Good to know. She wants a pistol and this one cane to mind.

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I bought this pistol back in the Spring exactly as pictured sans the suppressor. I have never served in combat, but I can't see why this wouldn't be a leading contender for all of the reasons you mentioned.

This has replaced my Glock 19 9mm as my HD weapon since it has the laser and red dot and also because the stopping power is multiples of a 9mm. I do love shooting the Glock and agree with JSA about it being absolutely infallible and 'unjammable', but I love the FNX more. It is so easy to fire with easily handled recoil, minimal muzzle rise, fast follow up shots, and it is easy to put rounds in the target at 50'. There are multiple ways to carry it since it is SA/DA. Everything is ambidextrous. You can safely carry with a round chambered and decocked if that's your preference. The 12lb. trigger pull for the first round will prevent you from 'accidentally' squeezing off an unintended shot.

I. Love. This. Gun.

Greg

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I've always felt the FNH pistol line was underrated. The biggest complaint I hear is the trigger, but it is a combat pistol, not a match pistol. With that said, it looks like they are moving from DA/SA, which I have always felt is ideal for combat or law enforcement.

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They are, seriously, a study in industrial design.

Checked one out today and really liked it. I guess it's time to sell the 226.

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What size?

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Probably compact 9mm.

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That is the one I have. I would not feel underfunded with that.

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Look who is out.

http://kitup.military.com/...tol-competition.html

That leaves glock, fnh, sig and Beretta with their striker gun. To be honest, of the 4 left, ony glock doesn't have a m designation on a gun. FNH has made M16s and SAW guns forever, SIG has the M11, and Beretta is Beretta, they squeezed out SIG on cost when they won the m9 contract.

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I saw that yesterday. I'm very surprised.

That said....

Sig is technically the only entrant that only entrant has met the RFP. If the Army follows it's own criteria, Sig should be the only entrant that "can" win the contract. I didn't think, however, that the Army would follow it's own criteria so strictly. Glock has a lot of fans in the armed forces (they're super popular amongst anyone operating under SOCOM) and they certainly have earned their reputation but I don't see them winning this contract as their submittal cannot really be construed to be "modular".

Yes, the Glock has gained unofficial popularity. NAval special warfare moved to them after 20+ years with the 226.

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That was not a big surprise considering the number 1 most individually purchased pistol by guys in Naval Specwar was a glock, often in .45. Considering its cheaper, no salt water/sand issues, and idiot proof, its hard to beat as a standard service pistol. For 200 extra bucks you can get a new trigger and storm lake barrel and its the real deal. Only other pistols that i know guys will buy on their own is the USP and Sig 227, both .45.

I am slightly surprised the HK VP9 has not made a serious attempt at contracts, essentially the same as Glock but a better trigger.

I thought S&W would be a strong contender, but I'm not entirely surprised. Military Arms Channel recently did a adverse conditions test and the M&P would consistently hydrolock (fail to fire when submerged with water). That plus their initial issue with poor accuracy due to barrel dimensions and shit-triggers that had to be re-tuned made me not entirely a fan.

H&Ks have a reputation for being over engineered. Not saying that is the true or not, but it is the perception. They also tend to be very bulky compared to any other pistol. Very rugged and robust though.

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I didn't catch that. I've been a bit "out of the loop" for the last two years as I haven't had time to indulge my "other" hobby. Hydrolock is a no no for pistols. For gas operated rifles it's understandable but not for a weapon with a relatively short barrel operating on blow-back at comparatively low pressures.

Glock filed a protest.

https://kitup.military.com/...andgun-system-2.html

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On what grounds?

Do the pistols they submitted even meet the requirements of the contract? (I think those requirements were ridiculous and contrived, and I think the Glock is the no-brainer choice for a contract like this, but still.)

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I'm sure you know as others this is standard. Sig did the same against Beretta and then glock after the FBI selection. If anything it helps sig since it gives them 100 more days to get production up.

Glock would be negligent to its shareholders if it didn't exhaust every avenue. But not likely to change anything.

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The best I can ascertain, Glock is claiming it's design was improperly disregarded as not being "modular." As Forge mentions, this is SOP for these contracts and likely is just Glock doing its due diligence.

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Dumb. I get that it's SOP, it's still dumb and a waste of time. What's the point?

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One could argue that Glocks were the first modular pistol. I swapped uppers, lowers, and magazines all the time, but certainly not modular within the design parameters and at a cheaper cost.

So I suspect this goes nowhere and 100 days pass with no action.

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I agree. But, the ridiculous government procurement process provides for such protests, so, IMO, Glock has to use every avenue available.

Maybe Trump has Glock stock in one of his portfolios ...

(Sorry, couldn't resist).

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I wish The Forge was still here!

Apparently, the Army's new handgun can fire if dropped. That can't be good. Glocks never fire when dropped. Just sayin' ...


The handgun chosen to be the U.S. Army's next generation handgun can fire if dropped while loaded. Tests conducted by gun bloggers has confirmed the gun will fire if dropped at a particular angle. The testing followed a multi-million dollar lawsuit by a Connecticut police officer who alleges he was injured after his Sig 320 handgun went off, critically injuring him.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/...17-drop-test-roblem/

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The Military version is different than the civilian/police version. This issue only affects the non-military version.

TheForge is alive and well on the SigTalk forum.

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Do you have a link for that? Asking for my own edification.

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