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What do you think Armstrongs bike split would be at Ironman? What about a finish time?
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [choobakky] [ In reply to ]
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Who cares? He really doesn't want to do it.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [choobakky] [ In reply to ]
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This has been discussed before and would depend on the course but assuming IMH...

S - 0:55ish - B - 4:30ish - R - 3:10ish - 8:45 +/- 20 mins

FWIW - I see him doing Xterra WC before IMH.



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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Keyser_Soze] [ In reply to ]
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4:30?????? Come on now. You are saying his splits would be SLOWER than the course records???

I am guessing he could ride a conservative 4:10 to 4:15

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [AJHull] [ In reply to ]
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And his swim would be faster - remember - Lance walks on water.
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [NJSteve] [ In reply to ]
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nice
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Keyser_Soze] [ In reply to ]
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I bet he would have ridden well under 4:10 this past year...But I bet Faris still puts about 8 mins on him in the water even if lance has 6 good months of swimming.
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [AJHull] [ In reply to ]
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4:30?????? Come on now. You are saying his splits would be SLOWER than the course records???

I am guessing he could ride a conservative 4:10 to 4:15



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Considering he averaged "just" 28.8 mph in his last 34 mile TT - I would put his 112 mile TT at about 4:05 give or take a few minutes...so yeah 4:15 would be no problem but he generally doesn't run 26.2 after his TT :-)



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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Keyser_Soze] [ In reply to ]
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4:30?????? Come on now. You are saying his splits would be SLOWER than the course records???

I am guessing he could ride a conservative 4:10 to 4:15



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Considering he averaged "just" 28.8 mph in his last 34 mile TT - I would put his 112 mile TT at about 4:05 give or take a few minutes...so yeah 4:15 would be no problem but he generally doesn't run 26.2 after his TT :-)
Fair enough. Also, his cycling fitness would not be at TDF level. Naturally it would wane as he takes on swim and bike training.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Keyser_Soze] [ In reply to ]
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Just remember, the more LA hears he can't do something the more he kicks butt of the non-believers. There is a whole lot of guys with their tail between their legs for doubting him. I still remember getting blown off the road by a young puke kid from texas.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Keyser_Soze] [ In reply to ]
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Considering he averaged "just" 28.8 mph in his last 34 mile TT - I would put his 112 mile TT at about 4:05 give or take a few minutes...so yeah 4:15 would be no problem but he generally doesn't run 26.2 after his TT :-)[/reply]Don't forget that TT had some signficant hills in it and some very technical descending. His 28.8 was crazy fast. You are not going to find either of those in most tris...
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [choobakky] [ In reply to ]
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With or without EPO?
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [mises] [ In reply to ]
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With. Anyone who thinks tri is a clean sport is crazy.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [choobakky] [ In reply to ]
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I think most people are afraid to admit that he has the potential to dominate IMH like he dominated the tour. It's only a matter of time and the more naysayers there are talking smack the sooner he'll do it.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Mr. Tibbs] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone who thinks tri is a clean sport is crazy.


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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Spindogg] [ In reply to ]
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I think it would be a great PR move for WTC to just issue him a standing invite to come to Kona any time, all expenses paid, if he ever chooses to do the race. Sounds like a win-win to me.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [SwBkRn44] [ In reply to ]
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Well I don't see how tri can be any diffrent they any other endurance sport at the pro levels.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Casey] [ In reply to ]
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Plus nutrition in Cycling is vastly different than nutrition in running. Not that I don't think he would have the resources to "get it" really quickly, but I don't think he would win the first time either. A marathon is a loooooong run. :)
I agree that the pros don't get nearly enough credibility and credit.
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [andrew] [ In reply to ]
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Not necessarily win for LA. Many people would see 2nd place as a failure for a 7 time TDF winner. He would have to be doing it purely for himself - a personal challenge.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [AJHull] [ In reply to ]
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4:30?????? Come on now. You are saying his splits would be SLOWER than the course records???

I am guessing he could ride a conservative 4:10 to 4:15
Farris/Read et al could ride 4:10/4:15 if it was a bike only TT. Oh yeah, there is a marathon after. Hmm. My money is on Farris unless Lance puts in 2 solid years of training which he ain't going to do.
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [andrew] [ In reply to ]
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can you imagine the PR flack from triathletes? especially after larsen 'took some age grouper's slot' this year.
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Spindogg] [ In reply to ]
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[reply]I think most people are afraid to admit that he has the potential to dominate IMH like he dominated the tour. ]

Look at John Howard - 1981 IM-H. He came from a cycling background and still took a while to learn to swim and run with the best of them before he won. Does Lance have that much time? I doubt it. He is almost past the prime age for pro triathletes (Dave Scott excepted)..

Frankly I doubt if (1) he would want to prove himself by doing IM-H and (2) even if he did, several of the current pros would run him down on the marathon, regardless of how stron he may be on the bike. Now XTerra, that is a different thing (as evidenced by his winter off road tri resutls from last winter).
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [choobakky] [ In reply to ]
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how quickly we forget. . . some years ago udo bolts did the ironman, while he was still racing for telecom. before that race, jurgen zack said "the fastest bike split this year will be by a triathlete, not a cyclist" and he was right.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [cimit] [ In reply to ]
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"Who cares? He really doesn't want to do it"

Asshole post of the day.

Well obviously choobakky does, and I am willing to bet others do. Just because you aren't interested, doesn't mean others aren't. Granted it has been talked about ad nauseum on the forum, but that doesn't mean people don't want to talk about it again. Not interested? Don't read it.
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [andrew] [ In reply to ]
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Comping Lance a trip to Hawaii isn't exactly a huge financial incentive for him. Maybe a $500k appearance fee. They could easily make it up with the increased exposure. NBC would probably turn in into a Thursday night special or something.
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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [ezrahallam] [ In reply to ]
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 "Comping Lance a trip to Hawaii isn't exactly a huge financial incentive for him. Maybe a $500k appearance fee. They could easily make it up with the increased exposure. NBC would probably turn in into a Thursday night special or something. "

I was saying to just put that standing offer out there. If he is at all interested, I'm sure between NBC, WTC, Trek, Nike, et c, the pot could be made much sweeter. The teaser on SNL shows that it has at least crossed his mind. He wouldn't go into it without being totally prepared, same as the Tour. LA isn't the kind of guy who would do it "just to do it". If he were to show, he'd be there for the win.

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Re: Lance and Ironman?? [Casey] [ In reply to ]
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"Well I don't see how tri can be any diffrent they any other endurance sport at the pro levels.

Of course you are right but many people in ST land assume everyone except Lance is on drugs and you have to toe the line or prepare for some nasty e-mails."

What you are saying makes NO sense. Tibbs said something to the effect that Lance and many pro triathletes were all on EPO, I disagreed and said to him that he had a pessimistic attitude. So you seem to agree with Tibbs but then you say that many people in ST land assumes everyone except Lance is on drugs. That's the exact opposite of what I said, my point was that I don't think triathlon is nearly as dirty as cycling.



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