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Nikki Haley (Governor, SC-R) just launched her VP bid
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Experienced, generally well liked and competent female Republican Governor, Southern state, ethnically diverse, now calling for the Confederate battle flag to be removed from the SC statehouse grounds. Check, check, check, check, and check.

http://www.foxnews.com/...-to-be-removed-from/

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I live in SC and like Gov. Haley quite a lot. She has been a great governor in my opinion. She won't be a VP nominee but I can almost guarantee you that she will be in a cabinet or high ranking position should a republican be elected president.
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Sir.Vaylo wrote:
I live in SC and like Gov. Haley quite a lot. She has been a great governor in my opinion. She won't be a VP nominee but I can almost guarantee you that she will be in a cabinet or high ranking position should a republican be elected president.

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CNN has been making a big deal that the Republican Presidential candidates won't comment on whether NC should take down the flag. They seemed shocked that a party's candidates who believes in State rights won't comment on a state issue. Shocked they are.
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NCtri wrote:
Sir.Vaylo wrote:
I live in SC and like Gov. Haley quite a lot. She has been a great governor in my opinion. She won't be a VP nominee but I can almost guarantee you that she will be in a cabinet or high ranking position should a republican be elected president.


:gag:

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Old Hickory wrote:
NCtri wrote:
Sir.Vaylo wrote:
I live in SC and like Gov. Haley quite a lot. She has been a great governor in my opinion. She won't be a VP nominee but I can almost guarantee you that she will be in a cabinet or high ranking position should a republican be elected president.


:gag:


Don't get your panties in a wad.

I got him this kit to help him out:



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patf wrote:
CNN has been making a big deal that the Republican Presidential candidates won't comment on whether NC should take down the flag. They seemed shocked that a party's candidates who believes in State rights won't comment on a state issue. Shocked they are.

CNN suck goat balls. This is from last week, when I deleted their app from my phone:




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sphere wrote:
patf wrote:
CNN has been making a big deal that the Republican Presidential candidates won't comment on whether NC should take down the flag. They seemed shocked that a party's candidates who believes in State rights won't comment on a state issue. Shocked they are.


CNN suck goat balls. This is from last week, when I deleted their app from my phone:



And there are people that think he should be the next President. Sigh.

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Re: Nikki Haley (Governor, SC-R) just launched her VP bid [Sir.Vaylo] [ In reply to ]
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I left the state when Sanford was still in office, but I've heard from friends in the area that she's generally managed things pretty well and has broadened her base among moderates. As VP candidates go, I'd take her in a heartbeat over a style-over-substance Palin type.

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Just a generic gag because you're a lib or is there actually a justifiable reason for it?
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I'd do her. She certainly does more for me than Palin.
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patf wrote:
CNN has been making a big deal that the Republican Presidential candidates won't comment on whether NC should take down the flag. They seemed shocked that a party's candidates who believes in State rights won't comment on a state issue. Shocked they are.

That is SC, not NC. Big difference. SC has always been the red headed stepchild of the Carolinas. Up until recently, the only thing saving them was they had Charleston. Now, not so much.


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NCtri wrote:
patf wrote:
CNN has been making a big deal that the Republican Presidential candidates won't comment on whether NC should take down the flag. They seemed shocked that a party's candidates who believes in State rights won't comment on a state issue. Shocked they are.


That is SC, not NC. Big difference. SC has always been the red headed stepchild of the Carolinas. Up until recently, the only thing saving them was they had Charleston. Now, not so much.



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People who live in glass houses. It is nice those in Wisconsin no longer need university. Guess there is enough cheese there to make up for it.


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Guess there is enough cheese there to make up for it.

NO YOU DIDDUN!!!!
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People who live in glass houses. It is nice those in Wisconsin no longer need university. Guess there is enough cheese there to make up for it.

We have over a $1B (with a "B") surplus in the UW system. I think we'll be fine ...



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JSA wrote:
NCtri wrote:
People who live in glass houses. It is nice those in Wisconsin no longer need university. Guess there is enough cheese there to make up for it.


We have over a $1B (with a "B") surplus in the UW system. I think we'll be fine ...


And don't forget, your athletes actually attend class.
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You need to read your bills closer, or at least your state legislator's rhetoric. The exodus of your high end faculty has already begun, just like here. I personally know 10 faculty that have left this year from your state's flagship in my field.

We lost 11 the past two years. And of course only the good ones can leave. Elections have consequences. You can be glib, but good people go where the work environment is good.


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You need to read your bills closer, or at least your state legislator's rhetoric. The exodus of your high end faculty has already begun, just like here. I personally know 10 faculty that have left this year from your state's flagship in my field.

We lost 11 the past two years. And of course only the good ones can leave. Elections have consequences. You can be glib, but good people go where the work environment is good.

Ha ha ha ha! Yeah, our loss!

Don't worry kiddo, we'll be fine ...

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She's not too bad to look at either. Maybe not as much of a MILF that Palin is but nowhere near the dog that Hillary is.
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JSA wrote:
NCtri wrote:
You need to read your bills closer, or at least your state legislator's rhetoric. The exodus of your high end faculty has already begun, just like here. I personally know 10 faculty that have left this year from your state's flagship in my field.

We lost 11 the past two years. And of course only the good ones can leave. Elections have consequences. You can be glib, but good people go where the work environment is good.


Ha ha ha ha! Yeah, our loss!

Don't worry kiddo, we'll be fine ...

Such ignorance in one place. You have no idea and you are out of your element lawyer. It costs 1-2 million to bring in a science prof in startup costs. It costs over 1 million to educate one medical school student. I know I do the budgets. The superstars provide the operating costs to sustain the university. I wish you well in the dark ages. You don't have a surplus in your university system, and you won't see the effects of this for several years, but then it will be bad. My state is no better and UNC-CH generates more federal grant funds than any other public. That too shall pass.


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patf wrote:
CNN has been making a big deal that the Republican Presidential candidates won't comment on whether NC should take down the flag. They seemed shocked that a party's candidates who believes in State rights won't comment on a state issue. Shocked they are.


That is SC, not NC. Big difference. SC has always been the red headed stepchild of the Carolinas. Up until recently, the only thing saving them was they had Charleston. Now, not so much.

What's wrong with Charleston? Also you evidently have not been to Kiawah.
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People who live in glass houses. It is nice those in Wisconsin no longer need university. Guess there is enough cheese there to make up for it.

As much as it pains me to defend JSA and his ilk, your statement is incredibly ignorant of the facts.
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NCtri wrote:
patf wrote:
CNN has been making a big deal that the Republican Presidential candidates won't comment on whether NC should take down the flag. They seemed shocked that a party's candidates who believes in State rights won't comment on a state issue. Shocked they are.


That is SC, not NC. Big difference. SC has always been the red headed stepchild of the Carolinas. Up until recently, the only thing saving them was they had Charleston. Now, not so much.


What's wrong with Charleston? Also you evidently have not been to Kiawah.

Did you watch the news at all this week. Some such thing about mass shootings.


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my neighbors (here in Madtown) are top profs&researchers in medical biology, they bring in millions of dollars in research . . . they got an offer from another U and they are gone . . . all happened in 2-3 months
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windywave wrote:
NCtri wrote:
People who live in glass houses. It is nice those in Wisconsin no longer need university. Guess there is enough cheese there to make up for it.


As much as it pains me to defend JSA and his ilk, your statement is incredibly ignorant of the facts.

And your university background is what? Are you as informed as his politicians? I been doing this shit for 30 years. And I know where the money goes and how it flows. But you guys go on spouting some uninformed stuff. I see the numbers, and they are not good. I do presentations on this stuff. I've got all the data from 50 states, I have statistically analyzed it all and presented it to multiple political legislatures. You threaten the best professors with budget reductions and threaten their tenure, they will leave you in a heartbeat. Plenty of states that don't think like that.


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LorenzoP wrote:
my neighbors (here in Madtown) are top profs&researchers in medical biology, they bring in millions of dollars in research . . . they got an offer from another U and they are gone . . . all happened in 2-3 months

Yeah, we lost one of our best to Iowa State the other day. Hell he got a $50K raise and a bunch of bennies. But the politicians know how to run academia. You may not like how we run, but this is a multibillion dollar business that generates stuff like the RTP in the triangle. You mess with them and they will move on. Someone always wants them. For some reason you guys think everyone is a history or english prof. Most of the guys I know make over a $1 million a year as professors. Their base salary is not of interest. They simply want to work in a good environment.


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Such ignorance in one place. You have no idea and you are out of your element lawyer. It costs 1-2 million to bring in a science prof in startup costs. It costs over 1 million to educate one medical school student. I know I do the budgets. The superstars provide the operating costs to sustain the university. I wish you well in the dark ages. You don't have a surplus in your university system, and you won't see the effects of this for several years, but then it will be bad. My state is no better and UNC-CH generates more federal grant funds than any other public. That too shall pass.

We have a huge surplus. We had teachers in the UW system who taught between 0 and 1 classes per semester. Professors are not "fleeing" the UW system. They are being weeded out.

I finally get it. You are a public employee in academia. It is all making sense now...

Thanks for your concern, but we'll be fine.

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LorenzoP wrote:
my neighbors (here in Madtown) are top profs&researchers in medical biology, they bring in millions of dollars in research . . . they got an offer from another U and they are gone . . . all happened in 2-3 months

We'll be fine.

Governor Walker has faced intense, widespread criticism since announcing plans to cut the University of Wisconsin System’s budget by a whopping $300 million in his upcoming biennial budget.
The Governor argues that the System—which as recently as two years ago had a secret $648 million slush fund—can afford to do more with less, and that professors should be doing more work and teaching more courses to earn their lucrative salaries.
Naturally, UW System President Ray Cross called that ridiculous and said that the state needs to invest even more in faculty members.
Perhaps Cross might want to consider this: Governor Walker earned $143,871.52 last year. That would make him the 408th highest paid employee in the University of Wisconsin System. That’s right, there are 407 people in Wisconsin’s universities that made more money last year than Wisconsin’s Governor.
In fact, there were 1,713 employees who made more than $100,000, 349 who made more than $150,000, 110 who made more than $200,000, and 33 who made more than $250,000 last year.
Cross himself earned $525,000—more than three times the Governor’s salary.
The highest-paid professor earned $306,030. According to publicly available University of Wisconsin-Madison class schedules, he didn’t teach a single course during the fall semester, and is not teaching any courses this semester—instead overseeing graduate students as they write their theses.
The second-highest paid professor also teaches economics at Madison and made $296,085. He taught two classes last semester and the same two this semester, though he did teach one with another professor.
That professor made $232,583 himself yet is not teaching a single course by himself this semester.
The ten highest-paid professors in the UW System all teach at Madison and earned an average salary of $269,253 but are only teaching a total of 15 different courses. Four of those ten professors are only teaching one course, and only one is teaching three.
One might be tempted to suggest that such a light workload only exists at the top of the faculty salary scale, but a look at the ten professors with salaries closest to the Governor’s $143,000 is even more revealing.
They earned an average of $143,813 but only taught a total of 12 courses. While they did oversee internships, direct research, and guide independent study, they were only in the classroom for 12 courses.
In fact, a UW Madison survey of 191 faculty members last February revealed that they spent an average of just 14.1 hours per week in the classroom.
Moreover, UW System schools are in session an average of just eight months per year, as both students and professors alike get roughly one month off for winter break and more than three months for summer in addition to at least two days off for Thanksgiving and a week off for Spring Break during the school year.
Yet 407 UW System employees make more money in those seven months than the governor of the state makes in 12, and many professors who do spend just a small fraction of the time that they actually are on campus in the classroom.
In light of that, does Governor Walker’s call for a less bloated, more efficient UW System at which professors spend more time teaching really seem that ridiculous?

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sure we'll be fine, we were planning on being better than fine.
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Good god, you can't be that stupid. They are not teachers. Like every other line of work there are tiers of employees. Some teach, some research. Good luck getting those dudes that work 100 hrs a week in their labs teaching 4 classes. Have fun in cheese country. Personally I don't care anymore. Wait till they start taking away stuff from attorneys cause, you know, any idiot can draw up a will.


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NCtri wrote:
Good god, you can't be that stupid. They are not teachers.

Ha ha ha ha ha! Wow! Just, wow!

NCtri wrote:
Like every other line of work there are tiers of employees. Some teach, some research. Good luck getting those dudes that work 100 hrs a week in their labs teaching 4 classes. Have fun in cheese country. Personally I don't care anymore. Wait till they start taking away stuff from attorneys cause, you know, any idiot can draw up a will.

Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't tell anyone, but you can get software off the internet that will prepare a will for you ...

The next President of the United States is going to be a dude who doesn't even have a college degree. And that, my friend, is all you need to know about the value of higher education ...

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sure we'll be fine, we were planning on being better than fine.

The next President is going to be a guy who doesn't even have a college degree. Yep, you are going to be FAR better than fine!

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JSA wrote:
LorenzoP wrote:
sure we'll be fine, we were planning on being better than fine.


The next President is going to be a guy who doesn't even have a college degree. Yep, you are going to be FAR better than fine!

Good god the level of stupidity here I would not have even put toward your posts. Who taught you, you friggin idiot? Yes let us fall down to the vocational level. No one needs attorneys anymore anyway. I can do it all on the internet.


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The next President of the United States is going to be a dude who doesn't even have a college degree.

Huh. Maybe that's why he doesn't make as much as all those college teacher folk.









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You seem like a great guy. The kind everyone enjoys being around. You're modest, very pleasant, respectful - just a pleasure.
But you are the typical triangle guy!
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I don't live in the triangle. Not even close.


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NCtri wrote:
JSA wrote:
LorenzoP wrote:
sure we'll be fine, we were planning on being better than fine.


The next President is going to be a guy who doesn't even have a college degree. Yep, you are going to be FAR better than fine!


Good god the level of stupidity here I would not have even put toward your posts. Who taught you, you friggin idiot? Yes let us fall down to the vocational level. No one needs attorneys anymore anyway. I can do it all on the internet.

I was taught by the UW system! See why we need to weed them out?!?!?!

I have an B.S in engineering from a public university. The partner in the office next to me as a B.A. in literature from a private university and paid nearly twice what I did for my degree. We are both now lawyers making about the same each year. Neither of us have done anything with the horrifically over-priced undergrad degrees we obtained. Both of us are in basically the same position. How did we get full value for the ridiculous price we each paid for our college degrees?

A HUGE percentage of college grads would have been far better served going to a technical school. College education is becoming a joke.

Even so, Enterprise, like many employers, still finds today’s college graduates severely lacking in some basic skills, particularly problem solving, decision making, and the ability to prioritize tasks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...s-before-graduation/

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vitus979 wrote:

The next President of the United States is going to be a dude who doesn't even have a college degree.

Huh. Maybe that's why he doesn't make as much as all those college teacher folk.

Ha! That's pretty good!

How is that fancy undergrad and Harvard Law degree working out for President Obama, who makes less than those UW profs as well?

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NCtri wrote:
windywave wrote:
NCtri wrote:
patf wrote:
CNN has been making a big deal that the Republican Presidential candidates won't comment on whether NC should take down the flag. They seemed shocked that a party's candidates who believes in State rights won't comment on a state issue. Shocked they are.


That is SC, not NC. Big difference. SC has always been the red headed stepchild of the Carolinas. Up until recently, the only thing saving them was they had Charleston. Now, not so much.


What's wrong with Charleston? Also you evidently have not been to Kiawah.


Did you watch the news at all this week. Some such thing about mass shootings.

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
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The partner in the office next to me as a B.A. in literature from a private university and paid nearly twice what I did for my degree. We are both now lawyers making about the same each year. Neither of us have done anything with the horrifically over-priced undergrad degrees we obtained.

Other than get into law school, of course . . .









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NCtri wrote:
windywave wrote:
NCtri wrote:
People who live in glass houses. It is nice those in Wisconsin no longer need university. Guess there is enough cheese there to make up for it.


As much as it pains me to defend JSA and his ilk, your statement is incredibly ignorant of the facts.


And your university background is what? Are you as informed as his politicians? I been doing this shit for 30 years. And I know where the money goes and how it flows. But you guys go on spouting some uninformed stuff. I see the numbers, and they are not good. I do presentations on this stuff. I've got all the data from 50 states, I have statistically analyzed it all and presented it to multiple political legislatures. You threaten the best professors with budget reductions and threaten their tenure, they will leave you in a heartbeat. Plenty of states that don't think like that.

So UW is going to disappear? My understanding is they are making UW resemble every other Big10 system with regard to purchasing and funding decisions.
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Good god, you can't be that stupid. They are not teachers. Like every other line of work there are tiers of employees. Some teach, some research. Good luck getting those dudes that work 100 hrs a week in their labs teaching 4 classes. Have fun in cheese country. Personally I don't care anymore. Wait till they start taking away stuff from attorneys cause, you know, any idiot can draw up a will.

So university professors aren't supposed to teach? No fucking wonder college costs so much. Did you draw up your own will?
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The partner in the office next to me as a B.A. in literature from a private university and paid nearly twice what I did for my degree. We are both now lawyers making about the same each year. Neither of us have done anything with the horrifically over-priced undergrad degrees we obtained.

Other than get into law school, of course . . .

That's my point! Academia protects its own. It is all a big, ridiculous scam. Lawyers joke about this all the time. (I am sure other professions do as well). You have high-paid lawyers who have undergrad degrees in under-water basket weaving from NorthbyNorthwestern State University and guys with $200,000 Ivy League theoretical degrees and guys with engineering degrees, etc. It is a joke! It is a scam.

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The partner in the office next to me as a B.A. in literature from a private university and paid nearly twice what I did for my degree. We are both now lawyers making about the same each year. Neither of us have done anything with the horrifically over-priced undergrad degrees we obtained.

Other than get into law school, of course . . .

Law school is all about LSAT scores.
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Law school is all about LSAT scores.

Yeah, that's what all my friends who tested right into law school right after high school are always telling me.









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Just to summarize the reasons that we either do or don't want Nikki Haley to be vice president:

she is messing up the Wisconsin university system
RTP is in the triangle
NC is above SC
Charleston is in her state
she makes it too expensive to become a lawyer
Sarah Palin is hotter
she should have gone to technical school instead of college
academia is paying some folks $1-2 M (that's an M) a year
she does not have a will
[any number of the reasons in JSA's-imitation-of-BW-post, which I didn't read]

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Law school is all about LSAT scores.

Yeah, that's what all my friends who tested right into law school right after high school are always telling me.

Will rephrase, your LSAT score is the biggest factor in determining whether one is granted admission to law school . . . . Two kids with 4.0 GPAs: a kid with a 180 from podunk U will get in over a kid from Harvard with a 160.
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NCtri wrote:
Good god, you can't be that stupid. They are not teachers. Like every other line of work there are tiers of employees. Some teach, some research. Good luck getting those dudes that work 100 hrs a week in their labs teaching 4 classes. Have fun in cheese country. Personally I don't care anymore. Wait till they start taking away stuff from attorneys cause, you know, any idiot can draw up a will.


So university professors aren't supposed to teach? No fucking wonder college costs so much. Did you draw up your own will?

You truly are a non-reading freakin idiot. Yes actually I did draw up my will as well as several of my family. Wills are not rocket science. Someone needs to remove you from the gene pool before it is too late.


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Have I not been paying attention to your posts in the past, has someone hacked your account, or bad day?

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NCtri wrote:
windywave wrote:
NCtri wrote:
Good god, you can't be that stupid. They are not teachers. Like every other line of work there are tiers of employees. Some teach, some research. Good luck getting those dudes that work 100 hrs a week in their labs teaching 4 classes. Have fun in cheese country. Personally I don't care anymore. Wait till they start taking away stuff from attorneys cause, you know, any idiot can draw up a will.


So university professors aren't supposed to teach? No fucking wonder college costs so much. Did you draw up your own will?


You truly are a non-reading freakin idiot. Yes actually I did draw up my will as well as several of my family. Wills are not rocket science. Someone needs to remove you from the gene pool before it is too late.

Sweet dude hope it doesn't go to probate also you probably didn't plan it tax efficiently. . . .but more to the point you completely ignored my question about professors teaching.
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lol. Perfect summation.








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I'll take a stab at your question.

It depends on the school, the department, and the professor. Some professors never teach any classes. These are generally research professors who spend 100% of their time doing research. Other professors are referred to as teaching professors who spend the majority of their time teaching. And, of course, you have gradations of everything in between (just like hat etiquette......= ^ ). There's also a third category that is related to service toward the department. This could be, for example, reaching out into the community and building relationships, which is neither teaching nor research.

Some universities place a higher emphasis on teaching, while others place a higher emphasis on research.

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LorenzoP wrote:
my neighbors (here in Madtown) are top profs&researchers in medical biology, they bring in millions of dollars in research . . . they got an offer from another U and they are gone . . . all happened in 2-3 months


Yeah, we lost one of our best to Iowa State the other day. Hell he got a $50K raise and a bunch of bennies. But the politicians know how to run academia. You may not like how we run, but this is a multibillion dollar business that generates stuff like the RTP in the triangle. You mess with them and they will move on. Someone always wants them. For some reason you guys think everyone is a history or english prof. Most of the guys I know make over a $1 million a year as professors. Their base salary is not of interest. They simply want to work in a good environment.

Interesting insights.

Which states would you consider magnets for the cream of the crop?

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NCtri wrote:
LorenzoP wrote:
my neighbors (here in Madtown) are top profs&researchers in medical biology, they bring in millions of dollars in research . . . they got an offer from another U and they are gone . . . all happened in 2-3 months


Yeah, we lost one of our best to Iowa State the other day. Hell he got a $50K raise and a bunch of bennies. But the politicians know how to run academia. You may not like how we run, but this is a multibillion dollar business that generates stuff like the RTP in the triangle. You mess with them and they will move on. Someone always wants them. For some reason you guys think everyone is a history or english prof. Most of the guys I know make over a $1 million a year as professors. Their base salary is not of interest. They simply want to work in a good environment.


Interesting insights.

Which states would you consider magnets for the cream of the crop?

Moving target. And not who you would expect. Couple years ago Wyoming was flush with oil money. They hired two of ours. Tennessee hired 4 of ours. Places like Auburn and Oklahoma get huge donations (30-40 million) and then can hire the best. It really just depends. The big time schools generally can hire who they want, but a lot of people would rather be a big fish in a small pond. And I only know the Bschool field. I'm at a mid-level so we bleed good faculty. My major prof went to Oklahoma for a 4 million dollar chair. Another on my committee went to Michigan State for a $3 million chair. The public really doesn't know how this works. And executive Ed is stupid silly in terms of compensation. Those guys can do 20K a day. BTW, none of this applies to me. I'm plebian. Research one institutions in nearly any state can come up with the cash. That is what is alarming about these drastic cuts to budgets. Universities are 90% salary give or take. You take 30% out of the budget, you are really messing with operations. And most places are running with 60% adjuncts making starvation wages.

Science and Engineering are completely different critters. A good patent can bring in millions to a university. But their startup costs are just incredible.

Arts and Sciences profs have way lower salaries. An English tenure track (if you could get it) might be $45K. Business would never start at a large university below $100K. Medicine is more. It is an interesting business to be in.

I apologize for being arrogant, I had a very bad day. I'm generally not that big of an ass. An ass, but not that big.


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People who live in glass houses. It is nice those in Wisconsin no longer need university. Guess there is enough cheese there to make up for it.


We have over a $1B (with a "B") surplus in the UW system. I think we'll be fine ...



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What I meant to say was, Nikki Haley just tanked her VP bid.

Haley Faces Conservative Backlash After SOTU Response

Trump And Supporters Hit Back At Nikki Haley's Jabs

Nailed it!

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The Republicans better sink her fast. She's coming off as moderate, clear thinking. That will alienate the vocal minority of republicans whose vision for fixing America, though not yet fully hashed out, typically includes a Jesus riding on a mustang, shooting a AR-15 at heathen muslims.

If you ever doubted that the Republican are a hot, stinkin' mess just look at what is happening. We are in an election year and instead of discussing moderate, rational candidates (i.e. Chritie, Rubino, Fiorina or Haley ) that actually have a chance of winning the general election by taking the swing votes from Hillary Clinton, the leading Republicans are playing a populist game of trying to out crazy each other.


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What I meant to say was, Nikki Haley just tanked her VP bid.

Haley Faces Conservative Backlash After SOTU Response

Trump And Supporters Hit Back At Nikki Haley's Jabs

Nailed it!

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Yes because that approach has won so many elections lately.

You might want to check the latest polls on how many independents and dems said they would vote for Trump. It may give some of the out of touch a way to gauge the general discourse ofnthe country.


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Smart move. He's the obvious choice for her brand of politics (among those who stand a chance), and she would round out a Rubio ticket quite nicely.

http://www.cnn.com/...ndorses-marco-rubio/

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vitus979 wrote:
Law school is all about LSAT scores.

Yeah, that's what all my friends who tested right into law school right after high school are always telling me.


I'm a year late on this but it popped back up and thought I'd reply to this: a friend of mine in college was a HUGE slacker, smartest kid I've ever met but never went to class, routinely dropped out of courses, by the end of each semester he'd wind up with 2 completed classes. Took him seven years to get through and to this day I don't know if he actually got a diploma. Regardless, he took the LSAT's on a whim and scored in the 99.9 percentile. He started getting letters from the best law schools in the country asking for him to apply. He now teaches the LSATs because he's still a huge slacker. But his college 'degree'--if he even has one--didn't matter one bit, he could have gone anywhere he wanted just off his LSAT scores--provided he got the required college diploma that really didn't matter at all for him. And frankly, I spent some time taking mock LSAT exams and they're a joke, you don't need a college degree to do well on the LSATs and, by extension, do well in law school. I'm with JSA on this one, the bloated tuitions contribute to bloated professor salaries and massive university admin departments, there is no need for that crap when half the diplomas aren't worth the shitty paper they're printed on once those kids reach the 'real world'.
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Nice summation, shame everyones gone off topic on some university stuff.

But how many posts and no picture? I'm more shocked than a lactate intolerant professor at a the UoW.

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