Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!?

Sep 19, 16 11:16

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ITU Grand Final in Cozumel threw up some great performances in both the men's and women's finals. Fantastic race by Flora Duffy, bringing back importance to the bike leg in short course racing. Was refreshing to see her and the two Brits Jessica Learmonth and Lucy Hall pushing on the bike to pull away using a similar tactic employed by the Brownlee brothers in their races. Wish they (the women's race) could have done something similar in Rio but it seemed nobody wanted to. It was a hell of a finish in both races in Cozumel, the finish-line a kill zone with bodies falling all over the place, from Sarah True bearing making the line before collapsing, to a bunch of the men and Ashleigh Gentle almost collapsing.

But seems like the Men's Olympic Champion does have a softer side for his brother. The usual Alistair pot shots and rivalry with his brother seemed to take a backseat in the final few hundred meters, wish my brother was as helpfull! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhXKjHKF64w

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [kennykill] [ In reply to ]

Runningwithbees

Sep 19, 16 11:20

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Did you see his interview? Or how he threw him over the line and looked disgusted?

Classic big brother move right there. It's the old "I am going to help you because I am your brother but don't be so freaking dumb next time" I wouldn't say he is going soft though.

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 11:29

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Runningwithbees wrote:

Did you see his interview? Or how he threw him over the line and looked disgusted?

Classic big brother move right there. It's the old "I am going to help you because I am your brother but don't be so freaking dumb next time" I wouldn't say he is going soft though.

I'm sure he said to his brother "You can't even win with me carrying you"

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 11:32

Post #4 of 47 (5269 views)

I agree, I wouldn't say he was going soft because he said he would have done that for anyone else because he know what it's like to be in that situation. However, since it was his brother, one can assume he has a deeper sympathy for him. So it might be slightly true.

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [kennykill] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 11:52

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I saw what makes the Brownlees absolute animals.

1. You see Jonny pushing himself to a point thats probably incomprehensible to the rest of us.
2. Alistair rounds that corner and then doesn't hesitate stopping for him...but...
3. It wasn't a stop to see if he was okay/check on him - it was literally only to throw his arm around and drag him to the line. In a way thats like "yeah, I'm going to sacrifice my own race by not leaving you behind - but you sure as shit arent quitting either."

Last note was the DB who takes the win celebrating/fist pumping all the way to the line. Really? Congrats on third place bro.

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [wsrobert] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 11:56

Post #6 of 47 (5141 views)

I wouldn't say he was a DB for winning the race. Part of the strategy in ITU is trying to push your opponents to paces they can't sustain (but you can). So when Jonny blew up, he kept on motoring for the win. Jonny gave it his all, and that's something to respect, but don't hate the guy that played it better that day.

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [RJSuperfreaky] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 12:00

Post #7 of 47 (5108 views)

Actually I will. Have some grace in your success.

Feel free to not hate him for winning though.

"One Line Robert"

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [wsrobert] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 12:05

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wsrobert wrote:

Last note was the DB who takes the win celebrating/fist pumping all the way to the line. Really? Congrats on third place bro.

I don't think you understand how "racing" works....

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [Power13] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 12:16

Post #9 of 47 (5019 views)

I think its more upsetting at the way he celebrated not the fact that he won. Which if you win like that I think its best to just run it in and chill.

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [mknight84] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 12:20

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This is the guy that got the bronze at the olympics, correct? I'm pretty sure I remember them saying that he'd never even podiumed on the ITU circuit before that. So you can understand his excitement. First ITU podium and first win.

lol slowtwitch gonna slowtwitch

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [mknight84] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 13:30

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mknight84 wrote:

I think its more upsetting at the way he celebrated not the fact that he won. Which if you win like that I think its best to just run it in and chill.

What? It's his first win in WTS against brownlee squared and pretty much everyone but Gomez. Don't celebrate? Are you kidding me? It's not his fault Jonny blew up.

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [wsrobert] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 13:47

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wsrobert wrote:

I saw what makes the Brownlees absolute animals.

Last note was the DB who takes the win celebrating/fist pumping all the way to the line. Really? Congrats on third place bro.

You're 30 seconds away from the finish of an extremely hard race that you put your whole life into. You're running neck and neck (actually in front of) the Olympic Champion. Getting ready for a sprint. Probably a bigger moment than being a minute back in the Olympics for third. And he finds himself in the lead all of a sudden.
And he does a fist pump or three. That's being a DB???

You don't think he was in a bit of shock himself?
Have you never been in a challenging situation?
Have you never unexpectedly won something or unexpectedly lost something?

Also listen to his post race interview. He practically apologized for J.B. poor pacing and having to cross the line first instead of him.

You should probably reconsider how you judge people. Because you're terrible at it. (and yes, I realize I just judged you)

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [Grant.Reuter] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 13:54

Post #13 of 47 (4684 views)

Grant.Reuter wrote:

mknight84 wrote:

I think its more upsetting at the way he celebrated not the fact that he won. Which if you win like that I think its best to just run it in and chill.

What? It's his first win in WTS against brownlee squared and pretty much everyone but Gomez. Don't celebrate? Are you kidding me? It's not his fault Jonny blew up.

Schoemen kept pushing to the end, and was rewarded for his efforts. Brownlee tried to push it to the end, and for whatever reason blew up (weather, effort, etc.). A first podium and a win is celebration material for his effort. Winning is about making the line first, not almost there.

BUT in saying that, check out Schoeman's interview at the end of the race, he's pretty humble in how the race played out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Awns29sZEs

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [oprfcc] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 13:59

Post #14 of 47 (4658 views)

Have you ever disagreed with someone? Or is this your first time using the internet?

Schoeman could be a good dude. He could even openly acknowledge that the only reason he won that race was because Alistair stopped to help his brother (because he only won because Alistair stopped - otherwise he's still second place. So "practically apologizing" for JB doesnt really matter). Or he could be a fist pumping braggart. Seems you choose to think the former. I choose to believe the latter. Pretty cool right?

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [kennykill] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 15:11

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It didn't look to me like Alistair wasn't trying to come first at all. I know before the race he said otherwise, but what is he supposed to say? He would be destroyed by media and Slowtwitch forum users if he said he was trying to come second.

Alistair was definitely trying to let Johnny win and would have beat Schoeman if he didn't need to stop and carry Johnny. He didn't just carry Johnny to the finish line, he clearly pushed Johnny to finish before himself.

I wonder what the whole scene looked like to Richard Murray who was coming in to finish.

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [wsrobert] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 15:12

Post #16 of 47 (4448 views)

I thought slowtwitch was a safe zone. I am going to have a hard time sleeping tonight with this ptsd.

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [Arsenic] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 15:14

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Arsenic wrote:

I wonder what the whole scene looked like to Richard Murray who was coming in to finish.

You mean the guy who waited to cross the finish line until just before Mola? Seems like he was too busy show-boating for 4th to worry about the podium spots ahead of him.

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [kjmcawesome] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 15:42

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kjmcawesome wrote:

You mean the guy who waited to cross the finish line until just before Mola? Seems like he was too busy show-boating for 4th to worry about the podium spots ahead of him.

Mola and Murray are teammates. looked like they were having fun (both were grinning as they crossed the finish line). the sport needs people like Murray to keep it entertaining

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [kennykill] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 15:43

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The B's did better financially with JB finishing 3rd and getting 2nd in the WTS, than if AB wins and Johnny DNFs.

AB was there primarily to help JB, his own ambitions were secondary. It's not just smart racing, it's smart finances.

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [kristenm] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 15:45

Post #20 of 47 (4357 views)

My bad. Didn't know they were buddies. Just seemed odd for Murray to be so excited about finishing 4th.

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [Grant.Reuter] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 18:23

Post #21 of 47 (4128 views)

AB probably beats him if he wasn't trying to help JB (including 'allowing' JB to win to get the points he needed...pretty sure AB could have won if he wanted to).

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 19:18

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Younger brothers can be soooooooooooooooooooo annoying sometimes. Especially when they are almost the best in the world and you still have to carry them across the finish line or else your mother will nag you about it. :)

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [kennykill] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 19:34

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Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [Magwister] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 21:46

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Magwister wrote:

AB probably beats him if he wasn't trying to help JB (including 'allowing' JB to win to get the points he needed...pretty sure AB could have won if he wanted to).

I agree. I don't blame the winner for celebrating...but enjoy it, because that's the only way he wins it. I think AB out kicks him in the sprint and wins it, if he didn't help JB.

Re: Alistair Brownlee - Is he going soft on his younger brother!? [kristenm] [ In reply to ]

Sep 19, 16 22:02

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kristenm wrote:

kjmcawesome wrote:

You mean the guy who waited to cross the finish line until just before Mola? Seems like he was too busy show-boating for 4th to worry about the podium spots ahead of him.

Mola and Murray are teammates. looked like they were having fun (both were grinning as they crossed the finish line). the sport needs people like Murray to keep it entertaining

i don't have a problem with Henri celebrating.

Murray on the other hand was a complete DB. Standing there with JB prostrate on the ground rousing up the crowd then skipping/jumping for joy was to me too much. Sure celebrate your mate winning, but doing it how he did was a DB move.

Mario on the other hand was gracious in his victory as was Henri. Murray has totally gone down in my estimation.

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