jkenny5150 wrote:
trail wrote:
>LATE ADD: okay, how about orizaba, mexico, to pico de orizaba. 4000' to 18,500'. there's 14,500' available. i think that's do-able, bottom to top and back, in a day.
Dude. Look in your backyard. Badwater: -282'. Whitney: 14,505'. Bike the Badwater Ultra course, then run the little jaunt up to the summit. Turn around and head back. And the total is quite a bit more than 14,787', as anyone who's done Badwater can tell you.
EDIT: OK, that would be hard in one day, but some variation on it might be possible.
I think you've got a pretty good one here. In the continental US, that's the highest and lowest point, so it's a no-brainer good choice. Some of the foreign ones may have more ideal venues, but I'd rather keep it in the US.
I remember thinking the same thing when I first visited this area. We rode up from Lone Pine to the Whitney parking lot, then rode back down to the van. Then, we drove up to the top and ran the first 5 or 6 miles of the trail but turned around when we ran out of daylight (didn't start the ride until ~2PM I think). Going all the way to the top, you'll probably have to bring a lot of supplies. Having an "aid station" part way up the mountain would help. I haven't rode the part down below 3K feet, but I'm guessing that would be the hardest part. You'd want to ride the low elevations in the darkness while it's still cool, obviously.
IIRC, someone told me that you are only required to get a permit if you are sleeping on the mountain. I don't know if that's true, but I've heard of guys doing the summit and back without permits.
Honestly though, what's the point in riding back down to the place you started once you've already gone up (typically the hardest part)? I'd like to see the rules changed to a one-way uphill trip in a given time period.[/quote]
Yes, I would like to see slowman's rules changed on the downhill part. I get it from the mountaineering world that you have to get you butt down off the peak for it to count (we don't really know what happened to Mallory, but we know about Hillary and Tenzing).
Personally in the next 2 years, I am going to give the Kona to Mauna Kea summit a shot....ride form Kona to 9300 feet, then run/walk hike the final 4400 feet. I did the recce this year and I THINK it is possible as long as you don't get totally destroyed by wind. I THINK if you can make it to 9300 feet by noon or 1 pm, you have it in the bag because wind won't kill the run/hike part of the climb. I am planning to get a lift off the summit. No way I am running 7 miles back downhill. I ran 2 of those 7 miles this year and that was quad busting enough descending continuously at 15%.
All photos copy write Tim Carlson
This is the 17% section on Mauna Kea around 8500 feet up...barely going at 5 kph (34x32 gearing)
Shuffling at 15 min per miles running up the 15% gravel...really we were trying to run and both feet are not really on the ground
Downhill at 15%...that really is steep