Ok then. Sorry I didnt see that they weren't in the same age group. So now that Im in 45-49, MOP, there might be guys in my age group that are not who the results say they are. Thats wrong and thats not the way WTC has the age groups setup. Therefore it is breaking the rules. WTC should be notified and the athletes should be taken off the results list and maybe even banned for a year from WTC events.

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I'm not reading the 74 people before me but I don't see it as cheating.

Cutting the course. Getting someone to do the bike for you. getting into someones car during the run is all cheating.

The person covered the entire course. The entry was paid for.

It's not cheating.

It is against WTC rules. But lets face it. They screw others over all the time.

Would I give my entry away if I couldn't race? No
Would I take someone elses entry if they couldn't race? No

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Because of the money grabbing rules of the WTC-people can't do what would be reasonable (like getting credit toward a future race, or better than a $150 refund)

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- Hippocrates, 460-370 BC

Plain and simple, it's cheating and it's wrong.

I paid my $600+ realizing that the refund is limited and I can't transfer my bib number. I knew the risks going in.

Do what your conscious tells you, not what people on ST want you to do. Only you can decide.

Yeah! lets not pay taxes either since the goverment screws everyone over, doesnt make sense!

How would that bib being wasted with a DNS affect your race? It wouldn't! Mind your own business and don't worry about what they are doing. If they get caught then they pay the penalty, fair enough. That ISN'T cheating, just not wasting a perfectly good paid for bib - nobody is out anything here. Plus, it's not like he is running for a KQ spot.

I didn't even think about that. Just looked at all the pics and he has it on. Those are pretty easy to slide on and off, I'm guessing when it was put on the original bib owner he asked to have it loose and then slid it off with a little baby oil.

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I don't necessarily agree with this statement.

Cheating is a subset of rule breaking. Cheating gives someone an unfair advantage on the race course.

Breaking the rules may or may not give an unfair advantage. For example, if you leave the course and re-enter ) for whatever reason. But, you did not re-enter at the same place you left. In reality, you went backwards on the course and added more distance/ time. Did you break the rules? Yes. Did you cheat? Nope.

To the OP:
Is this situation 'cheating'? No
Is this situation breaking the rules? Absolutely
Is the rule for not allowing transfers fair? Maybe not, but it is consistent and predictable (which is something we want).

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Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/

Slow clap for you. Always nice to see how people are able to rationalize cheating and breaking the rules in their mind.

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So...does invoking the waiting for Godwin's law count as that invocation? Kind of a mobius strip effect?

John

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But what if they raced up an AG, that could potentially give them some advantage.

 
So...does invoking the waiting for Godwin's law count as that invocation? Kind of a mobius strip effect?

you always sound this cool bro?

WWKMD?

What would Kevin Moats do?

Just because this person finished MOP and didn't screw up the podium or KQ slots has some people here able to say they are fine with the situation. Strange value set.

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I do think some are taking this a bit too seriously. The cheater hunt is on!

Interesting ST observation here: Herbert posted a cool bike video about 20 minutes after this posting. His cool post currently only has 5 hits. This one has over 90. Just an observation here.

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How does doping in the pro ranks affect me?It doesn't but that doesn't mean I won't call a pro doper a fucking loser...A lot of things that are against the rules don't affect me but that doesn't mean I should stand by and let it slide..What does my opinion have to do with you,nothing?Does my opinion affect you no and yet you are doing the same as I am by calling me on it?


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To be fair, I'm not clicking on any thread while at work with his title. Plus, if the title doens't tell me at least a little but about what is in the thread, I have no interest.

Um, yeah, let's not pay taxes. Let's see the Gov takes 40% of our paychecks AT THE POINT OF AN AR15 RIFLE (don't believe, stop paying taxes and it won't be long before your home is surrounded by armed thugs) to give it to single moms and drug addicts. Let's see, the people, overwhelmingly men, are getting cuckolded-by-proxy while governments, corporations and banks are waging illegal wars on foreign lands for profit (and sticking us with the bill) and we are worried about some idiot racing with someone else's number?

You do-gooders step up and protest something worthwhile.
End of thread.

Oh you're one of those. Now it makes more sense.

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You're right, but ST'ers know Herbert wouldn't post anything objectionable, so I peeked. I understand what you're saying though. Maybe that's why he doesn't have as many hits.

You may not agree with my statement but the dictionary sure does.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cheating?s=t


verb (used without object)
4.
to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets.
5.
to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Pretty much everyone agrees its cheating it's just a matter of how big of a foul it is.

KyraMorgan > TravisT is trying REALLY HARD to impress you. Can you send him a PM and tell him what a good boy he is?

Sportstats gave you the solution, fire over an email with the details, and let them take it from there. It will then be off your plate and handled in an official manner away from the ST drama and debate.

Please Kyra, you know awesome that would be ;-)

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