Not sure how I feel about this. Last couple years this was a relatively small local race (no pro field for example) for a good cause, parking and getting the family in and out of the race was nice and easy. I guess this year the logistics are going to be a bit crazier. Still, gotta figure its good exposure for the cause. If its chilly, which it was last year, I'm very curious to see how the pros and Lance handle their gear setup; I had a friend last year who said that during the bike and run he was the coldest he'd ever been while racing due to gear mismanagement. I didn't end up that bad, but was definitely very cold on the first half of the bike.

I can't believe a major player like Rev3 would put their necks out there like this. WTC absolutely made the right call by not changing their rules when he was first prohibited to WTC races due to their own rules of prohibiting those under investigation for doping from competing. And, after being sanctioned, for a major race organization company to toss the sports NGB to the side in order to enable a doper to race makes absolutely no sense to me.

I hope that the reasoned opinion by USADA comes out between now and Half Full with all the juicy tidbits that Lance didn't want to contest under oath.

I wonder what kind of testing they'll be doing they'll be doing at Half Full.

Frankly, I couldn't give a rat's ass what LA does. Race away if he can find races that will take him. But, it is absolutely perplexing to me that Rev3 would put their necks out there like this. Really dumb, imo.

Scoop: money buys everything.

I wish RDs were like Uli.

Before all this I would've thought WTC would stick with LA. They've always had a rocky relationship with USAT and probably need USAT less than any other race promotor in the US.

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The big joke is that everyone seems to pretend that LA racing is the only way or best way to raise money for cancer.
What a freaking joke!

There is still a pro field which does include Richie Cunningham who has been outspoken in support of USADA. Lance isnt racing in it, Im assuming because he'd have to have a valid USAT elite card, which he doesnt have.

If he is just "racing" to raise money, I have mixed feelings.

If he is racing in the pro field for money, or even against AGers for ranking, then that is just wrong.

Dopers suck. Nuff said

fine literally is too strong a word. He regularly had all sorts of different drugs in his body not used as intended, without a prescription, with the intention to cheat at sports. fair enough?

If there are a bunch of people around it would be challenging, not because of Lance but because of how it would affect others on their race day. But if somehow I was face to face with him and I only had to worry about his reaction on race day, yes I believe I could say that.

Because all those people who use those drugs as treatment are coming down with cancer. Stop digging your hole deeper on this one. We'll all know you hate him but at least stick with your rational arguments.

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Has anyone asked if the organizer is willing to refund the full entry fees of anyone withdrawaing because they're allowing a convicted doper to compete?

Was this origninally a sanctioned race, with the organizer opportunistically unsanctioning it in order to get Armstrong's participation? If that is the case, then would that be an additional ground to support a refund?

Which leads to the real question, is there anyone who is withdrawing because of this?

If pick6 isn't sticking to his guns and pulling out as outspoken as a critic as he is I doubt there are going to be many.

And judging from the twitter activity I see on my feed since this came down there are going to be additional people signing up now. Small sample of course but I'd bet it holds true over a larger one.

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Pick6 seems to hate Lance the most of anyone and he isn't withdrawing.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

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Im undecided. I emailed the people who donated for me. This isnt a race I paid for, though Im willing to throw my travel money away if I cant get it back. But the people who donated, I want their opinions. One of them responded I should do it, and that letting a doper push away clean athletes isnt the way to go, but im waiting for the majority to respond.

I signed up a couple days ago. I haven't been able to race much this year because of injuries and did IMMT, so a non-USAT event. Rev3's change here means I wont have a ranking for the year. A bit annoying

Race director sent out this email. Nothing about a refund other than 1 day USAT fees:

Greetings!


We are very excited to host you at the 2012 Rev3 Half Full Triathlon. Since day 1, the vision for Half Full Triathlon has always been to provide a platform to raise awareness and funds to support the programs and services of the Ulman Cancer Fund for Young Adults. The success of the event over the years can be directly attributed to the effort of many people who support this mission. This year we are very excited to announce that Lance Armstrong will be participating in the half distance of the 2012 Rev3 Half Full Triathlon along side many other cancer survivors.

Half Full Triathlon has always been about the fight against cancer and we're excited to welcome another cancer survivor to the field. Lance is a young adult cancer survivor and arguable one of the most vocal and visible survivors on the planet. Having him support our organization and the event will help us raise more awareness and funds around the young adult cancer issue.

After discussions with USAT, we have made a decision that it is the best interest of Half Full Triathlon that we secure insurance from another provider in order to maintain our mission focus on Young Adult cancer initiatives. We have secured event insurance that will protect the participants, staff and volunteers at Half Full.All 1 Day USAT licensing fee's will be refunded in the coming week.

We look forward to hosting you during Half Full weekend and thank you for your support!

Best in the FIGHT!

Brian Satola

I can't see the event refusing donations even if you decide not to show up.

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If you care, I am of the opinion that you should still race. That they decided to bring Lance in at the last minute doesn't change the fact that you prepared for this race.

Do the race and then never race with that RD again. Throwing away money over this is stupid.

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this.

I was very much hoping to do a Rev3 race very soon, so as to support a good product with a good price, but now I'll have to rethink that. Not at all happy w/ Rev3, and they just threw away the only thing they had going for them IMHO, the fact that they weren't WTC.

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Screw 'em all and come to Challenge Penticton!!!!

(sorry,couldn't resist)

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I agree that throwing away money over this is stupid. That is, unless you've got a lot of money to throw away.

From what I understand, however, it looks like the race was originally organized and advertised as a USAT sanctioned race, where convicted dopers would not be allowed. I think the organizer has an obligation to fully refund entry fees of anyone that now asks for one on account of this move.

I hold Rev3 blameless from what I've learned so far. The thing to remember is Rev3 partnered with UCF before Lance signed on. Rev3 is not actually directing the race, just doing the work. The race director who made these decisions is a UCF staffer, so it wasn't Charlie and Co's call. Lance isnt taking an appearance fee and is evidently donating financially to the cause, on top of likely pulling in some additional racers. I am torn on all this, but Rev3 isn't where my issues lie.

The issue is many people in the race did so as a fundraiser, so it's not just our money that went towards entry (though I put a good bit in myself). I dont have the money to throw away per se, but I still got the training out of it if I decide not to race. I think I can get hotel money back but flight is sunk cost now.

I just moved to the pacific north west... very happy about Challenge Penticton!

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I understand that but it is still a Rev3 branded event and they have no choice but to own that.

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