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Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1?
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Hello everyone,

I have an old Felt B14 (with no upgrades) and just kicking tires wondering what the benefit would be if I upgraded to one of Felt's more premium frames.

Specifically, does anyone have an opinion if the IA 1 frame ($4,500 frame only per website) is worth the huge price jump from the IA 10 frame ($2,500)?

There doesn't seem like there is a happy medium between the $2,500-$7,000 price point. At that point you might as well save for a super bike frame like the specialized shiv, scott plasma, or Felt's FRD frame?
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Striker213] [ In reply to ]
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There is a great post in one of the IA threads that summarizes the differences and trade-offs very well. I could not find it, so here is what I remember. (I have an IA 16.)
  • Higher grade of carbon in the IA 1 (lighter and stiffer)
  • Integrated cockpit in the IA 1 (more aero, but harder to break down for travel)
  • Integrated brakes in the IA 1 (more aero, but harder to adjust)
  • If Devox is included, it is highly adjustable and very good
I could not figure out if the IA 1 frameset comes with the carbon Devox cockpit. (It is pictured with the cockpit on the Felt site.) If so, that is a huge price advantage that narrows the value gap between the two.

Edit: Found one of the posts: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=5914961#p5914961
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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exxxviii wrote:
There is a great post in one of the IA threads that summarizes the differences and trade-offs very well. I could not find it, so here is what I remember. (I have an IA 16.)
  • Higher grade of carbon in the IA 1 (lighter and stiffer)
  • Integrated cockpit in the IA 1 (more aero, but harder to break down for travel)
  • Integrated brakes in the IA 1 (more aero, but harder to adjust)
  • If Devox is included, it is highly adjustable and very good
I could not figure out if the IA 1 frameset comes with the carbon Devox cockpit. (It is pictured with the cockpit on the Felt site.) If so, that is a huge price advantage that narrows the value gap between the two.

Edit: Found one of the posts: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=5914961#p5914961

The integrated brake on the IA1 may not actually be faster than the 1A10 frame. The Devox aero bar is fast and has lots of adjustment, but it does not allow you tilt the extensions with the pads. This may allow a much faster position that makes up for using a slower aero bar that does allow this.

ERO loves the IA10 and are big advocates of it, over most of the superbikes even. With their experience with fit and aero testing, their opinion is pretty valuable.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Striker213] [ In reply to ]
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Striker213 wrote:
There doesn't seem like there is a happy medium between the $2,500-$7,000 price point. At that point you might as well save for a super bike frame like the specialized shiv, scott plasma, or Felt's FRD frame?
I forgot to comment on this question... The Felt IA is a super bike frame by its design and geometry. The wickedly cool thing Felt is doing is that they have the IA10 version which gives super bike geometry and design at a much lower price point. Specialized is doing the same with their Shiv. You could call the top tier bikes "super duper" bikes, where the "duper" is better carbon and integrated front ends on some.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Striker213] [ In reply to ]
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Funny that you ask the question. I have a 2011 B14 and have been chewing on upgrading to an IA1 for the past year. Just can't pull the trigger on it. Yet.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Striker213] [ In reply to ]
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The IA10 is a great deal. Being able to tilt the pads along with the extensions is a definite plus.

Another difference that wasnt pointed out is the IA10 has more bottle cage/accessory mounting positions. It has 3 additional bolts on the downtube, and 2 behind the seat tube. Rumor has it Felt is releasing some accessories this month, probably a storage box and maybe a few other things. I currently use a Trek draftbox behind the seat tube on my IA10, and am hoping Felt's box mounts lower.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Striker213] [ In reply to ]
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The IA10 is really a no-brainer here. Likely faster overall than the "high end" IA's, more adjustable with better geometry and, as jshanney pointed out, more options for hydration/storage. I'm not sure why anyone would choose anything other than an IAx series frame to be honest.

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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [j.shanney] [ In reply to ]
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j.shanney wrote:
The IA10 is a great deal. Being able to tilt the pads along with the extensions is a definite plus.

Another difference that wasnt pointed out is the IA10 has more bottle cage/accessory mounting positions. It has 3 additional bolts on the downtube, and 2 behind the seat tube. Rumor has it Felt is releasing some accessories this month, probably a storage box and maybe a few other things. I currently use a Trek draftbox behind the seat tube on my IA10, and am hoping Felt's box mounts lower.

Pretty sure the Trek SpeedBox or the Quintana Roo Qbox will fit the bosses on the IA10. I had an IA1 and now a FRD, if I was shopping today I would lean heavily towards the IA10, set up with TriRig front and rear. deep front wheel, disc rear....pretty fast rig for a small comparative price in superbikes.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Striker213] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the input!
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [anthonypat] [ In reply to ]
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Before you ditch the Vision Trimax brake on the IA10 for a Tririg, check what Jim@ero said about it in the IAxx thread. No difference in aero performance. And it stops like a real dual pivot brake.

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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Striker213] [ In reply to ]
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I believe Felt said that the actual IAx frame in its self is a little more aero than the "older" IA, but once you add aero bar, brakes and stuff, the IA comes out on top. With a clean set-up the IAx is probably just as fast or faster. The IA looks better though ;D

I have the IA model and it's not really difficult to travel with at all.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
Before you ditch the Vision Trimax brake on the IA10 for a Tririg, check what Jim@ero said about it in the IAxx thread. No difference in aero performance. And it stops like a real dual pivot brake.
Yep, I for one am more than happy with the Trimax brake. It's not quite as pretty as the TriRig but it stops me very well. It's be great if the brake was a little slimmer as there is undoubtedly a little turbulence off the back of the brake (bluff brake body, rounded frame LE) but it's not terrible and for all I know (not having seen one in person) the TriRig brake is similar in this respect?!
I definitely wouldn't be writing off the stock brake on the assumption the TriRig is an improvement.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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On the subject of IAx brakes... A few key considerations from my experience:

1) The IA 16 brakes are really bad. To anyone who gets an IA 16, I highly recommend a brake swap. They feel spongy because I think they are made of cheap stamped pot iron. You can make a vast improvement with just a move to Ultegra brakes for under $100 total. Or, next level up could be the Vision Trimax like from the rest of the IAx line. I went with the Tririg for all of its marketing claims: aero, adjustability, cosmetics, mechanical leverage, etc.

2) The rear brake cable routing is not good with the Bayonet 3 bars. The cable passes into the stem and under a cosmetic plate and then takes a hard turn into the frame. If the plate is tightened too much, it will crush the brake cable. The factory assembles this, not the LBS, and mine was crushed. I replaced my rear brake cable and vastly improved brake feel. I have the plate much looser now, until I get a future cockpit upgrade with better cable management.

3) The rear brake has an in-line barrel adjuster between the bars and the stem. The space is tight, and the cable needs to curve between the bar outlet and the stem inlet. The result is that the barrel adjuster causes additional friction in the rear brake line. I left that in when I replaced the cables, but I will be getting rid of that shortly with another cable replacement.

4) The Felt brake levers are pretty good. In my quest for improved braking, I also upgraded to the Shimano BL-TT78 brake levers. They are nice, but I do not think that they materially improve braking strength over the Felt levers.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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exxxviii wrote:
On the subject of IAx brakes... A few key considerations from my experience:

1) The IA 16 brakes are really bad. To anyone who gets an IA 16, I highly recommend a brake swap. They feel spongy because I think they are made of cheap stamped pot iron. You can make a vast improvement with just a move to Ultegra brakes for under $100 total. Or, next level up could be the Vision Trimax like from the rest of the IAx line. I went with the Tririg for all of its marketing claims: aero, adjustability, cosmetics, mechanical leverage, etc.

2) The rear brake cable routing is not good with the Bayonet 3 bars. The cable passes into the stem and under a cosmetic plate and then takes a hard turn into the frame. If the plate is tightened too much, it will crush the brake cable. The factory assembles this, not the LBS, and mine was crushed. I replaced my rear brake cable and vastly improved brake feel. I have the plate much looser now, until I get a future cockpit upgrade with better cable management.

3) The rear brake has an in-line barrel adjuster between the bars and the stem. The space is tight, and the cable needs to curve between the bar outlet and the stem inlet. The result is that the barrel adjuster causes additional friction in the rear brake line. I left that in when I replaced the cables, but I will be getting rid of that shortly with another cable replacement.

4) The Felt brake levers are pretty good. In my quest for improved braking, I also upgraded to the Shimano BL-TT78 brake levers. They are nice, but I do not think that they materially improve braking strength over the Felt levers.
I forgot the IA16 doesn't come with the Trimax brake (mine's an IA14) so when I spoke about the stock brake, I meant the Trimax!

I'm surprised to hear you say the factory install the rear brake cable because mine is routed very badly. I think perhaps the vendor re-routed it as I'd requested right hand front braking. The rear brake cable passes through the stem from left to right but is not routed through the length of the stem. It enters the frame vertically in front of the Calpac and squeeks badly when the handlebar is turned. It's rubbing badly and has abraded the plastic outer layer entirely off part of the cable sleeve leaving only the inner metal coil. I intend to re-route it myself as soon as I get time in the next week or so. Anyone got good advice on how best to do this? I haven't investigated yet but I presume the cable is fully sleeved within the frame and it'll be straightforward to pull out the existing inner, correct the problem section of the outer and slide in a new inner cable? Is that correct?
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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I'm surprised to hear you say the factory install the rear brake cable because mine is routed very badly. I think perhaps the vendor re-routed it as I'd requested right hand front braking. The rear brake cable passes through the stem from left to right but is not routed through the length of the stem. It enters the frame vertically in front of the Calpac and squeeks badly when the handlebar is turned. It's rubbing badly and has abraded the plastic outer layer entirely off part of the cable sleeve leaving only the inner metal coil. I intend to re-route it myself as soon as I get time in the next week or so. Anyone got good advice on how best to do this? I haven't investigated yet but I presume the cable is fully sleeved within the frame and it'll be straightforward to pull out the existing inner, correct the problem section of the outer and slide in a new inner cable? Is that correct?
Yuck, your brake routing totally sucks. But, it is pretty easy to fix. I replaced all of the cable housings on mine. There is not a sleeve inside the bar-- it is just two tubes welded together with an opening at the rear of the extension into the main bar. I put about a 30 degree bend in the brake housing, about 1/2" from the end. Then, I fed it in from the rear opening. The slight bend was enough to fish the cable through the turn into the extension tube. I got it on the first try. Then, after the cable is all the way through, cut off the portion of the bend for a clean end.

The routing issue through the stem is more a design problem than factory installation. The design is optimized to crush the cable unless the installer is careful with the routing underneath that plate and how tight they make the cover plate. I have a serious man crush on the Alpha X bars because I love the look and I think the cable handling is vastly superior to the Bayonet 3. But, I will probably do that upgrade last on my bike, after I get power and wheels.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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They Bontrager XXX brake levers are awesome. Adjustable reach and a built in barrel adjuster. Pricey but worth it IMO

WTB: TriRig Omega SV (not x). PM me if you have one :)
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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I am not sure about the IAxx models but I was told by a Felt rep at Oceanside that they were replacing rear brakes on IA frd and IA1s who were having issues with sticking/ bad acting. Mine has been fine.

The reason I recommend the TriRigs is not so much the aero properties (which I think are pretty good and I know Jim does as well) but the ability to dial in an exact rim contact...especially for those who swap training and race wheels in and out. The rear Felt brake really fails at a precise fit in my opinion. And this is coming from a guy who had a B10/ DA and 2 IAs...DA being the worse rear brake of any bike I have ever owned. But I did love the rest of it!
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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I can tell you that on my IA16 the brake cables were not installed at the factory. When it came out of the box, the base bar was separate with the cables rolled up. The bike shop mechanic has to run the cables through the stem and frame. I have no issues at all with how my rear brake works.

I never used the front brake that came with the IA16. From what I have seen elsewhere, the problem is with the brake pads. If you switch the pads out to KoolStop it is supposed to make a big improvement. I got a Vision Trimax from someone who ''upgraded'' to a Tririg. I don't know where you would buy one buy Jim@ERO has said that it costs $90.

Here is a picture of the aerobar as it comes out of the box:



You see that nothing is cabled from the factory. At least not on my bike.

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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
I can tell you that on my IA16 the brake cables were not installed at the factory. When it came out of the box, the base bar was separate with the cables rolled up. The bike shop mechanic has to run the cables through the stem and frame. I have no issues at all with how my rear brake works.

Thank you for the pic and comments. I will gently call-out my LBS owner for telling me the brake housings were factory assembled. (Although in his defense, he may have been thinking about the cables inside the bars and not the long cable through the frame. It looks like one of his guys likely over-clamped the little cosmetic cover plate on the stem. It is still a bad design, in my humble opinion. I saved the smashed cable, and I plan to show him when I go back in for a fit touch-up.

The issue with the front brake is that the calipers softer, thin metal that can flex more easily than a typical Shimano or comparable caliper. Pads may have been an issue as well, but you could feel the mushiness in the basic mechanical action.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:

I never used the front brake that came with the IA16. From what I have seen elsewhere, the problem is with the brake pads. If you switch the pads out to KoolStop it is supposed to make a big improvement. I got a Vision Trimax from someone who ''upgraded'' to a Tririg. I don't know where you would buy one buy Jim@ERO has said that it costs $90.

You should be able to get one from any vision dealer.

Trisports sells it: http://www.trisports.com/...o-brake-caliper.html

My main issue with the IA brakes have to do with the rear brake on my IA10. The Shimano 105 direct mount brake has no quick release. I ride 25mm tires and if they are fully inflated they don't easily fit between the brake pads. At home or during training its not a big deal, but if I flat during a race I'll probably forget to reinstall the wheel before fully inflating the tire.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [j.shanney] [ In reply to ]
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j.shanney wrote:
My main issue with the IA brakes have to do with the rear brake on my IA10. The Shimano 105 direct mount brake has no quick release. I ride 25mm tires and if they are fully inflated they don't easily fit between the brake pads. At home or during training its not a big deal, but if I flat during a race I'll probably forget to reinstall the wheel before fully inflating the tire.
If I can figure out an elegant way to install one of these, I may go for it: http://bike.shimano.com/...oad/105/sm-cb90.html
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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exxxviii wrote:
j.shanney wrote:
My main issue with the IA brakes have to do with the rear brake on my IA10. The Shimano 105 direct mount brake has no quick release. I ride 25mm tires and if they are fully inflated they don't easily fit between the brake pads. At home or during training its not a big deal, but if I flat during a race I'll probably forget to reinstall the wheel before fully inflating the tire.

If I can figure out an elegant way to install one of these, I may go for it: http://bike.shimano.com/...oad/105/sm-cb90.html

I've been thinking about that as well. I'm not sure if it would be better (or even easily accessible) on the underside of the frame near the rear brake or close to the brake levers.

Its much cheaper than swapping out the 105 brake for an ee brake which has a quick release. Last time I checked the ee was the only direct mount brake I could find with an integrated quick release.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [j.shanney] [ In reply to ]
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There might be enough room by the brake with the side pull 105. I swapped to the center pull Omega X, so the cable exits the frame and immediately enters the Omega cable hanger. So, I would not be able to install a quick release down there.

The easy option is in the short cable length between the base bar and stem. Depending on the length of the in-line barrel quick release, it might be OK there. Though, that junction is kind of tight and introduces brake line friction. The other area I am thinking about the space where the cable ducks into the frame, between the stem and calack box. If I carved out the leading edge of the box a little to give finger access to the QR, that might do it, and keep it hidden.

For my interim work-around, I have the Tririg brakes set with the pads a little further away from the rims. This works OK, because my Shimano BL-TT78 brake levers have a pretty high pull ratio, and the tririgs are also have a mechanical advantage to make quick contact with the rims. But, I much prefer pads close to the brake track.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Finally caught up with all this talk. Safe to say the IA 10/14/16 are essentially the same frames/carbon only that the difference is in the components of the full build and paint scheme?

I'm on the fence about getting a new frame to put my old components into. I like the idea of the integrated front end, but I've to admit I'm not the best wrench around and would like a different aero bar.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [TriZen] [ In reply to ]
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TriZen wrote:
Safe to say the IA 10/14/16 are essentially the same frames/carbon only that the difference is in the components of the full build and paint scheme?
That is correct. The underlying frame is exactly the same for all three.
TriZen wrote:
I like the idea of the integrated front end, but I've to admit I'm not the best wrench around and would like a different aero bar.
The Bayonet 3 bar on the IA 10/14/16 is actually very good. Tririg did their aero test of this and a couple others against The Alpha X, and the Bayonet 3 is one of the best. It is also very adjustible. Its big downsides are looks (not carbon) and weight (not carbon).

You can also easily swap out the cockpit. I plan to do an Alpha X upgrade on mine after I get a few other upgrades knocked out.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for that. that's what I'm intending to do or find another aero bar. Nothing wrong with the bars. It's mainly for aesthetic purposes. I'll have to see if my LBS can get me just the frame since I've enough parts here to build it up.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [Striker213] [ In reply to ]
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Does the IA 10 allow for an alternative stem or is it a proprietary fit? It is unclear to me on their website?

Cheers!
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [ktm520] [ In reply to ]
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ktm520 wrote:
Does the IA 10 allow for an alternative stem or is it a proprietary fit? It is unclear to me on their website?
There is a fair amount of commentary about this in various reviews and owners. The quick answer is yes, you can put another stem on it. But, it may not look as good. Tririg did a build with the Alpha X bars and stem, and it looks beautiful.

However, the other part of the answer added by the fitters and reviewers is "you probably will not need to change the stem." The bars give you more than enough flexibility to fit most situations. The base bar is curved downward (out of the box), so you can flip it if you want a higher hand position on the base bar.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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I was speaking to frameset that doesn't come with bars right?
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [ktm520] [ In reply to ]
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ktm520 wrote:
I was speaking to frameset that doesn't come with bars right?
Same difference. You can swap the stem if you want to. It is a standard stem. The only limitation is that the fork is cut, so you cannot raise it.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, I have a Alpha x that I would like to use if I buy the frame.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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exxxviii wrote:
ktm520 wrote:
I was speaking to frameset that doesn't come with bars right?

Same difference. You can swap the stem if you want to. It is a standard stem. The only limitation is that the fork is cut, so you cannot raise it.

The frameset is supposed to come with a longer steerer tube.

The stem on the built bike can be swapped out, but the stock stem has a low clamp height so many stems may not work so well using the precut steerer tube. The Tri rig stem is one that has been shown to work fine.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [j.shanney] [ In reply to ]
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So the debate for me is between a new P2 with 105 (take-off and sell) for $2800 or the Felt IA 10 frameset for $2500. Financially a wash or slightly in favor of P2 (with proceeds of take-offs). Aero with same build of tririg would likely also be a wash.

If Felt indeed is moving forward with some addl accessories e.g. draft box it would sway me (long course). Extra bosses with no tangible value seems like it will live on with Cervelo.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [ktm520] [ In reply to ]
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ktm520 wrote:
So the debate for me is between a new P2 with 105 (take-off and sell) for $2800 or the Felt IA 10 frameset for $2500. Financially a wash or slightly in favor of P2 (with proceeds of take-offs). Aero with same build of tririg would likely also be a wash.

So, why is the P2 rated so highly to you? It is aging legacy from an aero point of view. The current generation of bikes all smoke it. The IA competes with the P5 at a price close to the P2. Sure, Tririg got a P2 to exceed a P5 with almost $8K of upgrades to the P2 (Dash wheels, Dash seatpost, Dash Seat, Alpha X, and Omega X). But the upgrades it took to get there are multiples of the new bike price. Their aerodynamic study is pretty cool, but I am amazed that no one thought to comment that their Frankenstein P2 cost more than the P5 they were competing against.

Get an IA, and it is on par with a P5 out of the box. Or get a Shiv. Or get an Orbea. Or get an Argon. Or get a Shiv. Or get a Trek. All have P5 competitors at a P2 price.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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I am considering the updated changes in '14 to the P2 that brings it back into the discussion. I think we would be splitting hairs on the comparison with same components, unless Jim chimes in:)
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [ktm520] [ In reply to ]
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Jim: "I'm not sure why anyone would choose anything other than an IAx series frame to be honest." (Granted, it was not in the context of P2 vs IAx.)

Tririg did their P2 vs. P5 with the current generation P2. The Cervelo P2 was my top choice going in to my bike purchase. But I could not find anything published that puts it in the top tier of bikes. It is always measured against bikes like the Felt B, lower end QR, Orbea Ordu, etc. The world leapfrogged the P2 since 2014; I would not be surprised if Cervelo introduces lower-end versions of their P5 design to compete.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [j.shanney] [ In reply to ]
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j.shanney wrote:
The frameset is supposed to come with a longer steerer tube.

*Supposed* to, but doesn't; my IA10 frameset came with the steerer cut and stock stem installed. Aside from the TriRig bars and their vapor-ware SigmaX, the other stems that will fit are the Syntace Flatforce and Felt Dagger Stem (both rather heavy). I have a feeling the BLK-TEC M3 stem might fit too.
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Re: Battle of the frames: Felt IA 10 vs IA 1? [ktm520] [ In reply to ]
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Jim fit me to my IA10. After my pre-fit my main choices were the IA, and the speed concept. The P2 was another option but probably would have needed a lower stem. Jim's top recommendarions for me were the Trek and the Felt.

Picking the IA was an easy choice for me. I got a bike that's near super bike in performance at a more reasonable price point.

I'm probably a little biased because I am a happy IA owner. The P2 is a fine bike as well.

Get what fits best. If they both are good fits get the bike that you like more. If it gets you out riding more that's a good thing.
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