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Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap?
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Hey guys just wanted to see how others feel about the goggle over or under swim cap debate. I'm leaning towards under as the swim portion of races I've heard can get a bit hairy at time. Figured the extra tension surrounding them will help keep them in place. That being said I've been watching Kona races of old (2011, 2012, 2013) and notice that most of the professional field have them on top of their caps.

What is the ST opinion on this? Is it more of a personal preference or are their pros/cons to each approach I'm not considering?

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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For training, over. For races, under.

In races, it also helps peel the cap off easily.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [brider] [ In reply to ]
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I'm concerned that it will be harder to clear and adjust me goggles if under my cap.


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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [motoguy128] [ In reply to ]
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motoguy128 wrote:
I'm concerned that it will be harder to clear and adjust me goggles if under my cap.

Never had a problem with it.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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cshowe80 wrote:
Is it more of a personal preference or are their pros/cons to each approach I'm not considering?

Yes, and yes. There are pros/cons to each style, and it comes down to personal preference.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [brider] [ In reply to ]
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brider wrote:
For training, over. For races, under.

In races, it also helps peel the cap off easily.

x2 but I also train some with them under the cap just to get a feel for race day



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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [brider] [ In reply to ]
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I always put them under that cap. I have heard stories about people having their caps ripped off their heads during races, thus if you have your goggles over the cap, say goodbye to them. If you have the goggles under the cap and your lose it, at least your goggles have a decent chances of staying on your head.

As for keeping them clean, never had a problem either. Good luck!

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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I should add the reason I go under the cap for races ....I feel that it is less likely to get them knocked off



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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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I always swim with goggles under cap. The grip of the cap helps the strap stay put, and it feels more secure. Never had a problem adjusting them, which isn't very often with swedes and Nootca goggles.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [brider] [ In reply to ]
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brider wrote:
For training, over. For races, under.

In races, it also helps peel the cap off easily.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [brider] [ In reply to ]
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brider wrote:
For training, over. For races, under.

In races, it also helps peel the cap off easily.

Huh, this is the exact same reason I put the goggles over my cap for races. I can peel both cap and goggles at the same time with 1 hand while the goggles are magically stored inside the cap.






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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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I train with goggles over cap. Race with my goggles under, with hopes that I am less likely to lose my goggles.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [roacher78] [ In reply to ]
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roacher78 wrote:
brider wrote:
For training, over. For races, under.

In races, it also helps peel the cap off easily.


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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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under. my goggle straps don't stay in place if they are over.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [brider] [ In reply to ]
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I watched a swim competition on TV the other day. Why did some of the olympic/college swimmers wear 2 caps, goggles in between the caps?
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Under. Used to where them over and had them knocked off my face in a race. Never again.
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [mercuryvapor] [ In reply to ]
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Does anybody wear silicone dome caps to their races? I was planning on wearing one beneath my latex event cap as I'm not partial to how latex caps feel. Is this a good idea or will it just add to the time in transition?

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [jwadtri] [ In reply to ]
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jwadtri wrote:
I always put them under that cap. I have heard stories about people having their caps ripped off their heads during races, thus if you have your goggles over the cap, say goodbye to them. If you have the goggles under the cap and your lose it, at least your goggles have a decent chances of staying on your head.

As for keeping them clean, never had a problem either. Good luck!

Most of the time they get "Ripped" off or "accidentally" fall off it is in warm water and "losing" the cap provides a significant cooling benefit! :)

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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I find the opposite - goggle straps slide down over my hair, but the cap is more sticky and keeps them in place. Sometimes (especially if cold) I wear two caps in races, then the goggle strap goes over the first one, and under the 2nd.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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I used to always wear over until i lost my goggles during warm up at race in Santa Cruz. Thought i was being cool surfing in a wave and instead got pummled and lost them. Did the whole (ocean) swim with no goggles and by time i finished i was sure the fog had come in...but alas it was just my eyes totally bloodshot from the salt water. For ocean or rough swims i put them under the cap even if it is a pain.
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Under. Anything that'll help, even if it's small, prevent them from getting pulled off in a race.. I can't imagine locating them in the mess of people.
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [mercuryvapor] [ In reply to ]
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mercuryvapor wrote:
I watched a swim competition on TV the other day. Why did some of the olympic/college swimmers wear 2 caps, goggles in between the caps?

I am guessing it is for speed….a smooth swim cap or a swim cap with goggles over it. Yes, very little drag from goggle straps….but those races are so darn close, I bet that is the reason. I may be wrong…that's just my guess. I would be interested to know the drag factor if this is the reason.
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Over. 50+ races including mass starts, never lost them

ETA - are people really having issues getting their cap/goggles off? I have lots of T1 issues, that's never been one of them
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [mercuryvapor] [ In reply to ]
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Pool swimmers at top-level competitions layer two caps: latex over the hair, goggles, then a silicon cap or dome cap over that. Two caps help smooth out the wrinkles; they protect the goggle straps, and caps stay on better when two are layered.

Layering with the latex cap under gives the silicon cap something to grip on. Most people who have worn silicon caps alone know those are prone to slipping.

Additional benefits are that a latex layer helps smooth out the wrinkles so the silicon cap on top is smoother.

Almost all tri- and open-water race caps are latex. A swimmer can still get lots of wrinkle-smoothing and strap protection if two latex caps are layered.
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Gotta go under...looks pro

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [cshowe80] [ In reply to ]
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Personal preference...I wear my over my cap unless I'm diving in.

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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]
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ChrisM wrote:
ETA - are people really having issues getting their cap/goggles off? I have lots of T1 issues, that's never been one of them

^this
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Re: Goggles Over/Under Swim Cap? [CreepingDeath] [ In reply to ]
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I generally don't use a cap in the pool, except some races.
In the ocean, googles over cap.

One reason you often see pool competitors with a cap over goggle strap is to keep the straps on during the dive.
Shouldn't be a problem with a good dive and good fit.
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