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If someone is going to sit there and tell me it's OK to kill and embryo because there's no scientific consensus that it's human or that it's alive or some other rank stupidity, I'm not willing to engage them in a discussion about the morality of killing it, because they aren't dealing honestly from the get go.
But your argument is pointless, at least within the context of arguing with Lorenzo and Veganerd, neither or which are dumb nor are they applying cognitive dissonance.
You compared this "scientific consensus" to another and asked why not this but that.
What you are talking about is a scientific classification, which with regard to this debate, is pretty much semantic. Debating whether or not humans are causing the Earth to warm is about whether or not humans are actually doing something to cause it to warm, not quibbling over whether or not to use the word "warm" or "heat."
Now if I didn't know better, I might think you were going to attempt an equivocation argument. "Is it okay to kill a cow?" "Yes." "What about grandma?" "No." Why not?" "Because she's a human." "Okay, but aren't zygotes also humans?......GOTCHA!"
Regardless of what anyone says, a zygote is a zygote. Its replicating tissue with DNA formed from a human sperm and a human egg, and if all goes well at some point will develop organs, brain waves, have a personality, cry, poop, grow old, etc. etc.
That's what it is. Calling it human, or a fetus, or a baby, or peanut butter doesn't change anything regardless of who calls it that.
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(I don't think you have a very convincing case.)
I'm pretty sure a convincing argument for you doesn't exist in this case. =)
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