TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta

Oct 21, 14 7:44

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"TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta"

Wow, terrible idea. Beta is pants, not finished and missing functionality.

Beta goes live (which is isn't ready for) and prices go up "to pay for the new functionality" (new functionality being the removal of existing functionality)

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 7:45

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"We will continue to add brand new features in addition to bringing over the Power Profile Chart, Annual Training Plan (ATP), and Virtual Coach (VC)"

Its not a brand new feature, its an existing feature that you have not implemented yet in the new look and feel..............

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 8:13

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Still can't view two calendars side by side in the beta either.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Kevin in MD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 9:34

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Kevin in MD wrote:

Still can't view two calendars side by side in the beta either.

My renewal came up this week. This beta has motivated me to find alternatives to TP (and hopefully cheaper). I may still end up with TP if it's a better fit for me, but their move from beta has caused me to look at competing programs. I talked with one coach this past weekend about TP. His coaching firm moved everybody away from TP. He said he knows there were at least 200 athletes (via coaching) moved away from TP. I guess there was some backdoor talks among coaches about the new TP so they all started to seek alternatives. This is on the cycling/mountain bike racing side not triathlon and it's also hearsay. I just found it interesting that three years ago, most were praising TP, now today most are recommending something else.

If you want people to embrace change, you have to have a product that is better than the one your are replacing. Right now, the beta is not better.

_________________________________
The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 9:57

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This is a case where ignorance is bliss. I have only been using TP for several months & I have only used the new beta version. Personally, I like it & for me, this will have zero impact. Maybe I was missing out on several cool features all this time, but if they were going away anyway, it's probably for the best that I never got hooked on them.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [TheGupster] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 10:18

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Care to share what they moved to?

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Meathead] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 10:20

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Meathead wrote:

Personally, I like it & for me, this will have zero impact.

You'll pay more. Sounds like an impact to me.

Formerly TriBrad02

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 10:46

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My TP membership just renewed today, and I got that "moving out of beta" email.

I did not see anywhere where prices were going up, can you point me toward that?

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 10:47

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So have they been in beta for years now or what?

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [pyrahna] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 11:49

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pyrahna wrote:

Care to share what they moved to?

Good question. There are so many - I mean SO MANY - different ways to track your activities, but what else is there to plan? I just signed up for TP premium again as I'm heading into an Ironman year. I did a little searching before I did that, but couldn't find anything.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [TriWithT1] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 11:55

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Beta - Does not have summary settings where you can customize your weekly summary ( I like to view time and distance ) .... Not That I can find anyway...

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [TriWithT1] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 12:27

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For planning addaero solo looks pretty good. They don't have much back end analysis though. same thing for workoutlog.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [TriBrad02] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 12:42

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TriBrad02 wrote:

Meathead wrote:

Personally, I like it & for me, this will have zero impact.

You'll pay more. Sounds like an impact to me.

My premium membership is included with my coaching, so unless he passes the cost along to me, I'm still at zero impact.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Meathead] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 13:59

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http://sporttracks.mobi/coaching

So that happened.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [sporttracks] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 14:01

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sporttracks wrote:

http://sporttracks.mobi/coaching

So that happened.

Funny, I just signed up for SportTracks last week when it was announced that you now auto sync with Garmin Connect, but I haven't really played with it enough to know what SportTracks is beyond what I already get from Garmin, TP, & Strava.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [sporttracks] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 16:22

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sporttracks wrote:

http://sporttracks.mobi/coaching

So that happened.

Looks great,

except for the fact that I sent an email asking a question a week ago and never received a reply.

Prices don't matter if the service quite literally DOES NOT respond to customer questions.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Kevin in MD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 17:04

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Absolutely Kevin.

We're proud of our service and support record, typically responding and closing support issues within 24 hours. It's one reason our customers are thrilled by our service vs. the "big guys".

That said, it's possible your issue somehow slipped through the cracks. I've checked in our support ticket system, both resolved and pending, email inbox, email trash and spam folders. I don't find any record of any emails from Kevin Joubert or any variant on your name or email recorded in our system.

That likely explains why you never got a response :\

I'd recommend shoot us another email. If you can please also forward the old email with headers so we can check with our email service provider to see if there was a transmission glitch somewhere, or perhaps an overly aggressive spam filter.

Cheers!

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 17:55

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i love the beta and haven;t had any problems

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Kevin in MD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 18:07

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Kevin in MD wrote:

sporttracks wrote:

http://sporttracks.mobi/coaching

So that happened.

Looks great,

except for the fact that I sent an email asking a question a week ago and never received a reply.

Prices don't matter if the service quite literally DOES NOT respond to customer questions.

Just signed up and synced my entire GC history. I dig it so far.

Paul
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The GORUCK Challenge Ruined My Life

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [sporttracks] [ In reply to ]

Oct 21, 14 18:14

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what service do you offer for coaches? I have a hard time finding the info on the website? but perhaps I m not looking at the right place?

Jonathan Caron / Professional Coach / ironman champions / age group world champions
Jonnyo Coaching
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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [cobalt] [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 14 6:38

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Quote:

Beta - Does not have summary settings where you can customize your weekly summary ( I like to view time and distance ) .... Not That I can find anyway...

I can't find anything for that either. I'd like to be able to change colors and get rid of the light grey for planned duration, tss, etc. It's hard to read.

Beta is growing on me.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [triguy12] [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 14 7:07

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Generally, I concur. They've been helpful and I'm more pleased with TP than Garmin Connect.

-Robert

"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." ~Anne Frank

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [jonnyo] [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 14 7:33

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jonnyo wrote:

what service do you offer for coaches? I have a hard time finding the info on the website? but perhaps I m not looking at the right place?

@JonnyO - I assume you're asking about SportTracks? I don't want to derail the TP thread too much but...

For coaching: Basically we're pre-release right now - collecting coaches interested in training platforms. Those that sign up will get emailed monthly(~ish) feature updates and the chance to define and drive our feature priorities in the next few months as we light this sucker up (as well as free services during the development phase).

None of this has been publicly announced and we have no marketing materials.. yet. In fact I'm probably going to get a bit of grief for leaking this info on slowtwitch. :|

Where things stand now: coaches can connect with athletes, view their workout data as well as creating planned workouts, and communicate with athletes around their data.

Our high level roadmap looks like:

1. planning + data analysis [done] >>> 2. monitoring + communication [next week] >>> 3. supporting coaches who have LOTS (~50+) of athletes >>> 4. business development

#3 is all about scaling the online coaching relationship: allowing coaches to focus on exception cases vs having a lighter touch with athletes in the green zone; letting coaches manage data and messaging in bulk with customized automation.

#4 is intentionally vague but *could* span from coach website creation & SEO, customer acquisition (CRM-ish features, bulk mailing services), content creation and management (coach videos, blogs) and even handling athlete billing for the coach. No promises here, this is a few months away.

We've got a slightly different engineering philosophy than TP. We typically push out continuous feature updates on a 2-4 week cycle instead of year long "big bang" style projects. So you won't get a "Coaching is done!" email - it will be more like a continuous stream of "Now you can do this."... "Now you can do this."... "Now you can do this."

It seems to work for us.

Thanks for asking and listening. Cheers!

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [sporttracks] [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 14 8:28

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sporttracks wrote:

jonnyo wrote:

what service do you offer for coaches? I have a hard time finding the info on the website? but perhaps I m not looking at the right place?

@JonnyO - I assume you're asking about SportTracks? I don't want to derail the TP thread too much but...

For coaching: Basically we're pre-release right now - collecting coaches interested in training platforms. Those that sign up will get emailed monthly(~ish) feature updates and the chance to define and drive our feature priorities in the next few months as we light this sucker up (as well as free services during the development phase).

None of this has been publicly announced and we have no marketing materials.. yet. In fact I'm probably going to get a bit of grief for leaking this info on slowtwitch. :|

Where things stand now: coaches can connect with athletes, view their workout data as well as creating planned workouts, and communicate with athletes around their data.

Our high level roadmap looks like:

1. planning + data analysis [done] >>> 2. monitoring + communication [next week] >>> 3. supporting coaches who have LOTS (~50+) of athletes >>> 4. business development

#3 is all about scaling the online coaching relationship: allowing coaches to focus on exception cases vs having a lighter touch with athletes in the green zone; letting coaches manage data and messaging in bulk with customized automation.

#4 is intentionally vague but *could* span from coach website creation & SEO, customer acquisition (CRM-ish features, bulk mailing services), content creation and management (coach videos, blogs) and even handling athlete billing for the coach. No promises here, this is a few months away.

We've got a slightly different engineering philosophy than TP. We typically push out continuous feature updates on a 2-4 week cycle instead of year long "big bang" style projects. So you won't get a "Coaching is done!" email - it will be more like a continuous stream of "Now you can do this."... "Now you can do this."... "Now you can do this."

It seems to work for us.

Thanks for asking and listening. Cheers!

So you only care to provide support to coaches with 50+ athletes? Those of us who only have 6-10 are left to fend for ourselves? I would think there are a hell of a lot more coaches out there with less than 50 athletes then there are athlete production mills like CTS and Coaching Bible, etc....

Dave Stark
dreamcatcher@astound.net
USAC & USAT level 2 certified coach

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [karma] [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 14 8:51

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karma wrote:

So you only care to provide support to coaches with 50+ athletes? Those of us who only have 6-10 are left to fend for ourselves? I would think there are a hell of a lot more coaches out there with less than 50 athletes then there are athlete production mills like CTS and Coaching Bible, etc....

Hah. Sorry for the confusion. I phrased that poorly. :)

Yes. We will primarily aim at coaches with smaller numbers of athletes. From coaches approaching us, the vast majority fall into the 4-10 athletes range.

I meant to say that in our roadmap we are planning specific features to let coaches (who choose) increase this ratio by making their athlete management workload A LOT easier.

From a software standpoint it should be easy for a coach to manage a small handful of athletes. You can essentially do it now, even with our pre-release. Sign up. Connect. Start planning workouts.

However, once you get into bigger numbers it becomes a pain and requires special consideration. Imagine getting an email reminder from 50 athletes every time they finish their workout. Or rolling out weekly plans for 50 athletes. Even something simple as "click the publish button" becomes a non-starter with 50 people. Go to athlete page, click calendar, click publish. Repeat 50 times. Nope.

So we envision these features will also let some coaches think - "with these tools, maybe I can handle another 3-5 athletes without sacrificing my service? lets try and see."... at least that is our ambition.

On the other hand the business development features meets the opposite market. Those big guys will all run their own full strength websites, take credit cards, yadda. Whereas coaches in the 4-10 range... lets be honest - how many times do you click a website link for a coach and find something that stepped out of a time machine from 2005?

There are some cool scenarios where we can just take that concern completely off the table for a coach. You do what you do best - TRAINING - we will make sure you have a modern, professional web presence and that other nonsense.

Cheers!

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [sporttracks] [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 14 13:54

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sporttracks wrote:

3. supporting coaches who have LOTS (~50+) of athletes

I don't know what they are, but someone with that many clients is not a coach.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 14 14:19

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A few corrections to some things stated in various posts with in this thread...

1. the price is not going up
2. the HTML5 version is coming out of beta
3. the current Flex version is not going anywhere, you will continue to have access to it.

"We will continue to add brand new features in addition to bringing over the Power Profile Chart, Annual Training Plan (ATP), and Virtual Coach (VC)." Yes Power Profile, ATP and VC are not new features as they currently exist in the Flex version but there are other features which are new coming.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Watt Matters] [ In reply to ]

Oct 22, 14 14:21

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If you are a full time coach, managing 50 athletes with various levels of coaching commitment (weekly vs. monthly) isn't uncommon.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 1:53

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rbuike wrote:

A few corrections to some things stated in various posts with in this thread...

1. the price is not going up
2. the HTML5 version is coming out of beta
3. the current Flex version is not going anywhere, you will continue to have access to it.

"We will continue to add brand new features in addition to bringing over the Power Profile Chart, Annual Training Plan (ATP), and Virtual Coach (VC)." Yes Power Profile, ATP and VC are not new features as they currently exist in the Flex version but there are other features which are new coming.

Previously an upgrade to the UI has been used as an excuse to bump the price. Who doesn't expect the same now?
What it should have been seen as an attempt to retain customers as the offering was falling being the curve.

The flex version is going to be retained for the few years until the HTML5 version is finished?

And these new features that are being brought in - going to guess "cannot discuss the roadmap". Vapourware.......

Now please do revert to your usual personal insults of people who aren't won over by beta.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [sporttracks] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 5:45

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sporttracks wrote:

http://sporttracks.mobi/coaching

So that happened.

I've been testing it for a little since I discovered it, so far I like it but I can't say if I'm moving from TP to ST - time will tell. But the interface is much cleaner than TP, and the current fact that I need to switch back and forth between new and classic on TP when I want to adjust settings is not ideal.

Please fix calories being imported as "0" on Suunto ambit TCX files ;)

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 6:22

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The price is not going up, I'm not sure where in the thread it was posted but it is not changing. Do prices go up over time, yes. But the HTML5 version coming out of beta won't cause prices to go up.

The Flex version will be available until the HTML5 version is feature equivalent. This has been repeated over and over and over again.

I'm not hurling insults, I'm just correcting some things that were said. I spend some of my free time here helping people with TP related questions, that's all. If you could see my ST message box it is filled with messages asking for assistance, including at least one from you :)

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 6:40

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I use Training Peaks as an athlete and as a coach.

1.
My price is not going up. I do get a choice of another plan though.
2.
I can still use the Classic version and by all accounts that isn't going anywhere, I assume until all the existing functionality is ported over. I do have another option which is the cleaner looking new version. So now I get a choice.

I kind of know what the fuss is about - there is a new version, everyone would like the new thing.

But if it does't quite work for you yet then just use the old one. As it is all Training peaks did is give you an extra choice of version, which will improve over time, and an extra choice of payment plan. Saying "Training Peaks offered me something extra ... I'm out of here!" is a bit strange isn't it?

I think there is a bit of familiarity breeds contempt going on. The more you use something the more you get annoyed that it does't do exactly what you personally want. I get like that very quickly. I haven't found anything better yet.

That said .... communication between coach and athlete AND the coach and the team of athletes via the coaching interface is something that no-one has managed yet I don't think. There is a new program, Training Tilt, which goes some way to address that with their athlete dashboard but even they bow down to Training Peaks when it comes to data, they even log their athletes directly into Training Peaks and use the TP calendar. TP is almost an essential part of their site.

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https://www.thisbigroadtrip.com

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 11:30

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The elimination of ngb per-athlete discounts for coaches is a pretty big price increase.

For those people whose coach pays for the trainingpeaks membership, at least some of them will see their prices go up. Depends on whether or not the coach is willing to eat the added cost.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 11:36

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rbuike wrote:

The Flex version will be available until the HTML5 version is feature equivalent. This has been repeated over and over and over again.

You can keep repeating it but no one will or should believe you, particularly if they were around for the first big upgrade.

We were told the same thing when flex came out, "Oh we'll move all the functionality over to flex, don't you worry!"

Didn't happen, my bet is it won't happen this time either.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Kevin in MD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 11:59

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One could argue they learned from that mistake but if I spent my time getting upset about things that might happen I'd be a very angry man...

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 12:04

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Any idea when they are going to move WKO+ 4.0 from the vaporware aisle to the you can now purchase it aisle?

I mean it's almost a full year late.

Brian Stover USAT LII
Accelerate3 Coaching
Insta

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [desert dude] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 12:09

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The last update Gear posted stated "end of year" which would mean the next 9 or so weeks.

Vapourware is a fun word to use but the latest versions have been shown publicly in the last few weeks.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 12:17

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My bad. Wispy, thin vapors that wear on you bc you can't put your hand on them.

BFD that it's been shown publicly.

TP still took it in the ass on this, possibly twice or three times those dirty bastards, with the non roll out roll out of WKO 4.

You call it a fun word I call it the truth and a failure on TP's part since I can't get a copy 10+ months after I should have been able to. End of the year means it's only 54 weeks late.

Failure.
EDIT: Don't read this with any malice, I just find it funny that people are willing to defend a HUGE failure on TP's part.

Brian Stover USAT LII
Accelerate3 Coaching
Insta

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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [desert dude] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 12:24

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In reality there were two choices, release something buggy and missing key features or delay to get it right. It's a lose/lose situation for all.

I worked for Microsoft when Vista was released and let me tell you I wish we had waited :)

EDIT to reply to your edit :) - I'm not defending anything, I've been waiting just as long as everyone else :)

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [desert dude] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 12:28

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For what it's worth I saw and got to dig into what seemed like a polished product at Interbike, some powerful stuff.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Founder: BestBikeSplit
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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Mrcooper] [ In reply to ]

Oct 23, 14 12:32

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Hunter Allen was recently in NZ delivering training using WKO4 as well. It does look really good, and my last bit of info (before Interbike timeframe) was that there were a couple bugs to be ironed out.

Maybe we need a countdown timer to midnight (Mountain Time), December 31, 2014 :)

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Kevin in MD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 7:00

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Kevin in MD wrote:

The elimination of ngb per-athlete discounts for coaches is a pretty big price increase.

For those people whose coach pays for the trainingpeaks membership, at least some of them will see their prices go up. Depends on whether or not the coach is willing to eat the added cost.

$10 a month is not a "pretty big price increase" and it's the first coaching price increase in 10 years :) And it only affects a small number of coaches who were on the Premium Only plan. The majority of coaches who use Unlimited Basic client with a few Premium clients will see a small price drop. The following is straight from the horses mouth so to speak.....

Unlimited Basic Coach ($49 +$9 per premium athlete, unlimited basic athletes) is now Coach Edition Unlimited ($49 + $9 per premium athlete with one free premium athlete, unlimited basic athletes) so coaches on this plan are going to see a decrease monthly cost of $9 if they have more than one Premium athlete.

Coach Edition is limited to 5 athletes ($19 + $9 per premium athlete with one free premium athlete, up to 4 basic athletes) so the max this coach could pay for his/her 5 athletes is $55/month which is $10 more per month compared to using Premium Only ($9 per premium athlete)

If a coach was Premium only with more than 5 then their monthly cost will got up $40 per month as they get moved to Coach Edition Unlimited which will they see a price increase of $40, or about $4 per client if they had 10 Premium athletes.

Full details are posted here.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 7:03

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Can anyone comment on the plusses of TP over Golden Cheetah?

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [robabeatle] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 7:08

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This thread is like Angry Birds .... without the Birds.

https://www.pbandjcoaching.com
https://www.thisbigroadtrip.com

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Jaymz] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 7:20

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Jaymz wrote:

This thread is like Angry Birds .... without the Birds.

So a typical ST thread then? :) /Pink

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [robabeatle] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 7:35

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robabeatle wrote:

Can anyone comment on the plusses of TP over Golden Cheetah?

Apples and oranges. Golden Cheetah is not multisport and lives on your local computer. TP is multisport and lives on the cloud. I use TP premium for overall tracking of training across all my sports and day to day analysis. After a couple of abortive attempts I've recently been immersing myself in Golden Cheetah and finally feel like I have a handle on it. It took me some time to get past the dense interface (it is a free program, after all) but it has a lot of power for in depth bike power analysis. If you want to do things such as aero field testing or look at different critical power or PMC models, etc., GC is the place to go. The tools in TP are good enough for most analysis, the interface is much more user friendly, and it gives you the multisport big picture which is important for most of us.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Watt Matters] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 12:14

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Watt Matters wrote:

sporttracks wrote:

3. supporting coaches who have LOTS (~50+) of athletes

I don't know what they are, but someone with that many clients is not a coach.

Agree. That would be too much.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [NewfieBullet] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 12:18

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It depends....

A full time, head coach for a team might have 50+ clients with the assistance of multiple assistant coaches and still be under one account. This would be pretty common. A single coach with 50+ clients, well they'd be REALLY busy ;)

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 12:21

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rbuike wrote:

It depends....

A full time, head coach for a team might have 50+ clients with the assistance of multiple assistant coaches and still be under one account. This would be pretty common. A single coach with 50+ clients, well they'd be REALLY busy ;)

Yes, that could be done for sure. But not as a one man show!

The lone coach in that situation would require numerous assistant coaches, IMO. Unless the programs were cut and paste instead of individualized!

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 12:21

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When does this go into affect and is there an email notice of the fee structure changes?

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

DreamBigTriCoac

Oct 24, 14 12:33

Post #51 of 121 Views: 7160

Isn't the price going up for those of us coaches that just use pay per client accounts? As far as I understand that option will no longer be available and the cost to host the new option is more expensive whether you have more clients or not.

Owner of Dream Big Triathlon Coaching LLC
http://www.dreambigtriathloncoaching.com/

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [DreamBigTriCoac] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 12:43

Post #52 of 121 Views: 7156

Yes, the Coach Editions will go up a bit. $2 per user per month up if you have 5 Premium athletes when you move to the Coach Edition (5 athlete limit). If you have more than 5 and you move to Coach Edition Unlimited it'll be no more than $5 per Premium athlete per month, less if you have more than 10 Premium athletes.

The Athlete Edition is not going up in price.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [sentania] [ In reply to ]

Oct 24, 14 12:45

Post #53 of 121 Views: 7152

sentania wrote:

When does this go into affect and is there an email notice of the fee structure changes?

You should have gotten this email (or one similar) to the address associated with your coaching account. I don't know the exact date.

"We are contacting you to let you know about upcoming changes to the pricing structure and billing dates of your TrainingPeaks coaching account. Read the following details to see how these changes will affect you. Please note that no action is needed from you at this time.

New Coaching Structure

Currently, you are paying $49/month for Unlimited Basic Clients (UBC). In the coming months your account will be transitioned to a new option called Coach Edition Unlimited. You will be prompted in your account to select this new option and update your billing information.

How these changes affect you:

Pricing will remain $49/month with the inclusion of 1 Premium account. You will still have the option to add Premium athletes for $9/month. A new volume discount structure will be available.

Your bill will now be processed at the end of each month. Over the next few months, your Coach Edition Unlimited charge will be prorated through the end of that month. This is being done to align all payments into a single charge.

As you can see, there is no change in the pricing, and in fact we are including more features with this option. The biggest change you will likely see is the date of processing for your billing.

New Coach Edition Option

In the coming months we will also roll out a new option which we are calling Coach Edition. This option includes 1 Premium athlete account plus 4 Basic athlete accounts for only $19/month. You can also add Premium clients for $9/month. If you choose, you will have the option to switch to the Coach Edition option through your account settings.

Please see our FAQ page for more detailed information on what this may mean for you.

We fully understand the impact this may have on your business, and we want to assure you that we are committed to making this transition as smooth as possible. Please contact our Customer Success Team to discuss any questions you may have regarding this change. We greatly appreciate your continued business and support of TrainingPeaks.

See you on the road,

Gear Fisher

CEO "

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Kevin in MD] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 6:29

Post #54 of 121 Views: 7054

Kevin, thank you for mentioning the Addaero Solo platform. You are correct, we provide data analysis at a very high level. Our coaches that require additional analysis use 3rd party software or use the direct link to Garmin that is in every Garmin based workout result. We differentiate from Training Peaks in an number of areas, most important how workouts are built, communication between the coach / athlete and coach / group, and pricing.

Cheers
- Addaero Solo Team

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 6:39

Post #55 of 121 Views: 7049

We are fortunate to have a number of coaching groups that have 50+ clients. Most of these clients have more than 1 coach managing the communication and athletes training plan. Efficiently managing the communication between the coach and athlete is generally the most difficult barrier to overcome as the client base expands. Email communication becomes unwieldy due to the sheer number of emails generated from each completed workout. It is interesting to observe each coach's workflow as their coaching business grows and the demand on their time increases. It is all about efficiency. Here is a blog post we penned recently on communication within the software http://blog.addaero.com/...d-path-to-community/

- The Addaero Team

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Jaymz] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 6:46

Post #56 of 121 Views: 7032

Jaymz, I recently read your post about the communication between the coach and athlete via the coaching interface. We rolled out a communication tool over the summer that addresses this issue. Sorry for the marketing spiel but I felt it was important to let you know that it exists - here is our blog post on the release http://blog.addaero.com/...d-path-to-community/

Currently we support coach to athlete communication, coach to coaching group, coach to group, and group member to group member. This new functionality has been very well received.

Cheers,

Addaero Team

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [TriWithT1] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 7:24

Post #57 of 121 Views: 6990

I just did an interview with Joshua Ross from Addaero. Its a great coaching and athlete tracking tool. Others have mentioned that it doesn't quite have the back-end analysis but I've not found that to be a problem. I typically use golden cheetah and others like Strava for that. The price is MUCH better and they do a great job meeting the needs of coaches. The ability to plan, drag and drop workouts, manage a number of athletes, create group plans, add strength training is more is FAR superior to Training Peaks in my opinion. (QT2 Uses it for their training) I was an old user of Training peaks and switched to beta when they first moved over. I gave it a good six months and after many feature requests and bugs went unanswered I just dropped it all together.

If you want to listen to the interview we did a pretty darn thorough job in explaining the service. Josh also gave us discount code that you're free to use.

Podcast: http://www.duyoutri.net/...hua-ross-of-addaero/
Discount Code: http://www.duyoutri.net/sponsors/

Keith Burtis

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 7:31

Post #58 of 121 Views: 6983

rbuike wrote:

The last update Gear posted stated "end of year" which would mean the next 9 or so weeks.

Vapourware is a fun word to use but the latest versions have been shown publicly in the last few weeks.

This crowd, Steorn, demonstrated a perpetual motion machine...................
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 7:32

Post #59 of 121 Views: 6982

Thanks for stealing the thread back from the Addero crowd ;)

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [addaero] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 8:46

Post #60 of 121 Views: 6949

addaero wrote:

Jaymz, I recently read your post about the communication between the coach and athlete via the coaching interface. We rolled out a communication tool over the summer that addresses this issue.

Looks like it might address some of the issues. Is there a video shopping it in action, it's a bit hard to see how it actually works from a screen grab. Or is there a demo account set up I can try?

https://www.pbandjcoaching.com
https://www.thisbigroadtrip.com

Last edited by: Jaymz: Oct 30, 14 8:47

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Jaymz] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 10:11

Post #61 of 121 Views: 6921

Jaymz, here is the overview video of the Addaero Solo activity feed https://addaero.zendesk.com/...-Video-Activity-Feed. This functionality was developed in collaboration with a core group of endurance coaches.

You are welcome to sign-up for a 14-day trial and try Solo. If you need more time please let us know and we can extend your trial.

Cheers,

Addaero Team

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [ddave] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 12:09

Post #62 of 121 Views: 6879

Power Profile has been added....

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [addaero] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 16:37

Post #63 of 121 Views: 6832

addaero wrote:

Jaymz, here is the overview video of the Addaero Solo activity feed https://addaero.zendesk.com/...-Video-Activity-Feed. This functionality was developed in collaboration with a core group of endurance coaches.

You are welcome to sign-up for a 14-day trial and try Solo. If you need more time please let us know and we can extend your trial.

Cheers,

Addaero Team

Thanks. Back and forth communication between coach and athlete is such a fundamental part of the training process I can't believe that other areas are not built on top of that foundation. Not being able to communicate and be alerted to the fact that some communication has taken place is weird. Glad to see it is being addressed.

https://www.pbandjcoaching.com
https://www.thisbigroadtrip.com

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Jaymz] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 16:44

Post #64 of 121 Views: 6823

Anytime you want a demo just let us know - info@addaero.com. Your question promoted one of our team members to write a blog post on the coach / athlete feedback loop. Check it out when you have a moment.
http://blog.addaero.com/2014/10/30/improving-the-coach-athlete-feedback-loop/

Cheers,
Addaero Team

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 30, 14 16:58

Post #65 of 121 Views: 6815

Hi

I see the option for Power Profile and have selected various dates but it tells me that no power info is available during selected date range. Power info is there, I have a peak power graph showing me the correct info. I have changed the dates to this year, last year and various other dates but to no avail.

https://www.pbandjcoaching.com
https://www.thisbigroadtrip.com

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Jaymz] [ In reply to ]

Oct 31, 14 10:43

Post #66 of 121 Views: 6721

Power Profile is based on Watt/Kg so I'm guessing you don't have a weight entered. Create a Metric entry with your weight and you should be good to go

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Oct 31, 14 12:40

Post #67 of 121 Views: 6690

Got it, thanks.

https://www.pbandjcoaching.com
https://www.thisbigroadtrip.com

Last edited by: Jaymz: Oct 31, 14 12:41

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 5:34

Post #68 of 121 Views: 6599

And as expected TP goes out of BETA and now I can't use it. All I get is a blank screen.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [stodr] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 5:42

Post #69 of 121 Views: 6595

Quote:

And as expected TP goes out of BETA and now I can't use it. All I get is a blank screen.

I got the same thing. With classic the flash player crashes all the time. With beta I get a blank screen. I can't win.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [stodr] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 5:43

Post #70 of 121 Views: 6595

stodr wrote:

And as expected TP goes out of BETA and now I can't use it. All I get is a blank screen.

Try again using your browsers "porn" mode (aka Incognito, InPrivate, Private). If it works there then you need to clear your browser cache.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 5:51

Post #71 of 121 Views: 6588

Do you know if they're going to be moving over the weekly goals or is that going away? I always give my athletes a few goals each week, but it doesn't look like I can do that in beta.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Supersquid] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 5:55

Post #72 of 121 Views: 6585

I'm not sure but there is a list of questions/coming soon items here. If the answer isn't there let me know and I will find out.

http://help.trainingpeaks.com/...erview-Video-and-Q-A

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 6:23

Post #73 of 121 Views: 6566

The new interface is much nicer, congratulations. Glad to see that selections & zooming in stacked graphs now works properly, that was my biggest hurdle in the beta interface. What about averages on the dashboard charts, that's missing and something I liked.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 6:35

Post #74 of 121 Views: 6560

Still no go in private mode. Also my computer deletes all cookies and temp files and browsing history when I exit explorer.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [stodr] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 6:50

Post #75 of 121 Views: 6554

What version of IE?

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 7:01

Post #76 of 121 Views: 3872

10

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [stodr] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 7:35

Post #77 of 121 Views: 3858

stodr wrote:

10

OK if it doesn't work in Private Browsing mode then I'm not sure. Submit a support request and someone will get it sorted for you. IE10 is a supported browser.

http://help.trainingpeaks.com/anonymous_requests/new

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 12:35

Post #78 of 121 Views: 3813

I noticed that when I view a workout and select one of the peak power levels (ex. 10min), it doesn't update the totals above based on the 10min section. That is different than how classic works. Is this something that will be fixed? I would like to be able to see power, hr, cadence, IF, VI, etc.. for the selection. Glad to see power profile in the new version now.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 12:45

Post #79 of 121 Views: 3807

Any idea when they are going to sort the upload issue from Polar RS800cx watches? When I upload a run from the watch it says 'unknown activity' and calculates TSS based on HR, not run pace. However, if I upload it into TP Classic then it's fine. I emailed the support desk and apparently it's a 'known issue'. It's been a couple of months since I emailed them so I really would have hoped it was fixed by now. I didn't mind too much when it was in Beta, I just went straight into classic, but now I have to log into Beta, then transfer to classic it's a PITA.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [mjengstrom] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 14:43

Post #80 of 121 Views: 3770

mjengstrom wrote:

I noticed that when I view a workout and select one of the peak power levels (ex. 10min), it doesn't update the totals above based on the 10min section. That is different than how classic works. Is this something that will be fixed? I would like to be able to see power, hr, cadence, IF, VI, etc.. for the selection. Glad to see power profile in the new version now.

Check the box it highlights the section on the map and graph but if you click on Peak 10min (or whichever data set you want to view) it will show the totals for that section.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rmt] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 16:11

Post #81 of 121 Views: 3751

Thanks. I figured it out. You have to click the label and not the checkbox to make it work. Just clicking the checkbox doesn't recalculate the totals.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 17:10

Post #82 of 121 Views: 3720

Part of the issue TP has is the lack of weekend support. Historically, new releases or cut overs with TP have been met with frustration on many coach's part, having at least a 24 & maybe a 72 hr delay from TP in response time (depending on when you submit your trouble tickets to them). IF I were Gear/Dirk (are you listening?) I suggest that each release TP comes out with, to have on call staff handling incoming tickets/issues with a damage control staff on hand to be able to fix whatever issues may crop up. From a customer support standpoint, this is a no brainer & should be in place already. A triage team on call for issues should be dealt with in real time to tackle a fix be it coding or simple account issues. TP is large enough they can afford support for something that potentially could drive more business away per some of the posts who have opted to look elsewhere for tracking software.

I see there are new tracking softwares coming out all the time that handle many functions that TP does, including power file analysis. One I know of in particular will be launching in the very near future, which does all that plus will be a lot less deniro...

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Rocky M] [ In reply to ]

Nov 2, 14 18:18

Post #83 of 121 Views: 3686

Hmmm...I'll be damned. Opened a ticket (Sunday)...sent it to TP. Their ears must've been burning or they actually learned from TP 3.0 & put something in place, or heard about the gripes on forums about issues here...because I got an email back from Frank Pipp at TP within probably an hour of submitting a ticket to them. Good on them then!

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rmt] [ In reply to ]

Nov 3, 14 10:36

Post #84 of 121 Views: 3597

If you export a TCX file from Polar Flow and upload that it should be calculating rTSS. If you are exporting an XML file from Polar Fitness (I think that is what it is called) that won't work.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 4, 14 14:06

Post #85 of 121 Views: 3522

Thanks for your help.I export the run as an .hrm file from Polar Protrainer 5. It has always uploaded fine, into both Beta and Classic. About 2 months ago it stopped loading as a run file into Beta, but instead would revert to 'Untitled Exercise' and calculate TSS based off HR. However, if I delete the exercise, go into Classic and upload it there it uploads fine as a run file, and shows me rTSS. Not the end of the world, but frustrating. It would become the end of the world if Classic was phased out and I therefore couldn't upload run files. Well, maybe not the end of the world, but the end of my relationship with Training Peaks, which would be a shame as I like it!

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 4, 14 18:22

Post #86 of 121 Views: 3486

Is the Web app part of the beta release? The ability to review basically all my metrics from the quick app is worth the $$ alone. Maybe I'm just easily entertained

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [mvenneta] [ In reply to ]

Nov 4, 14 18:46

Post #87 of 121 Views: 3474

The web app is/was the beta. The mobile apps are not in beta.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 5, 14 14:48

Post #88 of 121 Views: 3392

In the new trainingpeaks is it possible to export all the data to a CSV or any local file? This option is available in the classic but I can't seem to find it in beta.

Iain

Training Full Time in 2015: http://www.triopensource.com
http://www.facebook.com/iaingillamracing http://www.twitter.com/iaingillam
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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Iain Gillam] [ In reply to ]

Nov 5, 14 17:46

Post #89 of 121 Views: 3366

Iain Gillam wrote:

In the new trainingpeaks is it possible to export all the data to a CSV or any local file? This option is available in the classic but I can't seem to find it in beta.

Iain

You need to access the Classic version to export your data. Simply click on your name when logged in and select Switch To Classic and it will take you there.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 5:09

Post #90 of 121 Views: 3319

Anyone else seen this issue using Chrome on a Mac? The calendar is all the way to the right. It doesn't happen using Safari. Also works fine using Chrome on a PC.

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Last edited by: BionicMan: Nov 6, 14 5:10

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [BionicMan] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 5:39

Post #91 of 121 Views: 3302

That's interesting. Is that an odd shaped screen capture or a really wide screen? Regardless I'd contact them.

http://help.trainingpeaks.com/anonymous_requests/new

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 6:23

Post #92 of 121 Views: 3286

rbuike wrote:

That's interesting. Is that an odd shaped screen capture or a really wide screen? Regardless I'd contact them.

http://help.trainingpeaks.com/anonymous_requests/new

It's really wide. That's the problem. The actual calendar part is completely right off the right edge of where it should normally be. I'll contact support. Just thought I'd ask here first.

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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 9:03

Post #93 of 121 Views: 3259

rbuike wrote:

That's interesting. Is that an odd shaped screen capture or a really wide screen? Regardless I'd contact them.

http://help.trainingpeaks.com/anonymous_requests/new

Support responded pretty quick. For some reason my Chrome wasn't updating. Got that fixed and the latest version works.

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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 9:34

Post #94 of 121 Views: 3242

Hi Rodney

I classic view I can have a separate dashboard for S, B and R. I don't seem to be able to do this in the new app. Is this functionality no longer available ?

thanks

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [marcag] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 9:42

Post #95 of 121 Views: 3237

You can have separate charts for all types of activities. Drag the chart type into the dashboard and then click the three horizontal lines in the top right corner to adjust the parameters for the chart.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 10:27

Post #96 of 121 Views: 3228

rbuike wrote:

You can have separate charts for all types of activities. Drag the chart type into the dashboard and then click the three horizontal lines in the top right corner to adjust the parameters for the chart.

thanks, that is what I was doing. But in the classic version you could have one page with swim, one with bike, one with run rather than one big page with them all even if each chart is separate.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [marcag] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 10:37

Post #97 of 121 Views: 3217

Gotcha! I know additional calendars are on the roadmap but I'm not sure about additional dashboards but I'll try and find out.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 10:47

Post #98 of 121 Views: 3210

Do you know if the ability to import a plan is in the works ? I mean for a self coached athlete not wanting to buy a TP plan.
Dragging and dropping one workout at a time is a PITA.
Import of a CSV file would be great.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [marcag] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 10:53

Post #99 of 121 Views: 3205

Nothing that I know of. You can create a week and then copy and paste the week over and over and then just make edits to time/efforts. Or create the workouts and save them in your workout library and drag and drop them.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 14:21

Post #100 of 121 Views: 3169

So how do I use ATP now to create a training plan. It doesn't seem to exist in the new version. When I try and revert back to Classic - it simply opens a new window with the new version in.

Also being unable to select equipment choice in the mobile app is just, well, baffling.

Stuart

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [studuck] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 14:26

Post #101 of 121 Views: 4217

To access the Classic app you have to login, click on your name and select Switch to Classic. I'll find out about the equipment tracking in the mobile app.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 14:32

Post #102 of 121 Views: 4214

Rodney - that is exactly what I have been doing - but the new window that opens, opens up in the new view

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 14:35

Post #103 of 121 Views: 4208

rbuike wrote:

Iain Gillam wrote:

In the new trainingpeaks is it possible to export all the data to a CSV or any local file? This option is available in the classic but I can't seem to find it in beta.

Iain

You need to access the Classic version to export your data. Simply click on your name when logged in and select Switch To Classic and it will take you there.

Unable to get it to go to Classic. Returns to the new ap. How to get to past data??

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [studuck] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 14:36

Post #104 of 121 Views: 4207

Interesting, it shouldn't and doesn't on my two machines. Three steps to try to resolve...

- Make sure browser is up to date
- Clear cookies

If that doesn't work contact support because that definitely should not be happening.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [SpeedyChix] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 15:14

Post #105 of 121 Views: 4199

I've just confirmed it is an issue with cookies. Clear your browser cache and cookies.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [studuck] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 15:19

Post #106 of 121 Views: 4196

Equipment tracking in the mobile app is on the short list - https://peaksware.uservoice.com/...bscriber-for-a-numbe

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [marcag] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 15:21

Post #107 of 121 Views: 4195

marcag wrote:

Hi Rodney

I classic view I can have a separate dashboard for S, B and R. I don't seem to be able to do this in the new app. Is this functionality no longer available ?

thanks

Multiple dashboards has now been officially requested. https://peaksware.uservoice.com/...-multiple-dashboards

Feel free to leave comments on the request or add your vote at that URL

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 6, 14 15:34

Post #108 of 121 Views: 4189

rbuike wrote:

I've just confirmed it is an issue with cookies. Clear your browser cache and cookies.

That was it.
Thanks.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 7, 14 0:06

Post #109 of 121 Views: 4163

Hi Rodney - problem solved.

I simply logged out, logged back in then clicked on Classic view and it worked

Thanks for your help

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 8, 14 10:41

Post #110 of 121 Views: 4102

Thanks for that, is this a feature that will be migrated onto beta?

Iain

Training Full Time in 2015: http://www.triopensource.com
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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [Iain Gillam] [ In reply to ]

Nov 8, 14 12:47

Post #111 of 121 Views: 4091

Yes, all Classic features will be migrated or replaced with equivalent functionality

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
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Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 8, 14 14:55

Post #112 of 121 Views: 4075

rbuike wrote:

Yes, all Classic features will be migrated or replaced with equivalent functionality

Can you enter an "excercise" like you can in classic

I would create a swim workout, go to the excercise tab, add a step, enter 20 x 100 in 90 seconds at 90 sec/100m and it would calculate a TSS for the workout, distance....

I don't seem to be able to do that in the app.

thanks

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [marcag] [ In reply to ]

Nov 8, 14 15:27

Post #113 of 121 Views: 4074

Yes, that all works the same :). For swim as long as you enter time and distance it will calculate sTSS. You can make notes on what the intervals were but you don't need to make an exercise

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 8, 14 17:53

Post #114 of 121 Views: 4058

Rodney,

I uploaded 4 different runs from my 910 but i can't get my 800 bike session loaded that i did today. It was just under 4 hours, I'm not sure but I think there was an issue with larger files and the new TP version.

It reads "an error occurred while uploading your session." or something like that. I tried it four times. Any ideas? sorry if this was covered in a different thread or post.

Thanks,

Hugh

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [humanator] [ In reply to ]

Nov 8, 14 18:04

Post #115 of 121 Views: 4053

I thought it was too but can't find the original error submission. Can you submit it here http://help.trainingpeaks.com/anonymous_requests/new

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 9, 14 10:53

Post #116 of 121 Views: 4004

rbuike wrote:

Yes, all Classic features will be migrated or replaced with equivalent functionality

If you are nothing to do with TrainingPeaks why do you keep posting in such a manner?

Are you employed or sponsored by TrainingPeaks or are you pretending to represent them in some way?

I note you claim not to be employed by TrainingPeaks so please explain why you post on their behalf.

Last edited by: William Ockham: Nov 9, 14 11:02

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 9, 14 11:09

Post #117 of 121 Views: 3997

rbuike wrote:

I thought it was too but can't find the original error submission. Can you submit it here http://help.trainingpeaks.com/anonymous_requests/new

Tried to merge my wired PT data with my 910 file and it deleted the original file rather than merging it. Did I miss something? I didn't have the option to merge, just upload.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Nov 9, 14 12:41

Post #118 of 121 Views: 3981

Can I ask the steps you took to upload?

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [rbuike] [ In reply to ]

Nov 9, 14 12:49

Post #119 of 121 Views: 3976

synced the garmin file via connect and then uploaded the powertap file. The merge option wasn't even offered.

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Nov 9, 14 12:55

Post #120 of 121 Views: 3973

Thanks, I'll look into this.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

Re: TrainingPeaks is moving out of Beta [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Nov 10, 14 10:34

Post #121 of 121 Views: 3886

racin_rusty wrote:

synced the garmin file via connect and then uploaded the powertap file. The merge option wasn't even offered.

If the merge option wasn't listed there could be something within the files causing that (time discrepancy for example). Device Agent is much more robust with merging files and will fix a lot of those issues.

Rodney
TrainingPeaks | Altra Running | RAD Roller
http://www.goinglong.ca

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