewart

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Really cool look in the wayback machine. Crappy start, slow pool, slow lane lines, holding his breath, no underwater dolphin, slow suit, no swim cap, goes out too hard and dies, and still goes 1;58 for 200M fly. His 52+ in the 100 was even more impressive, one of the all time great flyers.

This was awesome to watch. Monty mentioned "holding his breath". What's the suggested approach these days. It seems like Phelps goes for max oxygen and breaths on very stroke (Rio 2016 below):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHYAIe8nKFg

Monty, how fast do you think Morales goes with today's underwater dolphin kicks in the Rio pool, with today's suites, with a swim cap? 0.5 seconds faster per 50? 1 s per 50?

Hard to really say dev, if you give him a second per 50 then he is one of the greatest flyers of all time, so probably closer .5+..

Phelps also has a flexbile back that allows him to breathe on every stroke and keep his hips from being too low.

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The suits and cap are worth a bit, the current gen are maybe half a sec per 100 over an old Lycra speedo.

Dolphin kicks and breathing every stroke is tricky. You have to balance the increased oxygen vs the increased energy cost to lift your head and slightly worse streamline. My guess is Pools make more of a difference on the outside lanes or if you are behind. In the middle of the pool and leading, you aren't getting wave action.

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What is more important, flexibility in the neck or lumbar spine. Interesting thing is since I have been working on swimming fly, I can also hold my head up better on the bike looking forward

Dolphin kicks and breathing every stroke is tricky. You have to balance the increased oxygen vs the increased energy cost to lift your head and slightly worse streamline. //

I don't know why you think this is tricky, the jury is in and underwater dolphin and more breathing has led to faster swimming. I know because if you don't do it, you are not in the finals(or even qualifying) of any kind of meet, going all the way down to the groms. And it is probably the single biggest advance in times in the 200 and under events of all the things I have listed, and the results of more breathing on distance events is starting to point to that being a nice advantage for the 400 and up events too.

Fly isn't free. There are still a number of flyers who breathe every other stroke. I think schooling is one of them.

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5507 yards (3.12) miles in 1:20. No wetsuit. The ocean temp is near perfect. No sharks spotted. Gonna hit up Barley Forge Brewery for some fine craft beer/really good bar food and celebrate Father's Day.

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Fly isn't free. There are still a number of flyers who breathe every other stroke. I think schooling is one of them.//

I was talking more about more breaths in freestyle, but the flyers do seem to be going that way too, especially in the 200. Of course there are people that still alternate breath and hold their breath out of turns, but they become fewer and fewer as time marches on here. It begins with one, then a few, and before you know it everyone is doing it. Underwater dolphin is there now, we are in the middle of the more breaths is better cycle. Doesn't hurt either that many WR and other records are being set with the more breathing patterns.

Would be interesting to count the total number of breaths between Phelps 2008 Beijing and Morales in that 1985 video. Who knows, maybe over the first 1:52 for both swimmers they take the same number of total breaths, given the underwater = zero for Phelps and over water, he breaths more, while Morales does not do much underwater, so he can maybe breath less over water. It might all just cancel out?

100 I would do 2 down 1 up, especially in short course and 200 1/1 or 1 down 2 up...

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Canadian Record Holder 35-39M & 40-44M - 200 m Butterfly (LCM)

4:28.57 (4:27.07)
2:16.74 (2:18.22)
9:18.29 (9:17.72)

(Times from 2014 Masters Worlds)

All races swam in lane 3 in a 6 lane outdoor 50m pool from 1964. Montreal times done in one of 2 modern 10 lane pools with omega blocks. Red Deer pool is shallow at the turn end but 5m deep at the start.

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Canadian Record Holder 35-39M & 40-44M - 200 m Butterfly (LCM)

congrats! So you went faster than at 2014 Master's World's at the 200 fly. What was the delta?

2014 was 5th in my heat. Yesterday I was 1st by 10 seconds.

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I'm saying that in my opinion 250 yards per interval on chutes is too far even for a 10k swimmer. Your technique will break down and you won't maximize the benefits of the tool. I would do 10-16x 75 or 100 vs the equilent of 200/250)


I don't race 50's and only 100's on occasion. I usually race 200m to 5k. My pool 5000m is sub 60 (February 2017 and 200 fly was 2:16 LCM yesterday).

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Canadian Record Holder 35-39M & 40-44M - 200 m Butterfly (LCM)

3000 today, incl 400 kick (board, flutter kick, no fins) for time.

1000wup
400k in 6:21
200 ez
12x75 @ 1:20 d1-4
8x50 technique work
100 ez

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yesterday 7.2 mi run w/ 10k @ 8:13 pace, then 30 min stairmaster and some ab exercises.
today 7 mi run in an hour, 900 yd swim

3 x 100 on 1:30 w/u
50 kick
100 fast 1:13
50 easy swim
50 kick
100 fast 1:12
50 easy swim
50 kick
100 fast 1:10
50 easy swim

Signed up for a meet on Saturday - racing all of the free events (50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 - not in that order). I love the thousand.

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