Your logical thinking is not welcome here on Slowtwitch.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Curious if they were both in the same age group? I'll get the rope, be back in a minute!

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I have seen this happen 3-4 times this year at WTC events, some did it not knowing it was illegal and others did it any way.

Penalty starts at 1 year ban....

My suggestion would be to send an email with the bib number in question and we can go from there, send it to timing@ironman.com and this will be forwarded to the right party at WTC and USAT.
With the photos out online now this is quite difficult to do without getting caught...

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Now that is an excellent point. Id definitely tell him if he does it again you'll out him. At that point people are getting hurt. Otherwise you have better things to do than worry about a douchebag.

I went through the same thing when I came across a similar thread that happened at Augusta this year. I was ready to out the person but decided that with all the drama already caused locally that it was no use. Fast forward to today and I now know that the WTC didn't do anything about it. The group he was with is possibly dropping him. and the whole thing pretty much took care of itself, locally. He took credit for the race as well and bragged about his PR. That didn't sit well with a lot of people.

You have to decide for yourself what you think is best. I'm new to ST so I also was not ready to get on here and stir up a witch hunt. I hate it and I think it's cheating. I had never even thought about people abusing it to get into the legacy program. That makes me even more sick. But in the end for me, I had to rise above. Outing them would have caused me more grief than it was worth. Karma won this round luckily.

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Murphys Law did IMAZ???

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I don't care one way or the other, and if I knew and liked both parties, I wouldn't say anything, but I certainly wouldn't fault or look down upon anyone that did.

My question is, I know transferring a bib is easy, but how did they transfer the wristband?

No, 40-44 and 45-49.

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People print money! How hard would it be to fake a wristband? One could pry it open, or cut it, and glue it back together. No one would notice, or say anything if they noticed. Or find the supplier and buy some wristbands in different colors.

Not really. Party A (who registered) has to agree to transfer to Party B. WTC charges $X to transfer (most likely the registration cost plus a fee, say $100 to $200). Party B has to pay Party A for the registration and the transfer. Who is to say that the agreement between party A and B isn't Registration Cost + Transfer Cost + another $200? But then WTC gets more money so what do they care?

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Unless the transfer was blind there would always be the chance for you to do an out of process cash exchange.

Then again I'm quite certain that bib sales happen today, I've seen offers / requests for bibs to smaller races and we know someone podiumed at a Dallas marathon last year on a borrowed bib. So maybe with a sanctioned system it would be reduced.... maybe not.

I need to make sure to come over on this side more often and stop spending so much time in the Lavendar Room, when you guys get in an uproar it is actually fun, we just keep telling each other we are idiots.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

being that the number on my wristband was checked numerous times during IMFLA (bike pick up and special needs bag pick up) I think forging a wristband would be pretty complicated (assuming they have similar processes at IMAZ). Unless they just got a similar color wristband to walk through the starting corral on race morning, but the original athlete did everything else with the correct wristband.

Again, there are alot of ways it can be done, I was curious how it was done, not really how it could be done.

So whats your point? we do it over here also but mostly call other people idiots :0) just a technicality.

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It should be a blind process, as some other fairly large races have in place. Have a wait list, and if someone wants to pull out during some designated time period before the race, their entry goes back to the wait list, where it is then re-filled from said list.

Any other way and yes, for certain, there will be chances of some gouging/auctioning/black marketing of transfers, even with a "sanctioned" process.

killing babies is bad too. This is a tri website with tri questions.

[While I think it would be nice to be able to transfer registrations... with races selling out in 40 seconds this would create a black market in an instance.
If the WTC allowed transfers people would volunteer just to get the registration, then sell it for 2 or 3 or .... times the money.]

Yes, it would be nice but I do not see how it would create a black market if WTC controls it: i.e. introduce a transfer window of X days X months before the start of the event and the transfer must be done through WTC web site for a fee ( I am using Ottawa race weekend as an example here that allows to transfer 1/2 marathon registration for a 1 week period about 1 to 2 month before the start of the event for $15 through EventsOnline website).

Fred.

Whats the age group situation? Are they both in the same age group? i didnt see that anywhere in the thread. I think its cheating, and both should be turned in. I raced IMAZ in 45-49 males AG. I would not like to know that 15 or 20 of those guys ahead me were actually just there on paper and I was actually beat by a bunch of younger guys. No, I was not anywhere close to a roll down slot but if people start all racing under different names and age groups it will seriously delete the integrity of the AG classification and legacy program.

I think I would out them both. Im surprised a Tri club president helped facilitate this.

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I can't speak for Kyra and don't know if they were in the same age group but you bring up a couple of interesting points.It would not surprise me at all if somewhere there is someone who has raced in Kona after another person qualified for them.


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WTF?

Fred.

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No, 40-44 and 45-49.

It does make me feel better about being slow, knowing I raced my AG, without testosterone or cutting the course!

You choose to live where you do, Kathy. You're not going to make me feel guilty because you choose to live in a developing country and see this shit on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. You live in Mexico, I live in California....again I'm fairly certain by choice.

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I hate to hijack, but I would hate more to start a new thread for this one question, BUT speaking of racing Kona potentially illegally.....If someone who was pro in 2011 raced say IMAZ, IMFLA or IMCoz, then in 2012 lost their pro card and qualified for Kona in the early part of 2012. Can they legally race in Kona in 2012 since it was not a year from their last pro race?